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But it doesn't give you direction, whereas acceleration is a vector quantity

Jack I believe the direction is given by v, because it is also a vector. This equation can be rewritten vector component wise.

plz make this more easier .i does not understand this .

Express in a easy way. With out using vectors notation.

nothing special

where did you get sin(dtheta/2)?

We need linear velocity and the radius for solving… And we know that sin angle is equal to opp side upon hypotenuse…

@Daniel

I got sin(Δθ/2) = (Δv/2)/v as follows.

Look at the right-hand side of the figure diagram; it's a triangle with two red arrows and a green arrow. There's a black line from the place where the two red arrows meet, to the midpoint of the green arrow.

There's a right triangle made up of the top red arrow, the top half of the green arrow, and the black line.

The hypotenuse of this right triangle is v. The side made up by half of the green arrow is Δv/2. The angle opposite the green side is Δθ/2.

sin = opposite/hypotenuse, so sin(Δθ/2) = (Δv/2)/v.

thnqu very Much…….Now I UNDERSTOOD this derivation

Bro derivation is as we know delta v is equals to 2v sin(theata/2).

what is the difference between the third and fourth step of the one above?

I meant fourth and fifth

Taking the limit of delta v /delta theta,

It becomes the derivative. The limit is indeterminate 0/0 which is where you need l hopital rule take the quotient of the derivatives of the limit.

Oh I see it now, thank you for the explanation [MSFT].

Can't get it,s0 tense ab0ut this and just g0nna cry :-(

thats nice

mr msft can you please explain 5line of the second derivation

sin (Δθ/2) and Δθ/2 both tend to 0 as Δθ tends to 0, so we have the indeterminate form 0/0.

We can use l'Hôpital's rule; take the derivative of the top and the bottom with respect to Δθ.

Top: (sin (Δθ/2))' = (cos (Δθ/2))((Δθ/2)') = (cos (Δθ/2))(1/2). This tends to 1/2.

Bottom: (Δθ/2)' = 1/2. This tends to 1/2.

thanks

it could be made much more easier without using trigonometry in it….

from sin delta theta/2 =deltaV/2 hw did deltaV become 2V sindeltatheta/2

from sin delta theta/2 =deltaV/2 hw did deltaV become 2V sindeltatheta/2

from sin delta theta/2 =deltaV/2 hw did deltaV become 2V sindeltatheta/2

i gets the lesson of my teacher

very good but i can't understand anything in the formula!

Nicely done thank you Maurits , this is the simplest way to derive the centripetal acceleration

bakwaas hai

Oh finaly I got it .. thx a ton

There's a far simpler derivation than this. Draw the circle with the two velocity vectors separated by a tiny angle. Draw a vector diagram that shows that dv = vdq. Divide both sides by dt, then a = vw.=v2/r.

It's a beautiful proof :)

wow

complicated ….

i have not understand the third stage????

Mr Maurits u have explained it super …..love ur w

ay man its very nice no use of those shitty components simple……. thnx man

Mr Maurits u have explained it super love ur way simple and easy the best part u have done is that u have avoided the use of those components that confuse..can I use this method all this I hopitals rule for an 11 the class exam?

Make it a bit simpler,please!

For the limit as delta theta [D0] approaches O of v*sin(D0/2)/D0/2, can't the sine component be thought of as its infinite series too, with (x – x^3/3! + x^5/5! +…)/x = 1 – x^2/3! + x^4/5! +…, so as x approaches O, or D0 does so, the series approaches 1; making the initial equation = v*1 = v

I came here trying to understand the underlying mathematics, it's just when someone uses someone else's theorems or whatever in their derivation, I then spend forever trying to understand the utilised theorems and end up on an infinite search for understanding. The infinite series method just helped me jump one of those hurdles — and I'm hoping it helps someone else like minded :P

Yes, that is sensible.

Nice style

Easiest one

coud you please explain me what is i'hopital's rule?

Its soo difficult to understand…..

Not understanding

Two bodies of masses 10kg and 5kg movingvin concentric orbits of radii R and r such that their periods are same. Then the ratio between their centripetal accelerations is:

(a) R/r

(b)r/R

(c)R^2/r^2

(d)r^2/R^2

plz help me give me the solution of this question

Ikram the answer is (a).No need of mass.Just calculate v^2/r of 5kg body in terms of R and v of 10kg body.

fabulous explanation

Thank you for posting a simple and easy to understand mathematical derivation of the equations. I had to google this and the first 4 links weren’t helpful. You were the 5th link. Also thanks for posting the note Re: L’Hopital’s rule. I did not get that step until I saw your note. PERFECT!

Hey bro is it easy??? Then u make it more easy for us

Hard to understand. Very lengthy derivation. Please shorten and post.

Hard to understand. Very lengthy derivation. Please shorten and post..

Its very difficult plzz try to explain it in a easiest way😦

Can’t undrstand plzz try to explain in easist way😦

It is too much lengthy and difficult to understand sir

Good helpful, but please mention mathematically

Learning about oscillators and I haven’t seen this proof for a few years. thanks for putting it up.

People are saying it’s confusing. i agree there are some parts that are kinda glossed over.

First, the two velocity vectors on the right side are the velocities at different times. You can imagine how on the left side you could have an entire circle with a v vector on every point of the circumference extending tangent to the surface. Using this idea that the tangent v we are thinking of would trace out the circle that the object follows over one period, we can see delta theta is the same because of symmetry / the geometry of the circles is the same.

Second, there is the l’hopital’s rule part. Basically, provided some conditions are met, the limit of a ratio of functions at a point is the same as the limit of the ratio of their derivatives at that point. The four lines on the wikipedia page explain it. For the top you take out dtheta/2 and change sin to cos and on the bottom dtheta/2 becomes 1/2. He also canceled dtheta

Also, the last line is the chain rule. If you don’t get stuff, just look it up!

thanks for your explaination i have enjoyed it but simplify it for easy understanding as not all are fast learners!!!

I think you don’t need to derive dv/dθ. Because v doesn’t change with angle θ. Its quantity stays the same. It’s always v. I think you don’t need to derive it.

can u make more easy..its very complicated..

I teach non calculus physics. Here is a link to how we derive it. We use similar triangles and ratios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3Ayk2EswA

FIrst things first,

s=v dt, this is only when v is speed.(While v here is velocity)(speed is not equal to velocity).!!!

Second in the triangle where did u suddenly get dv between the 2 sides represented by v. ????

Hope this helps.

a and v represent the magnitude of the vectors because they do not have arrows on top. Wish this was taught more often in physics

it’s a very simple and nice way to find the centripetal acceleration

You can derive it even more easily as given in the book Resnick And Halliday.

You can derive it as in resnick and halliday

its easy but explain it in a clear way with more diagrams

I still don’t get why we write v2 in the formula

sin (Δθ/2) = (Δv/2)/v

Multiply both sides by v

v sin (Δθ/2) = Δv/2

Multiply both sides by 2

2v sin (Δθ/2) = Δv

Thank u

Why does derivative of dtheta over 2 in 1

Please make it understable for a student of 9th class.

Thank you, this is awesome! Concise and helpful.

What does d mean??

This so tuff for this expression so time to take study