Jay from the Windows Mobile team is working on a Picture Frame…

Jay Ongg from the Windows Mobile team is also working on a Picture Frame project, it looks like this is based on an old laptop, since Jay is totally into .NET Compact Framework development I wouldn't be surprised if the application is a managed app...

I'm hoping to have the XML Web Services Compact Framework application finished and tested today - for some reason I couldn't connect to my laptop from the reference board yesterday - IIS was up and running, I could ping both directions, very strange...

- Mike


Comments (20)

  1. DAddYE says:

    Compliment from Italy!!!

    It’s beautiful



  2. Mike says:

    Hi Italy !! – welcome to the eMbedded Blog.

    – Mike

  3. DAddYE says:

    I Come from Milan a view all tutorial of the community and I’m very interesting in windows embedded and ecos, but winxpe it’s so beautiful…

    I’m 20 years old and I love U.S.A

    Microsoft it’s the best…

    Hi to ALL!

  4. Mike says:

    Milan is a beautiful place – I’ve presented at TechEd Europe in Nice (south of France) and have travelled into Italy – it’s a really nice area, the weather is great, the food is fantastic, and the people were welcoming.

    Let me know if there’s anything you want to see on the Blog about Windows CE or Windows XP Embedded.

    – Mike

  5. DAddYE says:

    If you still come in Italy informs me at least we meet ourselves, however I am testing windows embedded in vmware but I’ve some problems, I also tested in in virtual PC and are OK. Moreover the Target Analizer the TA.EXE truly works on all DOS? Because I have tried it in a machine but it has given error to me. Later I retry and at the limit place the problem.

    Thanks of all, you are fantastic

  6. Mike says:


    I’ve run TA.EXE from MS-DOS and this worked just fine, I’ve also installed Windows XP into Virtual PC and have captured a .PMQ file based on the Virtual PC hardware, let me know if you would like a copy of the PMQ and/or SLD file for Virtual PC, I can get this posted to my blog or e-mail to you if you provide your e-mail address.

    – Mike

  7. James Risto says:

    Ok this has got me revved up on my "compute anywhere" mini-hobby. My goal; never use a laptop. Travel with a USB device that I can plug into any computer and run my OS, my apps, my data. Am I dreaming? There are PC’s all over, just not what I need on their HD’s … including OS. Drilling down … since USB boot is nowhere near universal, I can accept a floppy+USB solution in the meantime, and/or CD+USB. Can this be done? Does it have to be CE since no HD? Can CE run auto-detect each bootup?

  8. Mike says:

    how would you see this working? – you would be able to use any computer anywhere and still get access to your data that lives on a home PC or in the white fluffy cloud known as the internet ? – what value would the USB Boot key bring to the mobile worker ?

    – Mike

  9. James Risto says:

    Thanks for responding. For data, I think we live that problem today … unless I remember to tote my “last night’s work” back and forth, I don’t have it. Knee-jerk answer is that everything is on the USB fob. Future-think, perhaps web service vaults. First step idea is to have OS, browser, email and perhaps Pocket apps on the fob so I have my workspace plus light data needs on today’s 256MB fob. For your question about the mobile worker, can we classify mobile workers into two categories; image-enabled and processor-enabled. Image enabled are the fob carriers who do not require mobile processing except at “kiosks” … and not just café’s, but father-in-law’s PC, aunt’s, diskless PC at home, etc. Processor-enabled have a processor on them of some sort. Now, I know the minute we classify anyone, they want features of both. My vision is twofold; to enable the light mobile person (selfish … myself who can’t stand the cost of a laptop nor the weight on the bus) and to perhaps enable basic affordable computing to the masses who can only afford to borrow an network edge node on occasion.

  10. Mike says:

    Why not extend this further and simply have everything living in the cloud – perhaps you don’t need the fob at all. Here’s something that’s been bugging me for a while, I have multiple PC’s, 4 in my office, my laptop, my Media Center, a couple of other PC’s, XBOX’s (yes, I have three at home), Pocket PC’s, Smartphone – what do all these devices have in common ? – I can store documents, music, video on all the devices – BUT, having "MY" content available to me on the device I’m using at the time is a problem.

    Take the following scenario – I check into a hotel, let’s say I’m in Tokyo, my favorite TV show is not going to be showing, but is being recorded on my Media Center PC at home, also, all of my CD’s are ripped onto the Media Center – I’ve purchased the music, I have the physical CD’s sat at home, so why can’t I listen to the music or watch my TV shows in Tokyo.

    As data pipes become fatter and mobile data rates get more in line with fixed wire connections then I can see that moving to a secure Web Service based world will make sense, sure I have my local applications on the PC I’m using in the internet Cafe or on my hand-held mobile device and these can pull the data from the internet cloud so I can watch my programs, listen to my music, edit my documents etc…

    Do we need a dongle for this? – I’m not so sure that we do – right now USB Disk on Key seems to be a reasonable replacement for the Web Service paradigm, this gives me the ability to carry the data I need (or at least some of it) – plus, right now, having my laptop with me when I’m on the bus, train, or aircraft makes total sense – I can happily write code, edit documents etc… the only limitation is the amount of power I have available on the laptop.

    my 2 cents…

    – Mike

  11. James Risto says:

    Don’t know if you wanted this thread to go on or not … I will let you decide if you want to kill it.

    I see your situation, and I know lots of others in similar. It’s kind of the scale-out model of having more and more nodes, but data is scattered. Perhaps cloud-based data and more bandwidth will come for this. Problem is, local network speeds rise just as fast so WAN always looks slow. People also want their data on their persons.

    My focus is the scale-up model. I want to do more will less … less hardware and less image-software-stacks to maintain. Funny you mentioned Xbox … my private dream is if the rich could issue Xbox’s to computing centers throughout the world … folks would come up with their dongle and up comes their environment. One can still do web and email with dial speeds, either modems or such heavy usage of high speed that dial speed is what you are left with.

    I know, a gaming console? But I don’t see it as that … I see it as a low cost, stable, deployed, known environment. No need for extensive hw detection. Sure, consoles loose money and games make it back up, but the vendor would have a cut of the “Xbox Internet Access Disc” just like they have of games. Perhaps you can tell I am not a gamer … I look at my Xbox and see wasted potential of an excellent device.

    Anyway, I am off in the weeds. Maybe I will get that CE eval kit and see if I can do it myself.

  12. Mike says:

    There’s a group working on getting Windows CE up and running on the XBOX hardware, check the following – http://xbox-windows.org/

    There’s certainly a trend moving towards having your data with you in mobile scenarios – I have my calendar on my SPOT watch, I have my e-mail on my PocketPC Phone Edition. With GPRS access from my Pocket PC I have enough bandwidth to sync my e-mail, check for blog comments, browse the web etc… ok, so the experience isn’t as good as being on a 100MBit Ethernet connection, but it’s good enough.

    I also have my Laptop for high bandwith access, we’re starting to see more WiFi hotspots becoming available, places like Starbucks, McDonalds and even the shopping mall close to Microsoft (the Crossroads) – the internet connection is provided free of charge by the Library service.

    The form factor might not always be ideal, the laptop is too big to carry around at all times, the Pocket PC is perhaps too small to be used for much data entry (not everyone wants to use a touch screen or thumbpad) – perhaps super small "Pocketable" PC devices would be the ideal – devices like the OQO – http://www.oqo.com/

    I don’t think there’s just one device that covers all my needs, which is why I have a desktop PC in my office for O/S and code development, a laptop (Tablet) for when I’m mobile (like now), a Pocket PC for when I’m super mobile, and a SPOT watch for when I want a glancable UI (ideal for looking at the building and office number when you’re late for a meeting).

    And that’s ok for the techies, but what about everyone else? – Some of my friends only need e-mail and limited internet access, so a device like the MSN TV box – http://www.msntv.com/pc/default.aspx may be sufficient, in other cases limited access to data may be appropriate, in which case internet cafe’s or even home e-mail telephones may be ok – http://www.amstrad.co.uk/emailer_plus.html

    There are multiple device choices available, I like many probably need to use a mixture of devices because one doesn’t suit all my needs.

    – Mike

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