Did I know where the Novell short file name behavior came from?

Commenter Yuhong Bao asks, "Do you know that the Novell behavior described in "Not all short filenames contain a tilde" came from HPFS?"

Yes, but it was not relevant to the discussion so I didn't bother mentioning it. Going into more detail on the history of the Novell "long namespace" would just encourage people to conclude, "This problem affects only Novell, and since I don't use Novell, I don't have to worry about this."

Comments (11)
  1. Sven says:

    Your links to comments are still broken.

  2. gibwar says:

    @Sven: Yes, they are. This entry was probably written before the blog upgrade. It's not like he has any magical control over the blog system and lack of a comment anchor. In fact, if you look at the source there isn't even an anchor for your comment so even yours can't be linked.

  3. dalek says:

    hey gibwar, although we know Raymond cannot do anything about his blog software, sven is right: the links to comments are still broken and this is annoying. One might expect blog software to support links to comments these days!

    [Not sure what you want me to do about it. Should I just stop responding to comments until the problem is fixed? -Raymond]
  4. Yuhong Bao says:

    For example, more irrelevant chatter deleted.

    [Apparently Yuhong doesn't realize that I was telling him to stop making irrelevant comments. -Raymond]
  5. Marquess says:

    The makers of the blog software obviously don't read Raymond's blog, or they would know about backwards compatibility.

  6. @Marquess: If they read this blog, their software would at least be backwards-compatible with it.

  7. Cheong says:

    Oh, I thought topics which you don't want to write about would be responded by an entry in a grouped reply.

    Anyway, given Novell's such a product tightly built around DOS/Windows as a file server or even logon control, it doesn't harm if you have something interesting/little known to share.

  8. dalek says:

    @Raymond: I was not trying to get you to do anything, I was trying to make clear to gibwar that sven has a valid complaint. Thanks for all the interesting posts!

  9. JoeWoodbury says:

    I don't know where Yuhong Bao got his information, but it isn't correct. The Novell LONG name terminology came about long (ha ha) before Windows 95. I know, because I worked on the client APIs at Novell in 1991-1993. I have a vague memory that how NetWare treated long file names was NOT derived from HPFS and was later modified to have the same behavior as HPFS.

  10. Ray Trent says:

    Raymond… please don't feed the trolls. They're like gremlins in swimming pools.

  11. Yuhong Bao says:

    "The Novell LONG name terminology came about long (ha ha) before Windows 95."

    Yes, I know that. In fact, I know what it was originally called.

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