First Wave of Localized IE7 Releases Now Available


We have released  Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP in five new languages:  German, Japanese, French, Spanish, and Finnish. You can download these today from the IE website.

As with the English version, we’re making the localized downloads available a few weeks ahead of distribution via Automatic Updates. German, French, Spanish and Finnish users should be prepared for AU distribution by mid-November. Japanese AU distribution will begin this spring.

We will release additional languages as they are ready over the next few months. I talked about the details on all the versions, MUI packs, and Language Interface Packs in this earlier post.

Tony Chor
Group Program Manager

Comments (162)

  1. David Wrixon says:

    What the hell is going on? A three month delay for Japanese. You cannot be serious?

  2. Aedrin says:

    That is for the AU release. You can already download it.

  3. rob field says:

    The amount of people with problems after installing IE7 in the IE discussion forum at http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?pg=1&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&fltr= is enough to put me off installing IE7

    I think I’ll wait a few months for other people to iron out all the issues rather than feeling, once again, like an MS guinea pig…

  4. David Wrixon says:

    Yes, but there is a huge difference between not being to navigate in your own language and have little picky preference about this and that. The lack of language support in the address is and has been holding up economic development in Asia for several years and now apparently it ongoing. There is no real technical difference between issue Auto Updates in Japanese and doing it French or German. And it is not just Japanese that is required either!

    What it all means is that whilst Bill continues to play the philanthropist, millions are suffering deprevation and poverty because Microsoft continues to abuse its Monopoly position in the browser market.

  5. Jeff says:

    "What it all means is that whilst Bill continues to play the philanthropist, millions are suffering deprevation and poverty because Microsoft continues to abuse its Monopoly position in the browser market."

    ROFL.

  6. I feel bad I have been such a pest you guys.  I really do prefer IE7 to FireFox after using it for the last few days.  I apologize for all the trouble I have caused in these forums.

    The Microsoft way is clearly the best way and we should not forget it.

  7. Ray says:

    Language support would probably be a while lot better in IE7 *if* the IE team were to of actually used the language capabilities of modern programming languages.

    .NET for instance allows you to have a location where the program looks for language .XML files, and when you choose one of those language files the whole GUI takes notice and rewrites it’s menus and other things to use the new language.

    It’s not hard to implement, in fact it’s dead simple, and nothing in the GUI should be hardcoded to a specific language, since that means rewriting of code, it should all be in language files.

  8. Martin says:

    I should have known not to trust Microsoft on their Windows Update to IE7.  I updated to it, and immediately upon restart my system went crazy with only a partial Windows start and no IE.  After hours of work, I finally had to reinstall the Windows XP Professional completely and go back to IE6.  I’m going to tell everyone I can to avoid IE7 for a while.  These issues are why people hate Microsoft sometimes.

  9. Baowoulf says:

    Did you have any antivirus software running at all?

    I installed it from Microsoft Update with Norton Internet Security 2004 running with no problem. Forgot to turn it off.

    After restart it froze up on me so all I could do was restart but after the second restart it’s been clear sailing.

  10. I’m a japanease toy maker’s software engineer.

    Thank you for IE7.

    It’s great.

    But…

    Automatic update was postponed.

    As a rsult.

    The period will be long, that we check our products and Web pages on old IE6.

  11. Arieta says:

    Will these localized version have the recent security issues patched? there are already 3 or so out in secunia, and IE7 is out since ONE FULL WEEK.

  12. hAl says:

    I asume that it is probably planned to launch all asian versions in spring or something ?

  13. Rogi says:

    I have installed Internet Explorer 7 in Spanish. The characters with written accents aren’t shown correctly in Print Preview window. For example, "2 Page View" string in Spanish is "Vista de 2 páginas", but it’s shown as "Vista de 2 páginas".

  14. Huh? says:

    David Wrixton:

    "What it all means is that whilst Bill continues to play the philanthropist, millions are suffering deprevation and poverty because Microsoft continues to abuse its Monopoly position in the browser market."

    Putting aside that Bill is phasing himself out, how does that work? People can’t use a browser online and get themselves medication? People can’t use their browser online and look up diseases they’re suffering from? Can’t look up developments that would rise them out of poverty?

    I’m not saying it’s not a serious issue, but the way you rant it sounds just as insane as handing a starving poverty stricken child a hundred dollar laptop and saying "Your life has been saved."

    Sense. Make it!

  15. AC says:

    Rob Field:

    The amount of people with problems after installing Firefox in the Firefox discussion forum at http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38&sid=d1791bdda19826c478eac48c4f113935 is enough to put me off installing Firefox

    I think I’ll wait a few months for other people to iron out all the issues rather than feeling, once again, like a Mozilla guinea pig…

  16. Huh? says:

    David Wrixon:

    I’m a realistic thinker, not full of suppositions and melodrama. Your perspective consists of one variable when in fact there are many that contribute to what your overall analysis should look like.

    You just claimed it’s the software browser monopoly that is the reason "that millions are suffering deprevation and poverty". Those in poverty are not worried about software browsers. They want basic necessities first. Then infrastructure to actually access the browser.

    And regarding navigating in Chinese characters: I would LOVE it. It’s a difficult language to know as it is. That’s free immersion. That’s an excellent reason we have MUI support packs at all.

  17. TS says:

    I just wanted let people know regarding the delay of Auto Updates for Japanese IE7. It has nothing to do with economic development in the entire Asia or technical difficulties of IE7 itself. The real reason is that, according to surveys by Microsoft, a lot of Japanese business users wanted to wait for IE7 for six months to be distributed via Auto Updates so that they could avoid possible technical conflicts between their existing systems and IE7 despite Blocker Toolkit. I mean those business users wanted some window period.

    This does not mean that Japanese have to wait to download and install Japanese IE7 until April or May, 2007. Those who want to use it can manually download its final version already.

  18. Huh? says:

    David Wrixon:

    Before the advent of the net the world was already skewed. And again you’re just using one variable in having countries pounded into the dirt economically. There are many, many factors that contribute to poverty. I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be internationalization. Maybe if there were more cooperation there would be, and by saying that I’m not saying the US is to blame. The US does not rule the internet (we merely keep the name servers).

    I am only commenting on your particular comment: "millions are suffering deprevation and poverty because Microsoft continues to abuse its Monopoly position in the browser market."

    That in itself is just plain ridiculous. Cut the melodrama if you want to be taken seriously.

    And I don’t have a White Anglo Saxon perspective. I’m asian, born and raised. I already have seen how not having those characters in my web browser was. Know what? It didn’t affect poverty stricken villages. Are you saying that governments wouldn’t oppress people if they could type asian characters into Internet Explorer?

  19. Operation Keep Darky Down says:

    "I want my friends see IE7 by auto update.

    If they see the IE7 by auto update, they will surprise on it.

    why you make the Japanese IE7 so late?"

    You see dokomi they want to make sure that all white people have it first.  They don’t care about your language.  They just want the white people to be happy.  I’m sorry your friends will have to wait but MS seems to hate your kind for some reason.

  20. not says:

    If Microsoft was actually racist, they wouldn’t even release an localized version for japanese.

  21. Adam Koehler says:

    "If Microsoft was actually racist, they wouldn’t even release an localized version for japanese."

    Well see they kind of have to. Helps people like you believe that racism isn’t rampant among our corporations today.

    As pointed out in an earlier thread.  What is Microsofts criteria for releasing these languages?  

    Japan’s economy is only second to America’s.  That would make Japan #1 on the auto-update list behind the US, would it not?

    It’s simple that Microsoft is releasing all white, romantic based languages via AU first.

    Figure it out.  It’s not that hard.

  22. Noburo says:

    This behavior makes at Microsoft look very poorly. Me for the customer a better browser can give selection Firefox. I offer that for the Japanese because of Microsoft haughtiness.

  23. guy.brush says:

    On October 30th the Internet Explorer worldwide website announced the final release of multiple international versions of IE7 including German and even Finnish:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/worldwide/default.mspx

    If you tried to follow the announced link to Microsoft Germany you received an error message, the site didn’t exist.

    If you tried to download Internet Explorer 7 from Microsoft Germany’s IE-website you would also simply receive an error message, there wasn’t even RC1 available any more.

    On October 31st the error message was replaced with that initially looked like the final download for Internet Explorer 7 in Germany.

    Well, it LOOKED like it except for one little detail … the -enu.exe in the file name. Nothing most unexperienced users would have noticed.

    Later the same day Microsoft Germany issues a PRESS RELEASE stating that Internet Explorer 7 German was AVAILABLE IMMEDIATELY! (Of course, it wasn’t)

    A lot of German technology related websites announce this with a link to what LOOKED like the final download for Internet Explorer 7 German.

    Thousands of Germans end up installing the ENGLISH version of Internet Explorer (that claimed to be the German version).

    TWO days later, in the evening, the download of the English version is silently replaced with the German version … no other changes to the website, no new announcement.

    This is absolutely sad and incredibly unprofessional. Makes you think that the left hand doesn’t know what the right one does … only that Microsoft is giant Octopus.

    Needless to say that Mozilla Firefox 2.0 was available in more than 30 languages upon release (just like its predecessors):

    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

  24. I’m continually impressed by the passion of our commenters…

    As TS pointed out, our delay offering IE7 on AU in Japan is due to feedback from customers in Japan. Obviously, we’d prefer to have users in Japan running IE7 sooner than later, but we’re trying to respect what we heard is unique about the Japanese market. Of course Japanese IE7 is already available for download.

    Ray: IE7 UI isn’t hardcoded, a fact you can prove for yourself via our MUI versions. The deltas between releases are a combination of completing the localization of the all of the strings plus testing the various IE versions on each of the localized Windows versions. While the IE/OS language combination shouldn’t make a difference since our code and UI text are separate, we think it’s best to make sure.

  25. xfile says:

    @David Wrixon

    Have you ever got out of the country or your home and visited any other countries in your life?

    You’ll be surprised to know that you might be the economic disadvantaged one.  Get real, and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  26. mary says:

    thank you.. i hope that you’ll do the italian version too???

  27. Satish says:

    Hi

    I am facing a peculiar problem with the new IE7 which got downloaded as part of the updates today.

    In the IE7 when I highlight the text, the background becomes dark blue and the text remains dark black making it very difficult to read the highlighted text.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/95074924@N00/

    I tried this in firefox and on normal notepad. Where the behavior seems to be ok. ( i.e. light blue background and white text ).

    Even the fonts in the text boxes are looking weird with a lot of inconsistent spacing between them.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/95074924@N00/

    I haven’t modified any default settings.

    Is is just me or is it a common problem ? Let me know

    If its a problem IE team pls take note.

    Satish

  28. David Wrixon says:

    xfile

    I spent about 7 years working in developing countries. I have seen the kind of deprevation that under-development brings first hand. I know that handouts have very limited impact, even no the scale that Bill Gates is talking about. What is required in the World is a level playing field. Despite all the big talk of freedom and democracy, whilst they go fighting to secure cheap supplies of oil, that is the one thing Americans will not provide.

  29. David Wrixon says:

    @ Tony Chor

    As Microsoft has left any mention about people being to Navigate in Japanese out of their publicity regarding IE7 for the first time and has preferred to twitter on about relative symantics such RSS feeds, it would be surprising in view of the distorted picture that they have, whether they could make an informed choice or not. Unless of course we are talking feedback from US Corporations operating in Japan.

    Of course Vista will gradually start to make a difference, but in the meantime, I hope the Japanese all start to adopt Firefox in big numbers, which supported 36 languages at launch.

  30. Gigi says:

    I can’t believe that the biggest software house (read: Microsoft) doesn’t release all localized versions of IE all in the same time…

    and I can’t believe that a free opensource project (read: Firefox) released its browser in 36 languages all in the same time…

    I was a IE fan but now I’m very disappointed, very very disappointed

  31. strangeupdate says:

    ok, so last night, I accepted the auto update of IE7.. I didnt’ want to but it kept pestering me to do so.

    the downlload finished, but never started an install? I went to micro update, but it says im up to date.

    so now what do i do? should I re-download and install it, or wait and hope it wakes up and installls by itself?

  32. david johnson says:

    this is more than enough one person stirking out against another either because of color or race!!!!  we all have forgoten why we are here!!  this is got to be the most unreal and most unethical topic out there today!!  who is getting what and when. people understand we are the ones that have a copy of a prerelease windows program not even on the market so what does poverity, color, race, or any of that  have to do with anything?  we are the ones that are having the option to find the areas of improvement for this operating system so that others can have a better operating system!!  maybe microsoft should have given yall the option to vote to who has the biggest brain and yall will still be wrong on that too!!!!  I am not saying that I have a big brain or know anything but yall have forgoten why or even the reason why this area is open for improvement!!!  you want to lash out why this one is getting this before that one and why others have more money than the other. think about this for a minute!  what if we can’t get all the things lined up for the release date what about that ( finding all the problems )!!  what will the others think about you and seeing yall lashing out at one another instead of finding the solutions to the problems!!  do you think that finding loop holes in the windows program is a better idea than lashing out on another person because to  me that does not fix nothing but make more problems!!  go ahead and lash out on me on what I have said but think before you do it maybe it will make you look even more deprived than others!!  what I am saying is get over who has what and when and get this done and get back to why we are here because microsoft is the reason why we even have this operating system first think about that and think about what will happen when the end date comes for this windows program shuts down will you pay for a program that you know is not finished and still has alot of improvement to be done  because you wanted to fight and not fix them!!!!!  think about that for a few and stop lashing out at one another get over it can this person help if he/she is this or that color or from this or that area or speaks in this or that language!  think before you speak because it shows your true colors and how you really are!!!!

  33. KL says:

    Ridicolous complaints, obviously MS is a US company, the localized versions always comes afterwards, why is this a suprise ?

    Exactly why some localized comes first probably has a lot to do with the teams working on each localization and not so much on the usuage or the population, why would this have any bearing on when to release it ? It’s a free product, doesn’t matter at all how large the population in a country is.

    Just relax, and also people, think about what you write on the internet, just because you feel anonymous doesn’t mean you need to behave like idiots, in fact, it says a lot about your true personality what you do and say when you think nobody knows who you are.

    If you write crap on the internet most likely you are an idiot irl and should take a hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why you are behaving like this and then change yourself. If you don’t you will be an idiot your whole life.

    Think about it.

  34. macbirdie says:

    As for IE7 compatibility testing, wouldn’t it be cool if MS released a kind of an IE7 virtual appliance, a cut down version of windows xp/vista with just ie7 installed, so web developers don’t have to switch from ie6 too soon. Maybe there’s a way to run IE7 on latest Windows PE (the Vista one)?

  35. goose says:

    In Australia, AU can be confused for Australia, rather than Automatic Update.

    Other than that, THANK YOU FOR SAVING TEH INTERNET!!!!!!!

    Internet Explorer 7 needs to travel around the world to save us all and push the web forward. Firefox and Opera and Safari have really been a web designer’s nightmare. Who on earth gave them the idea to widely support standards? They don’t work properly in IE, so I think they are all nuts!

    Good to see those tree-huggers get a taste of international IE7!!!

    Go Microsoft!!!!

  36. luca says:

    Can’t wait for Italian version. Please release it!

  37. Fduch says:

    Will IE7 support japanese MHT files when japanese version comes out?

  38. Adam Koehler says:

    *As TS pointed out, our delay offering IE7 on AU in Japan is due to feedback from customers in Japan.*

    That is hogwash.  How many people did you poll?  Have you looked at statistics?  Even people from Japan are coming here and commenting about this.  Well doing the best they can considering they have to in english.

    People in Japan are searching for their own language and trying to type it in by the millions.

    Statistics according to Yahoo.

    1172289  価格 com

    48896  一休 com

    17975  比較 com

  39. Adam Koehler says:

    *As TS pointed out, our delay offering IE7 on AU in Japan is due to feedback from customers in Japan.*

    That is hogwash.  How many people did you poll?  Have you looked at statistics?  Even people from Japan are coming here and commenting about this.  Well doing the best they can considering they have to in english.

    People in Japan are searching for their own language and trying to type it in by the millions.

    Statistics according to Yahoo.

    1.172.289  価格.om

    48.896  一休.com

    17.975  比較.com

    13.386  カリビアン.com

    11.904  国内線.com

    37.211  萌え.jp

    These are just the top few websites being searched for that THEY CAN’T type in.  These are huge websites.

    Now, tell me why again it’s in Japan’s economic best interest to withhold IE7 in AU from them.

    But go ahead and give it to the white people first.  Your reasoning makes no sense at all.

  40. KL says:

    You need to stop being arrogant, why should japan necessarily get it before all other countries ? Whats the matter with you people ?

    I live in sweden and you don’t hear me complaining that finland got it before we did even though sweden has a larger population or a larger precense on the web.

    Try and relax a bit and read my previous post.

    Whiners.

  41. Adam Koehler says:

    *I live in sweden and you don’t hear me complaining that finland got it before we did even though sweden has a larger population or a larger precense on the web.*

    Is your language so unique that you need a special browser to type it in?  While I know that you have some accented lettering in your language it is not a vital necessity as it is for the asian people.

    Not to mention, Japan’s econonmy is well, how should I put this.  Sweden would just be a little state in Japan compared to their econonmy.

  42. Aedrin says:

    "Will IE7 support japanese MHT files when japanese version comes out?"

    From the original post:

    "We have released  Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP in five new languages:  German, Japanese, French, Spanish, and Finnish. You can download these today from the IE website."

    You don’t even bother to read, do you? You just spout random ramblings.

    For the people mentioning Racism. Get a life…

    Seriously. The Japanese version is -available-. They are talking about Automatic Update.

    The only people that have a reason to complain are those without their localized version.

    And if FireFox is such a great browser, why are you downloading/installing IE7? Just so you can complain and be part of the anti-Microsoft gang?

  43. Rogi says:

    I found a posible bug (reproducible) for Internet Explorer 7 in Spanish.

    Steps to reproduce:

    – On the View menu, point to Encoding, and then click Auto-Select to place a check mark next to the item.

    – On the File menu, click Print Preview: The characters with written accents aren’t shown correctly.

    For example, "2 Page View" string in Spanish is "Vista de 2 páginas", but it’s shown as "Vista de 2 páginas".

    How can I make this bug manifest?

  44. KL says:

    Adam Koehler, you just confirmed my belief that you are a bunch of whiners and idiots.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with the economy, and yes, I do belive sweden has had a much greater and more positive impact on the world than japan, I can’t think of anything on top of my head that you contributed with except producing crap.

    Where are the true japaneese inventions ? Where are the great japaneese world leaders ? You just recently started participating in  peace keeping missions, where were you earlier ?

    Don’t talk to me about how great japan is, you have aboslutely nothing to bring to the table except apparently a whole lot of arrogance.

  45. . says:

    KL rules all! =P

    I’ve installed IE7 on 3 of my systems and I have yet to have any trouble. Anyone that does have poorly made computers or badly configured.

  46. Adam Koehler says:

    Again.  Statistics are statistics.  True Japanese inventions?  Um….  They are the center of just about everything electonic.

    Global Economic Rankings

    Budget Revenue.

    1  United States $2,466,000,000,000

    2  Japan $1,775,000,000,000

    Sweden $205,900,000,000

    Economic Aid Donor

    1. Japan $8,900,000,000

    2  United Kingdom $7,900,000,000

    3  United States $6,900,000,000

    Sweden $1,700,000,000

    Purchasing Power

    5  Japan $3,914,000,000,000

    36  Sweden $268,300,000,000

    Sorry that’s reality.

    Again I am asking Microsoft not you how a little poll of consumers told you not to distribute AU in Japanese when statistics such as these from Yahoo say otherwise

    1.172.289  価格.om

    48.896  一休.com

    17.975  比較.com

    13.386  カリビアン.com

    11.904  国内線.com

    37.211  萌え.jp

    Ten’s of thousands every month are trying to get to these websites.  It is vital they are among the first.

  47. Rubber Ducks Incorporated says:

    IE 7 Japanese AU being delayed. This is a disgrace to all of humanity!  Microsoft should not be at the helm.  There should be an international push to make MS equally treat each country.

    Release IE 7 in Japanese via AU NOWWW

  48. ange says:

    I’ve found bug in IE7 Japanese. another language of IE7 is not used yet.

    – CSS hack (* html, *+html)

    When make homepage or skin of blog, testing it in local mode and internet mode.

    In internet mode (load page from web server), CSS hack is loaded *+html (for IE7) but in local mode (load page from local file), CSS hack is loaded * html (for IE6 or below).

    Please fix CSS hack to loading *+html in local mode!

  49. Aedrin says:

    "Anyone that does have poorly made computers or badly configured."

    I think that is generally the case when people are having problems. But it is normal that people need something obvious to blame. And IE is the first thing they think of.

    "Again I am asking Microsoft not you how a little poll of consumers told you not to distribute AU in Japanese when statistics such as these from Yahoo say otherwise"

    Your arrogance far exceeds your ability to prove anything (random numbers, at least provide sources).

    How do you know that Microsoft does not have big clients in Japan that have asked to wait with the AU release?

    Why does everyone keep assuming they know how Microsoft works.

  50. Jeff Matthews says:

    Please release IE 7 in Japanese via AU now.  It is important to citizens of Japan to browse to websites in their languages using multilingual domains.  As you can see from Adam’s overture post there is alot of typin thus you can see there is a demand to get AU out here asap.

  51. Adam Koehler says:

    You want sources.  I already said Yahoo.  Need an address because you can’t figure it out?  Here. http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?mkt=jp

    Rankings?  Google it.  Oops said a dirty word.  They are from the cia book.

    About their business clients, um, didn’t seem to matter in America now did it?  They said consumers.  I have provided proof that consumers are saying otherwise.  Now Microsoft, please explain why if you say that consumers are not wanting this AU then why do the ovt numbers tell a different story.

    1.172.289  価格.om

    48.896  一休.com

    17.975  比較.com

    13.386  カリビアン.com

    11.904  国内線.com

    37.211  萌え.jp

  52. David Wrixon says:

    Could you just clarify for us whether of not Microsoft is pulling out of China or not? Seem to be a lot of conflicting new reports on this one.

    Of course if they carry on the way they are doing I wouldn’t blame the Chinese if they distributed a cracked version of Vista and just slung them out on their ears.

    How much cooperation should you expect when you provide so little?

  53. Jeff Matthews says:

    MS is not pulling out of China. They recently got into an agreement with Chinese PC Manufacturers to put Vista on all of their machines.  Microsoft also assisted the Chinese government in making it mandatory for all computers sold to include an Operating System.  Part of this effort was to combat the piracy rampant in China.

  54. David Wrixon says:

    Yes, that would explain why the only thing on a Japanese Website that is in English it the Domain Name. That is why nearly all the search is Kanji and Kana. How have you established the fact that Japan is an English speaking nation. CIA Website no doubt. If you look at that the number of English speakers in India rises from about 3% to 95%.

    Could any Japanese contributors confirm that Kanji has fallen into disuse and for convenience you prefer to use English as the last contributor has suggested.

    Of course perhaps we should bear in mind that this is an English Blog so a very small percentage of Japanese might not feel able to contribute here.

  55. dan says:

    I’m waiting for the second wave… I hope it will be my wave 🙂

  56. Aedrin says:

    "Need an address because you can’t figure it out?  Here."

    Link doesn’t appear to be giving any actual information.

    "About their business clients, um, didn’t seem to matter in America now did it?"

    Clients in America had longer to prepare because the Betas were first only available in English. So of course they required less preparation time.

    "They said consumers."

    I’ll quote:

    "As TS pointed out, our delay offering IE7 on AU in Japan is due to feedback from customers in Japan"

    Customers. I’d like to know how you infered that Customers translates to Consumers. Customers for Microsoft in my world indicate both business and consumer.

    And through all your comments, you fail to address the fact that the Japanese version is already available. So how do you propose to convince me that Microsoft is ignoring Japan?

  57. AC says:

    "There should be an international push to make MS equally treat each country"

    Unlikely. Particular countries have particular problems over varying details. See lawsuits.

  58. Mopreme says:

    Hey,

    I have some display problems (minors). Have you a large blank in the download dialog ?

    like that : http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8048/downloaduu3.jpg

    thx

  59. Mopreme says:

    another bug in the french version

    the word "Website" ("Site Web" in french) misses in the box.

    Look at : http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6918/misseslfy6.jpg

    can IE translators correct these bugs please

  60. Arieta says:

    >> Not to mention, Japan’s econonmy is well, how should I put this.  Sweden would just be a little state in Japan compared to their econonmy.

    Of course you do realize that Sweden has some of the most powerful internet lines on the world. Faster then an average USA line for sure.

  61. ieblog says:

    @Mopreme

    This feedback has been directed to the IE Team for investigation. Thank you.

  62. Fran [ex-MS] says:

    For those experiencing issues with localized versions, please checkout support options (phone and newsgroups) at

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/support/default.mspx

  63. Adam Koehler says:

    "Link doesn’t appear to be giving any actual information."

    Can’t figure it out because it’s in Japanese?  Hm.  Must feel like a Japanese person trying to figure out what ascii.com or ascii.jp mean when they are roaming the net.

    "Clients in America had longer to prepare because the Betas were first only available in English. So of course they required less preparation time."

    That still doesn’t explain the delay in the Japanese version as they had the same amount of time the Germans, French, and Spanish had to get it done as they were released at the same time.

    Consumers = Customers.  Same difference I of course what using consumer to make a point.  Whether buisness or individual they are all still consuming MS products.

    You’re a bad dream that won’t go away.  Because you are proving nothing.  Let MS answer this.

    Micrsoft:

    If ten’s of thousands of people are searching for these urls a month.  And they are unable to type them in their browser.  But statistics show they are searching for them trying.  Wouldn’t that make it a HIGH-PRIORITY update?  Or maybe not compared to the other theories posted here.

    I will post the stats again.  Again these are only monthly searches for yahoo.co.jp only.  And they are only the top few.  I could go on.

    1.172.289  価格.com

    48.896  一休.com

    17.975  比較.com

    13.386  カリビアン.com

    11.904  国内線.com

    37.211  萌え.jp

  64. Aedrin says:

    "Can’t figure it out because it’s in Japanese?  Hm.  Must feel like a Japanese person trying to figure out what ascii.com or ascii.jp mean when they are roaming the net."

    So you agree that your "source" means squat?

    "Consumers = Customers."

    Microsoft’s customers are both consumers (as the word is generally used for the public) and businesses.

    The point is that if they have several large clients in Japan that require more time to prepare, they will not screw them over.

    And as you post the same information for the 5th time (information that doesn’t prove anything), you still have not addressed the fact that a Japanese version is readily available. Proving your whole argument moot.

  65. Adam Koehler says:

    Micrsoft:

    If ten’s of thousands of people are searching for these urls a month.  And they are unable to type them in their browser.  But statistics show they are searching for them trying.  Wouldn’t that make it a HIGH-PRIORITY update?  Or maybe not compared to the other theories posted here.

    I will post the stats again.  Again these are only monthly searches for yahoo.co.jp only.  And they are only the top few.  I could go on.

    1.172.289  価格.com

    48.896  一休.com

    17.975  比較.com

    13.386  カリビアン.com

    11.904  国内線.com

    37.211  萌え.jp

  66. Gianni says:

    Please release ITALIAN language

  67. David Wrixon says:

    If Japanese "Customers" are unready that is because Microsoft has not told them, just like they appear to have made no mention that IE7 will support Japanese character names for the very first time.. They have done a poll without even explaining by far the most important issue of the lot. It is worth about as much as an election is under Mugabe. What possible use can a straw poll of opinion be with such blatant misinformation. Do you seriously think Tabbed Browsing and RSS are at the top of Japanese priorities. Don’t you actually being able to use Japanese Addresses might be up there somewhere? Don’t you think that are phishing issues in Japan, when you are forcing them not only to browse in a foreign language, but also in an Alien character set?

  68. donie says:

    Hey. get them auto update !

    Make same everycountries like they feel fair and = .

    why you guys make heaadache yourself?

    get make them even. it’s simple.

    and release ITALIAN one too soon.

    they want AU and you make them satisfied.

    that is your job to do..

  69. William Tan says:

    Since this is about l10n and i18n, I will mention that http://IDNSearch.NET is a site that allows you to discover IDN URLs in use today.

    It doesn’t even require IE7 (i.e. works with IE6 because all IDNs listed will be automatically converted to Punycode.) Also, the permalinks on the site uses proper IRIs so they are indexed very nicely by search engines.)

    http://IDNSearch.NET

  70. David Wrixon says:

    Which part of the following is irrelevant to Japanese people or are they just being discriminated against?

    <<<Automatic Updates distribution process

    To help our customers become more secure and up-to-date, Microsoft will distribute Internet Explorer 7 as a high-priority update via Automatic Updates. Distribution of Internet Explorer 7 by Automatic Updates will take several months to complete.

    Internet Explorer 7 features

    Internet Explorer 7 includes significant security enhancements to help protect you from malicious software and fraudulent websites, and Microsoft recommends that all genuine Windows customers install this update. These security enhancements include:

    "ActiveX Opt-in" through which all ActiveX controls not flagged for use in the Internet Zone are disabled, preventing malicious sites from misusing these controls, while still allowing the user to enable them with a single click.

    A "Phishing Filter" that helps you keep your personal data from being sent to fraudulent websites and online phishing scams.

    A "Fix My Settings" feature that warns you when your Internet settings may be unsafe and gives you a quick and easy way to reset them to secure defaults.

    Click here to review a full list of the dynamic security protection and other features Internet Explorer 7 provides to make everyday tasks easier.>>>

    It seems to me that least vulnerable are being pampered because they are White, whilst the most vulnerable are being discriminated against because they are not. For three years these people have been forced to navigate in an unfamiliar script, in addition to have having to deal with an appalling inadequate browser. Now Microsoft have ruled that the torment must continue for another six months. How the Gods on Mount Olympus must envy you!

    If you are saying that it is unsafe to unleash your programme on the World then you should not have subjected the rest of us to it. If you are saying that the Japanese have been poorly informed by Microsoft then I would agree and it is time they addressed that. If you are saying that IE6 is the best solution for Japan you are simply taking the Piss!

  71. Matt says:

    Hello folks,

    Pretty interesting and harsh discussions. I actually liked the enthusiasm reflected by some.

    In this regard, may I ask about the scheduling for Turkish version and the AU.

    Regards,

    PEACE

  72. William Tan says:

    I’m all for enabling AU for all localized versions. And I agree with Adam that the Japanese market is a HUGE one and should be made high priority.

  73. Joe says:

    Dave calm down……… take a few deep breaths

  74. Sickened by Wrixon says:

    David,

    How about you quit -feigning- your concern for "the people". Your ONLY -real- interest is "personal" and "economic" due to your investment in affected domains. Fess up to your REAL motives 😉

  75. Adam Koehler says:

    "If Japanese "Customers" are unready that is because Microsoft has not told them, just like they appear to have made no mention that IE7 will support Japanese character names for the very first time."

    This is also true.  Seems the Japanese Registry is having to do it for them.

    http://jprs.jp

    First link on the Japanese Registry site:

    http://使おう.jp/

    Notice something big?  Oh FIREFOX is first in the promotion.

    For those with IDN enabled browsers you can also go here.

    http://日本語.jp/

    All of these FACTS with Statistics and Microsoft monitoring this blog.  And still no response from them execept "our survey, blah, blah, blah."  

    Your survey is WRONG when it comes to those search numbers, comes to the registry, and comes to the news reports.  SORRY.

  76. Anton Kunckle says:

    Thanks for IE7. Why anyone would be having problems with the browser I just can’t understand. I’ve been using its various iterations for over 4 months now, with ZERO problems. The improvements over IE6 are marvelous!!

  77. Lofote says:

    Why are the MUI versions so delayed (January)? I don’t understand that.

    Just so that I can prepare the installation: will it be just like Office+Windows, where you install the standard english version and then install an additional e.g. German MUI pack? Or will the MUI version be a complete different deal this time?

  78. David Wrixon says:

    Yes, I admit that I have personal economic issues with Microsoft, but the critism is none the less valid and relevant. The damage that Microsoft have done by obtaining a Monopoly position by effectively making a web browser a free item, then totally ignoring development because it didn’t then pay, which was a situation entirely of their making as they had abused an almost total monopoly.

    Come on Microsoft how can you equate HIGH PRIORITY UPDATE with Somewhen in the Spring?

    I thought you guys dealt in logic.

    Yes is is bloody High Priority because it is about 3 years over due, but it isn’t high priority it would seem if you are of a different ethnic hue.

  79. Observer says:

    Wrixon obviously has a financial interest in fast deployment of IDN.  It’s amusing that he’s not giving the IE team any credit for supporting IDN at all.  Further amusing that he’s not aware that IE6 has supported IDN for a long time via plugin or DNS server support; the Chinese have been using Chinese domain names in IE6 for years.  

    Further amusing that he doesn’t even seem to know that IE has supported international domain names for far longer than any other browser: since IE5, to be precise.  The fact that standards bodies were too stupid to use UTF-8 (which IE5 fully supported) and instead invented this punycode nonesense is just proof of how detached from real customer needs that these standards groups are.

    Wrixon, you’ll get your payoff soon, just be patient.  It’s not clear why you think your international consumers are too dumb to actually download IE7, but don’t worry, they’re not reading your insulting drivel anyway.

  80. yuji says:

    Please understand why many feel strongly about this issue.

    World perception is that Microsoft used its considerable economic might to destroy all competition in the browser market some time ago.  IE browser development then abruptly halted and it wasn’t until competition again started to press, that the language features necessary to provide a complete internet experience for Asian users were eventually made available.  Again, the perception is that Microsoft has not acted in the best interests of its non-English-speaking user base.  

    In short, the responsibility of providing those users the tools necessary to communicate and use the internet in a fair and equitable manner has not been evident in Microsoft’s planning.  Hence, because Microsoft did not live up to this responsibility, or really even acknowledge it, this development has taken years longer than it should have.  Now that this tool has finally arrived, the decision to delay the automatic update (AU) is perceived as yet another stall tactic in a seemingly endless chain of corporate irresponsibility.

    To what end?

    Your explanation for the AU delay is “due to feedback from customers in Japan”. This is somewhat vague.  Please explain this in detail.  We have had as much time to prepare for this, and are as capable as the rest of the world – perhaps more so.  Excuse our distrust of your motives but our experience up to date has been somewhat less than memorable. Who are these customers you speak of?  We can find nobody that thinks that any delay is a reasonable idea.  

    Perhaps the AU delay is commercially motivated in the hopes to sell more Japanese copies of Vista?  Again, an explanation of Microsoft’s actions would be greatly appreciated by those amongst the party faithful.

    You have the opportunity to repair the strained relationship you have with your Asian customers.  Please do not treat us differently than others.  Please provide us with the tools that will give us a complete internet experience.  The tools denied us for so long by your dominance of the browser market.  

    Please include Japan in the AU for IE7 in the same manner and at the same time as you do for other nations.

  81. Marti says:

    The automatic download of IE7 in my computer resulted to a loss in files especially most if not all of my 3-year picture collection. i called Microsoft but no one free of charge is available to help me. Where’s the guarantee that anyone could loose their files while installing the new software? Please help willingly if you know the solution.

  82. David Wrixon says:

    @Observer

    <<Further amusing that he doesn’t even seem to know that IE has supported international domain names for far longer than any other browser: since IE5, to be precise.  The fact that standards bodies were too stupid to use UTF-8 (which IE5 fully supported) and instead invented this punycode nonesense is just proof of how detached from real customer needs that these standards groups are.>>

    UTF-8 a protocol for displaying Unicode. Punycode is one of two method that have been are there for a purpose. ICANN was appointed by the US Government to fulfil a roll. If Microsoft refuses to recognise that role then you can hardly blame ICANN for the problem.

    Yes, we are all aware that Punycode can be resolved by use of a pluggin and it would have done everyone a very massive favour if Microsoft had agreed to provide such a plugg in as an update years ago. Third party plug ins have never been adopted in large number and even China recognises that it cannot move forward properly with native browser support.

    Frankly, personally, I would love to see Microsoft pull this stunt on China in the same way that they have in Japan. I believe it would instantly resolve the problem of Microsoft’s domination of the OS market, or indeed any market. China will not be denied IDN support, and if Microsoft goes down that road they will find China a lot less forgiving than the EU, which still hasn’t finished with them.proposed for encoding UTF-8 Unicode so that it can pass the ICANN’s root servers. If you are suggesting that Microsoft have implemented a method of encoding Chinese Characters for resolution through the Internet without even consulting ICANN on the matter, then they are even more stupid than even I gave them credit for. Standard bodies

  83. David Wrixon says:

    Apologies for that I am still having problems with my dodgy MS software. For some reason cutting and pasting on this system is a nightmare. Never mind I have promised myself a MAC next time around.

    @Observer

    <<Further amusing that he doesn’t even seem to know that IE has supported international domain names for far longer than any other browser: since IE5, to be precise.  The fact that standards bodies were too stupid to use UTF-8 (which IE5 fully supported) and instead invented this punycode nonesense is just proof of how detached from real customer needs that these standards groups are.>>

    UTF-8 a protocol for displaying Unicode. Punycode is one of two method that have been proposed for encoding UTF-8 Unicode so that it can pass the ICANN’s root servers. If you are suggesting that Microsoft have implemented a method of encoding Chinese Characters for resolution through the Internet without even consulting ICANN on the matter, then they are even more stupid than even I gave them credit for. Standard bodies are there for a purpose. ICANN was appointed by the US Government to fulfil a roll. If Microsoft refuses to recognise that role then you can hardly blame ICANN for the problem.

    Yes, we are all aware that Punycode can be resolved by use of a pluggin and it would have done everyone a very massive favour if Microsoft had agreed to provide such a plugg in as an update years ago. Third party plug ins have never been adopted in large number and even China recognises that it cannot move forward properly with native browser support.

    Frankly, personally, I would love to see Microsoft pull this stunt on China in the same way that they have in Japan. I believe it would instantly resolve the problem of Microsoft’s domination of the OS market, or indeed any market. China will not be denied IDN support, and if Microsoft goes down that road they will find China a lot less forgiving than the EU, which still hasn’t finished with them.

  84. Jeff Matthews says:

    Once IE 7 becomes mainstream we should see more Japanese websites springing up.  Without a faster deployment of IE 7 growth will be slowed. It has taken years for MS to finally come to their senses and support IDNs.  What took them so long? It is a conspiracy that they didn’t start native support a few versions ago.

    Excuses, excuses excuses. This is just a ploy to get people in Japan to buy MS Vista if they want the latest goodies including IE 7 out of the box.

  85. some gaijin says:

    It is funny how distributors take precedence over paying users, isn’t it 😉

  86. paul7410@hotmail.com says:

    I can’t figure out the workaround for this issue:

    I have a local htm file located in c:some_folder.  The htm file has a

    hyperlink to a local file c:some_foldersomefile.ptvw.  When open the htm

    file in ie7, then click on the hyperlink to open the local file, I get this

    message first:

    "Do you want to open or save this file?" with options to Open, Save, or Cancel

    If I choose ‘OPEN’, instead of the file opening I get this message:

    "Do you want to save this file?"

    with options to save or cancel.

    Down below the options to save or cancel is this message:

    "The file you are downloading cannot be opened by the default program.  It

    is eirhte rcorrupted or it has an incorrect file type.  As a security

    precaution, it is recommended that you cancel the download."

    How can I tell ie7 to let me open this file without first saving it?

    Thanks in advance!

    PS – the file is not corrupt, I’ve played with trusted sites, file extensions, etc. to no avail.

  87. Adam Koehler says:

    Well it seems news orgs have picked up this story and are running with it.  I will help them along to prove that MS business clients are more than ever ready for this AU that they are denying them.

    So here we go.

    Notice how they are still using a latin based url.  IE7 Japanese AU is needed FOR these business to function properly.  You will find this consistent with all of these I post.

    比較.com

    Link to monthly yahoo.co.jp searches: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?term=%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83%20com&mkt=jp&lang=ja_JP

    [URL=http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rtv8.jpg][IMG]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7915/rtv8.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7915/rtv8.jpg

    一休.com  

    Link to monthly yahoo.co.jp stats: http://search.msn.co.jp/results.aspx?q=%E4%B8%80%E4%BC%91.com&FORM=MSNH&cp=65001

    Photo of site [URL=http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xow8.jpg][IMG]http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6885/xow8.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]  

    http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6885/xow8.jpg

    It is Microsoft that is holding them back.  No one else.  These companies are ready.  These companies have been waiting.  And Microsoft has still to give a straight answer.  There are conclusions, but these are facts.

    Microsoft deal with it.  You painted yourself in a corner.  It is HIGH-PRIORITY for AU in Japan right NOW!

  88. Yoshi says:

    Japanese news sites will run stories about this. Warned.

  89. Jeff Mattthews says:

    MSFT has only commented once in the blog comments about the issue at hand.  MSFT needs to wake up and look abroad to see that english is not the only language spoken in the world.  Microsoft is technically flipping off Japan.  AU delays are actually  HURTING ecommerce in Japan.  Japan is the second largest economy in the world.  They are not a tiny island nation.  They are a powerful industrial island.  Millions of Japanese users would like to use domains in their own language.

  90. Adam Koehler says:

    Hm… Well it seems I realized something else.

    When a japanese person is forced to put a website name in say msn.co.jp.  Microsoft has ads plastered all over the place.

    Say for instance.

    比較.com

    Instead of a japanese person being able to directly navigate to this website they are forced to go through search.

    Here is a link to the msn search for 比較.com

    http://search.msn.co.jp/results.aspx?q=%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83.com&FORM=MSNH&cp=65001

    At ten’s of thousands of searches a month.  How much are you Microsoft pocketing from the ads and taking away from the websites that are already established waiting for direct navigation in their url?

    It seems to me that you are fleecing these established sites for all you can for as long as you can.

    Had I not messed up and put a link to msn.co.jp I would have never noticed.  You are directly responsible for this.

  91. gakkari says:

    I have long awaited the Japanese release of IE7. Personally, I can download it now. That is not a problem.

    However, it is essentially a non-release for your average user and business until it is released on Automatic Update. If it is not on AU, the average general user will not know that it has been released. Many businesses will not be able to manually install it either without administrator assistance.

    Honestly, I am a little disappointed with this decision. People who decided that they will pass or wait on IE7 should install the Blocker Toolkit.  You have provided an opt-out feature. How about an "Non-Blocker Toolkit" on AU now that provides an opt-in?

    Until IE7 is available on AU, it is essentially a non-release.

  92. Jeff Matthews says:

    Microsoft states that Japanese businesses need a long window before AU goes into effect….

    I can see two main reasons but not for a software package like IE 7.  Typically hardware needs to be upgraded and training has to be done to teach employees how to use the software. However I’m at loss here….. We’re talking about IE 7.  What could businesses possibly be pressing MS for regarding delaying IE 7 AU release?

    Training?

    If a employee doesn’t know how to use IE 7 then maybe they shouldn’t be working at the company at all.  It’s not that hard to use.  Companies looking to have an IE training course should put their money elsewhere.

    Hardware?

    LOL. No upgrades needed.  We don’t need to wait   for corporations to upgrade their hardware just for IE.  Maybe in the future in IE 20.0 since MS produces alot of bloatware. 😉

    Sure Japanese companies are waiting for Vista but why the wait?  They can have AU on their old machines and done again later when their new machines arive.  

  93. Yasuo Hanada says:

    I am a web designer in Tokyo.  My company builds many major Japanese corporate websites.  The number of people who use kanji based url entry in Japan is minimal.   For example, most people who use 価格.com do not type in the kanji, they just type kakaku.com to get to the site. Same for 比較.com, they just type hikaku.com and get there. The numbers being quoted for the various missed searches are minimal compared with the total numbers of users actually access the sites listed with no problem.

    In my opinion, the people making a fuss about this lack of local language domain support are probably the people trying to sell local language domain registration.

    Just my 2 yen…

  94. says:

    国の為なら血を流せ!同志の為なら涙を流せ!家族の為なら汗を流せ!

  95. Adam Koehler says:

    You may be a web designer Yasuo.  But the search statistics show otherwise.

    Searches in Yahoo.co.jp for Sept. 2006

    Searches for hikaku.com 1.358

    http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?term=hikaku%20com&mkt=jp&lang=ja_JP

    Searches for 比較.com (hikaku) 17.975

    http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?term=%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83%20com&mkt=jp&lang=ja_JP

    For a difference of 16.617 people that searched for and missed.  If this is minimal I would hate to see what a large number is.  Oh wait there’s another.

    Searches for 価格.com 1.172.289

    http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?term=%E4%BE%A1%E6%A0%BC%20com&mkt=jp&lang=ja_JP

    Searches for kakaku 341.578

    http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?term=kakaku&mkt=jp&lang=ja_JP

    For a difference of 803.701  Still minimal?

    I really am glad you are not designing and maintaining my websites if this difference is minimal.

  96. David Wrixon says:

    @Yasuo Hanada

    Yes you are correct most successful attempts to access the site are achieved using the Latin version. That is because many will be aware of no other way of doing it. That does not represent a free choice, it is just indicative of how restrictive Microsofts policies are.

    Just think how many attempts would be made using the Kanji version if they were ever rewarded with success!

  97. hAl says:

    Here on secunia blog the CTO of secunia claims that in IE7 the default disabling of Navigate sub-frames across different domains does not work.

    Literrally he says:

    "Today, in IE7 this setting has been disabled by default – that is a good thing – but it doesn’t work – that is a bad thing!"

    (see http://secunia.com/blog/2/ )

    Could someone from Micrsoft confirm whether or not that is correct ???

  98. Ehsan says:

    Now I get why you don’t pay attention to the problems mentioned in this blog about IE7.

    There is tons of nonsense said here. Things that don’t relate to the main issues of IE.

    But you could search for useful comments at least.

  99. Fduch says:

    @Ehsan

    >Now I get why you don’t pay attention to the problems mentioned in this blog about IE7.

    No. You don’t get it. They don’t pay attention to problems mentioned anywhere be it official IE7 bug tracker (dead), this blog or popular media.

  100. David J says:

    Leave it to that piece of sh*@ website Yahoo? to figure out a way to hijack an IE7 download!  Unbeknownst to me when I decided to upgrade to version 7, this meant my entire toolbar would now be Yahoo? based.  I had to go back in and make several changes, and now I don’t have to deal with the schmucks.

    IE is a reputable company.  You shouldn’t live in the sewer with the likes of Yahoo?

  101. Adam Koehler says:

    @XCondE

    I am producing nothing but factual statistics.  What do you provide?  An insult to an entire nation.  Congrats on your contributions.

    I’m even going to go one step futher with my information. As in reference to Yasuo post.

    Here is the google trend for 比較.com vs.hikaku.com

    http://google.com/trends?q=%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83.com%2C+hikaku.com

    Notice something?  Hikaku doesn’t even show up on the list.

    Here is the google trend for 価格.com vs. kakaku.com

    http://google.com/trends?q=%E4%BE%A1%E6%A0%BC.com%2C+kakaku.com&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

    kakaku finally shows up but guess what’s sought more?  You guessed it. 価格.com

    The Japanese people need this browser more than ever and Microsoft is making millions off the search results to these names because the Japanese can’t type in their native language in the url.

    MSN.co.jp Search for 価格.com

    http://search.msn.co.jp/results.aspx?q=%E4%BE%A1%E6%A0%BC.com&FORM=MSNH&cp=65001

    MSN.co.jp search for 比較.com

    http://search.msn.co.jp/results.aspx?q=%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83.com&mkt=ja-JP&form=QBRE&go.x=19&go.y=10

    Microsoft has the tools to AU Japan but why would they when millions are to be made on people having to search for these characters.

    If I were these companies (which I’m not) and I realized Microsoft was making millions off my established website using my language against me.  Especially when they have the tool (IE7 AU) to remedy this.  There WOULD be a lawsuit for sure.

    So call me a whiner, call me what ever.  These are STATISTICAL facts.  Japan is in dire straights.  And MS is making millions off of  already establisted sites waiting to use their language via AU in IE7.  And as stated before by a Japanese person above without AU it is essentially a non-release.

  102. Several people seem to indicate that IDN-Support would be essential to Japanese users. I can’t follow that argument: Of the 600 or so Japanese visitors who

    visited my site in October, 69% used IE6 which is not

    capable of IDN (of course I cannot know how many of

    them had the IDN-plugin). Firefox contributes to only

    12%, which is significantly less than the

    cross-country average of 20%.

    In contrast, IE7 usage in Japan (3.0%) is close to

    the average (3.4%).

    From these figures, it emerges that IDN support cannot

    be  a big issue in Japan, or that Verizon’s plugin

    works well for everybody.

  103. Adam Koehler says:

    @ Gernot Katzer

    Well then please let us know what the website is or prove it with screen shots.  I would say most are entering your site via search engines, not direct type-ins.  

    This is what I have noticed with mine, most if not all of my traffic from my IDN sites are search engine traffic.

    So please provide a little proof to your claims.

    I don’t know how it is so hard to follow the statistics I have laid out above.

  104. Jeff Matthews says:

    @ Gernot Katzer

    Are you serious?  You’re trying to prove your point from a Japanese site that gets 20 visitors/day? (20 x 30 = 600).  It is too small of a test group to draw from.

    Also you probably have an Ascii URL that is far up for a Japanese search term.  We are talking about IDNS!  How do you prove your point that IDNs aren’t needed?  600 visitors/month vs over a hundred million population in Japan.

  105. David Wrixon says:

    Our information indicates that Japanese use search predominantly because they cannot navigate normally. You can get to IDN sites quite comfortably using search, although navigating to where you wanted to go is entirely another matter. This is the kind of bizzare, twisted mess that has been created by Microsoft over the last few years, and now they are issuing themselves a licence to extend it for another 6 months.

    They are also attempting to justify by saying it is what the Japanese want. Despite have gone to great efforts to never even publicise the merits of IE7 in terms of being able to navigate in local characters.

    I don’t know what there real agenda is here, but something smells most unsavoury. I can assure you whatever is happening, it won’t be in the best interests of the Japanese people or indigenous Japanese Companies taken as whole.

  106. Sickened by Wrixon says:

    Once -=AGAIN=- I gotta say that David is using the "best interests of the Japanese people or indigenous Japanese Companies" as if he has some cultural or puritanical concerns… which is -=FAR=- from true 😉

  107. Dee says:

    After installing ie7 today, IIs 5.1 on windows xp sp2 is extremely slow or non responsive.

    What is the problem – how do I fix this ??

  108. Adam Koehler says:

    @ Sickened by Wrixon

    Are you even looking at the statistics that have been laid out?  It’s simple.  Just click the little links and read.  You are providing nothing to this conversation.  

    If you have studies or links that prove otherwise then please fill us in.

    But we’ve done years of research on this. But thanks again for more non-contributions.

  109. Harry Richter says:

    "First Wave of Localized IE7 Releases Now Available"

    Good, but the problem is, the installer is defective – BAD.

    I would sure like to roll out IE7 for all machines in our intranet, but it does not work. Why? Simply because the installation process requires the Microsoft Genuine Disadvantage test, something that will NEVER happen in our intranet. These machines have no internet connection, and they never will. Since MS provides us with a nice tool (WSUS), these machines are all up to date, with the updates carried over from an internet-connected WSUS server to the intranet via CD (or USB-stick). I am really curious, if the update to IE7 with AU will work, but I assume, it will not.

    MS hear this: Now ist the time for us to get rid of IE6! If our next browser for our intranet can be IE7 (without the necessity to run the MGD-tool), then we will be happy to use it. If not, it will be an alternative browser. And that will bring LINUX ot our desktop another step closer. We might be just too small for MS to notice, but the scenario we have does not seem to be too uncommon. You will find, that you are on the verge of loosing a lot of business!

    Harry

  110. Yasuo Hanada says:

    @ Adam Koehler

    You are ignorant of Japanese web usage and the correct use of statistics such as Google Trends. Linking to a site that compares the search of Kanji vs. Romanji (Chinese characters vs. English characters) you prove only that Japanese like to type in kanji into a search engine – and we do.  This does not relate to how we type our urls into the browser. Nor does it relate to how many people would like to have multi-byte domain names.

    You are irrelevant.

  111. Jeff Matthews says:

    @ Yasuo Hanada

    If I read your post correctly you’re stating that there is a big difference between what people type into search and into the address bar?  Japanese are forced to search with their language as IE 6 didn’t support the characters. I’m sure once IE 7 is mainstream people will get use to typing native characters into the address bar.  This is common sense.

  112. Jeff Matthews says:

    Yasuo,

    Why would Japanese people care if the url is "multi-byte" characters?  Come on……

  113. David Wrixon says:

    @ Sickened by Wrixon

    I have acknowledged a commercial interest earlier in the thread.

    You could at least reveal you true identity.

    Who of is the one that is truely sick here?

  114. David Wrixon says:

    @ Yasuo

    The Japanese do not like to type Japanese Character domains for two reasons. The first is that they don’t resolve for the vast majority of users because Microsofts persistent intransigence has prevented that from happening. The second is because there is little or no content on such URLs, due to the first reason.

    The fact is nobody Japanese or otherwise can know until the Japanese are given the opportunity to do this. What is known, however, is that there is a very strong correlation between Keywords used in Search and Type In Traffic.

    I cannot imagine how anyone with the vaguest interest in either Japan or the Japanese language cannot be even remotely interested in determining, what the Japanese would really like to and giving them the freedom to do it. It is not therefore surprising that you Japanese credentials are in question.

  115. Adam Koehler says:

    @ Yasuo:

    Um.  There is a direct correlation between what people search for and what people type-in their browsers.  That is why there is a whole genre of business called "domaining."

    But of course you know all considering you’re a master web site maker and have backed up nothing with facts.

    So sorry, you are the one that is irrelevant.

    Bring back something with facts in stead of your opinion.  Then we will talk.

  116. Adam Koehler says:

    I had to re-read this to get an extra laugh.

    Yasuo quoted as saying:

    "Nor does it relate to how many people would like to have multi-byte domain names."

    Millions are searching for them so it proves they want IDN.  And the biggest companies are using them.  Not a marketing major were you?  

    Microsoft has a few of those majors in their corp. and they are marketing ads to these sites that people are searching for in the "multi-byte" sorry IDN domains no one seems to want.

    Sorry.

    Again, bring something with facts.  If of course you are Japanese to begin with.

    Maybe your company got a little mad once you made your post and realized 17.000 thousand people are missing their site, if indeed you are a web-designer.

  117. @ Adam Koehler, Jeff Matthews

    While I agree that the sample is very small, my point is that among my few Japanese visitors, IE6 is quite popular and FF is quite unpopular, compared to the average of all countries. So, if the majority of visitors prefer IE6 over FF, this means that IDN is not a high-priority factor in their choice of browsers.

    This is true whether or not the visitors enter via search engine (which they indeed do). Moreover, the site is English with a lot of Japanese keywords interspersed.

  118. Jeff Matthews says:

    @ Gernot Katzer

    Firefox is bigger in the U.S. than in other countries such as Japan. IDN is a high factor in their choice.  Top tier IDNs have been picked up less than a year ago so its not like they had idn sites to visit til now. Microsoft has bigger marketing muscle than IE.  To think that Firefox is going to become so big in Japan without the big marketing department that MS has is a joke.

    When IDNs become popular expect IDN sites to compete for your SE traffic.  Having an IDN url will help SEO wise. You just learned search engine 101.

  119. gakkari says:

    @Yasuo

    Please speak for yourself. Until recently, I have been forced to use roomazi / roomaji / romaji (etc) URLs. There was never a choice. I would prefer to type in Japanese if given the choice.

    There are too many ways to romanize Japanese. Especially troublesome are long vowels: 1) use a macron (not in ASCII), 2) double the vowel (ex: oo), 3) use an h (ex: oh), 4) ignore it. Next is し, ち, つ. We Japanese think of them as "si, ti, tu", but often they are romanized as "shi, chi, tsu". And then there is ん, which is usually "n", but possibly "m" in certain environments. Small っ needs consideration as well: double the following consonant or use "t"? There is no consistent standard that everyone follows.

    Talking with friends and co-workers about URLs is often tedious. Often I end up writing it down or just e-mailing them the link.

    Perhaps you are not very informed of Japanese web usage. You are not the only one in Japan using the Internet.

    And yes, I do want a Japanese domain name someday.

    I think it is great that IE7 and Firefox enable support for IDN. Unfortunately, few people seem to be aware of the new IE7. I just asked around my office. Most of my coworkers did not know the name of their browser, much less the version. Several said that nothing has appeared on the update site, so it must be the latest version (ie, still IE6).

    This is a disservice to us in Japan.

  120. timecop says:

    1.172.289  価格.com

    Thats all nice, but that domain doesnt even exist, so why does it matter?

  121. whatever says:

    @timecop

    価格.com does not exist, but 比較.com does.

    Link: http://www.比較.com/

  122. Trent says:

    Still can’t install Ie7.  I get an unhanded exception and then my computer reboots and I have no windows internet explorer no version 6 or version 7.

    I try to download again, but now installer hang up before it gets started.

  123. Pay Attention says:

    Sigh.  Let’s take a look at some photos of the IE team.  Tony Chor, the guy who runs the IE team is in the first picture.  

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/22/473159.aspx

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/10/28/486491.aspx

    The IE team is pretty diverse.

    Microsoft is a business.  They have to sell to other businesses.  They have sales people in every country. If the companies in Japan said "we want more time before autoupdate", what do you think Microsoft is going to tell them: "No"?

    As they say in detective shows: Follow the money. David thinks he can make more money if IE comes out with IDNs sooner, and foolishly believes that his whining about racism might embarass the company into ignoring their actual customers and listen to this gold-rusher instead.

    It’s probably worth mentioning that the IDNs ending in .com don’t even render as Unicode in your beloved Firefox.

  124. oidon says:

    @Pay Attention

    > The IE team is pretty diverse.

    In what respect would that be? Is there something about their physical features that tells you that? I looked at the pictures and I can not determine any such information.

    > Microsoft is a business.

    How much are they selling IE7 for? It’s free.

    > If the companies in Japan said

    > "we want more time before autoupdate",

    > what do you think Microsoft is going

    > to tell them: "No"?

    Absolutely. And then tell them about the update blocker tool specially created just for this situation.

    By the way, who exactly are these companies? I work at a large Japanese company (in Japan) and have never heard any such hesitation from my IT department (which I am part of).

  125. Observer says:

    "Cerf and other ICANN officials say that what they see as a careful and considered approach is being construed by others as stalling (wonder where they got that idea) or an attempt to undermine the use of foreign, non-English characters." – icannblog, October 31st, 2006

    Sounds much like what the IE7 team is doing with the non update in Japanese.

  126. Yasuo Hanada says:

    @ gakkari

    I have to question whether you are the one who is really not Japanese. Most people in Japan just type in the 漢字 into Yahoo Japan or goo tool bar and quickly find what they want. We do not worry much about romanization. Just cut/paste/email to friends. Romaji is not the big problem, most people just type the kanji into their search bar. They do not consider the address bar to be a search bar in most cases.

    @ David Wixom

    Most successful domain lookups are in romaji because the domain name comes from a Yahoo or goo search, not from a user directly entering it.

    We have the highest penetration of optical fiber networks in the world, a 100Mbs line to my apartment costs less than 40 dollars a month. It is not a significant delay for me, or most other Japanese, to just use the search bar, and not the address bar to search. The internet is very, very fast here in Japan. The only place I have been that is faster is Korea. I have not travelled that much, though.

    @ Adam Koehler

    I have to question the motives of you and the other loudest complainers on this list.  It seems like most of you invested in kanji domains years ago, and you are still hoping to earn money from this questionable investment. Good luck!

    @ !!!

    Traitor? What a joke. Please get a real life.

  127. David Wrixon says:

    @Yasuo Hanada

    You clearly admit that the address bar is redundant for the Japanese, yet you cannot see that this is due to inadequate browser support.

    The big US organisations really do have you where they want you. They are systematically pointing you to the information that they wish to indoctrinate into you rather than allow you to roam freely around the Internet access information of your choosing, by typing in the addresses you wish to access. The worst of it all is you are so far gone, you cannot even see that there is a problem!

  128. Matt says:

    hahhahhahaha,

    Great posts!!!

    The funniest crowd I’ve ever bumped into recently.

    OK MSFT, just ingore the Japanese issue for a while and pls answer when Turkish version and AU are coming out. Thanks.

    Regards,

    PEACE

  129. Stan says:

    When I launch IE7, my home page is set to blank.

    Why does it (a) take so long, and (b) show "Connecting…" for about 3 seconds, when there is (i) nothing to connect to, and (ii) no HTML to render?

    Hate to point out flaws, but in Opera or Firefox, this loads in milliseconds and does not suggest to the user that it is actually loading anything.

    Also, why does it say about:blank? it would be nicer if it was just blank (not even the word blank, just an empty address.

  130. Bill says:

    Anyone know if this is considered a critical or security update?  I am running WSUS 2.0 on my network and want to make sure I can keep it of my machines for a while because of some web app compatibilty issues.  I do like automatically approving security updates though.  I see that it is a high priority update.  What class will that fall under?  

  131. David Wrixon says:

    @Aedrin

    So you agree we should all only see what the Search Engines want us to see, or does that only apply to Japanese people?

    Also on the Phishing issue, is OK for non-Americans to be subjected to a much higher risk of Phishing because they are being forced to navigate in a strange character set? Are you comfortable with that?

    Of course Microsoft have come up with the solution to phishing, but then again the Japanese won’t get the benefit unless they get to download it.

    Nobody on this thread does not have a commercial interest. I have never denied having a commercial interest. I have no objection to Microsoft writing and distributing software for commercial gain. What I do vehermently object to is abuse of a monopoly position. The US Government also does when it suits its interests. That is why you have your Anti-Trust Legislation.

  132. Jeff Matthews says:

    Microsoft does not care. If they did care they would be responding to comments from consumers here.

  133. David Wrixon says:

    Microsoft would care if lots of Japanese Webmasters start putting download links to Firefox on their front pages. Finland downloaded Firefox more than any other nation. That is why they are High Priortiy. Japan so far hasn’t, so that make them Low Priority.

    If you want to motivate Microsoft, you are going to have to give them some heat to deal with.

  134. Aedrin says:

    "Well other than the VALID statistics I’ve shown and put links to."

    You cannot prove that all those searches were done with the intention that you -assume-. Assuming something is not proof.

    People want Microsoft to work more on CSS, all languages at the same time, replies to all comments here.

    Is there anything you don’t want? They have no responsibility to post here. This is something they offer out of their free will.

    "Microsoft would care if lots of Japanese Webmasters start putting download links to Firefox on their front pages."

    That won’t happen. FireFox is a nice browser but it is not usable by companies. Even if all personal users would use FireFox, there would still be so much market share from businesses that there wouldn’t be a problem.

  135. Adam Koehler says:

    Well it seems MS is here they are just erasing my posts.

    And yes, they search for these characters because they CANT type them in the URL of their IE6.

    That’s no assumption, that is a fact.

    And yes, Microsoft has a duty to answer their consumers or they will be left without any.

  136. I would really like to know when the AU version is arriving as well?

    Us boys down under get forgotton about.

    Darryl

  137. Aedrin says:

    "And yes, they search for these characters because they CANT type them in the URL of their IE6.

    That’s no assumption, that is a fact.

    And yes, Microsoft has a duty to answer their consumers or they will be left without any."

    1. Show me what you base this fact on. I know positively that people will type in URLs because they don’t know an address for sure. So they search for it.

    2. If you call their Customer Service number I’m sure they will answer you. This blog is not an official point of contact. It is there to release information unofficially.

  138. dts says:

    Are these localized versions have latest security patch applied? IE7 is out since 1 week with some patches in queue.

    Administrator

    http://www.india.co.in

  139. David Wrixon says:

    This is where the information has been released. This is where it is being scrutinized. Seems fair. If what is being done is reasonable then it should not be difficult to answer the critisism.

    From the lame responses we have had so far, I conclude that Microsoft wish us to believe that some of their have not be properly informed of the Auto Update Block. We are now being told it is going to take 6 months for these custumers who are extremely motivated to avoid AU 6 months to take the necessary action.

    Do you get the impression at all that we don’t believe a word of it?

  140. Jeff Matthews says:

    Better yet why doesn’t IE have a blog in Japanese.  Japanese users can respond to the issue.

    Also why isn’t MS promoting the ability to use foreign language domains??????  Is MS that dense?  It can get more people in Japan to download IE 7.

  141. David Wrixon says:

    For some reason, it would seem that is not what they want. If you keep an eye on the Japanese Version of IE6, all may become apparent.

  142. when? says:

    When’s the turkish version coming out? That’s the real question.  

  143. reality check says:

    Microsoft: why was my comment deleted?

    It was not abusive nor did it contain profanity.

    It was a balanced logical comment, and you were invited to reply.

    Is this how you deal with your customers?  If you hear something you don’t like and cannot answer – you silence them?

  144. Adam Koehler says:

    Why are you deleting a link to a translation so that Japanese readers can read this blog?

    I would think it’s important.

    This is a Japanese translation for this blog.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.msdn.com%2Fie%2Farchive%2F2006%2F11%2F02%2Ffirst-wave-of-localized-ie7-releases-now-available.aspx&langpair=en%7Cja&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

  145. David Wrixon says:

    If you are having problems registering your views here then I would suggest that you post them here:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20061104/tc_cmp/193501761

  146. gakkari says:

    @Yasuo

    > Most people in Japan

    Again, you claim to speak for "most people". Do you have statistics to back this claim? Do you know most people in Japan? Have you even met most people in Japan? If not, then please, speak for yourself.

    > … just type in the 漢字 into Yahoo Japan

    > or goo tool bar and quickly find what

    > they want.

    I (as opposed to others who I can not speak for) also perform searches using a mature of 漢字 and 仮名 very frequently. However, when I know an address, I would like to enter it directly instead of relying on a search engine to provide a link for me.

    Luckily you can depend on your toolbars and bookmarks. I could only imagine what would happen if you forgot the address to your favorite search engines and you could not search for them…

    I am curious. Do you need to search for Goo, Google, or Yahoo in your toolbar to find it?

    > We

    Who is "we"?

    > … do not worry much about romanization.

    You are assuming (前提) that you will not type the URL into the address bar, but instead will rely on search engines.

    However, I prefer to directly type in URLs. I often visit 比較.com . Until recently, I would have to romanize it to hikaku.com . I did not have a choice. This one is not difficult, but in this case I do need to worry about romanization. Now I do have a choice. I can directly type http://www.比較.com into the address bar. Now that I have a choice, I use it often. And with more and more IDNs becoming available, I expect others will use it more.

    > They

    Who is "they"?

    > … do not consider the address bar to

    > be a search bar in most cases.

    Because the address bar is not a search engine. It is for directly typing in addresses instead of needlessly searching for the address every time. I search for things when I need to find them. When I have already found them (= know the address), I do not feel a need to search for them again.

  147. Adam Koehler says:

    That is since you aren’t going to address anything anyone has to say on the matter.

    But don’t worry, how many blogs can this get posted on.  It’s already being syndicated.

  148. Observer says:

    "Cerf and other ICANN officials say that what they see as a careful and considered approach is being construed by others as stalling (wonder where they got that idea) or an attempt to undermine the use of foreign, non-English characters." – icannblog, October 31st, 2006

    Sounds much like what the IE7 team is doing with the non update in Japanese.

  149. David Wrixon says:

    @Observer

    Maybe but they are unlikely to be the ones calling the shots.

    My personal opinion is that this has much more to do with the MSN team that it does the IE team. Time will tell.

  150. Jimmi Shrode says:

    Where is the little animated logo in the corner? Can you turn that back on? Can you get rid of the search box in the corner, too? I already have a Goggle Search Bar.  

  151. Mopreme says:

    ieblog : have you some news about the translation mistakes in the french version ?

  152. juan says:

    I want to open a page upon starup of IE7 is there anybody knows how?

  153. David Wrixon says:

    @Russia

    It would seem that with Microsoft in control of the browser market, writing your own is the way to go. Do you have a URL for the Independent Russian Version.

  154. David Wrixon says:

    据人民邮电报报道,2006年10月18日,微软IE7英文版在全球范围正式发布,网民可以到微软官方网站下载安装。According to People’s Post and Telecommunication News, October 18, 2006. IE7 Microsoft officially released in English in the world, Internet users can download and install Microsoft’s official website. IE7英文版的正式发布得到众多用户的追捧,据率先使用该版本的一批用户反映,在IE7众多的新功能中,中文.CN的便利使用,是其主要亮点。IE7 to be officially released by the many users of English stock, the first to use the version number of users. IE7 many new functions in Chinese. CN facilitate the use of its main highlights.

    另据可靠消息,IE7中文版本也将在1个月后正式面世。According to a reliable source, the Chinese version of IE7 will be formally published in one month. 专家提醒,企业应抓紧时间注册开通自身品牌的中文.CN域名。Experts have warned that enterprises should make the best use of time for registration of Chinese opened their own brands. CN domain names.

    业内专家认为,作为世界上应用最为广泛的互联网浏览器,微软IE7英文版本的正式发布对互联网的发展有着较大的影响。Industry experts believe that as the world’s most widely used Internet browsers. The official English version of Microsoft IE7 to have a greater impact on the development of the Internet. 与IE6相比,IE7考虑了更多的和网站、扩展及程序的兼容性等问题。Compared with IE6, IE7 consider more and websites to expand the compatibility issues and procedures. 其中涉及对中文.CN的全面支持,对中国互联网的发展尤其重要,随着IE7的正式发布使得中文.CN的应用扫清了一切技术障碍,人们可以通过在地址栏直接输入“中文.CN”直达网站(如直接输入“北京.CN”等),这无疑将有效简化国人上网方式。Pertain to the Chinese. CN has the full support of China’s Internet development is particularly important. With the official release of IE7 makes Chinese. CN cleared all technical barriers to the application, It can be imported directly in the address column "Chinese. CN "to the web site (such as direct input" in Beijing. CN "). This undoubtedly will be an effective way to simplify people online. 可以说,只要是懂中文的人,都能通过这种方式上网。It can be said that so long as the people are literate in Chinese, can use this method to the Internet. 专家预测,下个月正式发布的IE7中文版将带来一场席卷全国乃至全球华人世界的中文.CN注册和使用热潮。Experts predict that formally announced next month, will bring a Chinese version of IE7 over the country and even the world of ethnic Chinese. CN registration and the use of fever.

    据了解,IE7英文版对中文.CN的支持主要有以下几个方面:1.在地址栏输入“中文.CN”可以直达网站。It is understood that IE7 English to the Chinese. CN supports the following main aspects : 1. Address column in the importation of "Chinese. CN "direct access to the website. 如输入“北京.CN”,即能直达中央政府门户网站“首都之窗”。If the importation of "Beijing. CN ", can go straight to the central government portal," I want to tell those. " 2.地址栏默认回显中文,下拉列表回显中文。2. Column addresses significant acquiescence to Chinese, Chinese DDLB back significantly. 也就是说,在地址栏中,我们看到的始终是正确的中文网址。In other words, the address column, we see the Chinese web site is always right. 3.“收藏夹”中可以正确添加、显示、访问“中文.CN”。3. "Collections clip." Can be added correctly show that the visit "in Chinese. CN. " 4.“历史记录”中能正确显示已访问过的中文.CN。4. "Historical Records" has visited the Chinese to display correctly. CN. 5.支持页面中的中文.CN的超链接访问。5. Support to the Chinese pages. CN hyperlink visit. 可以说,IE7英文版对中文.CN域名的支持非常全面。It can be said that IE7 English to the Chinese. CN domain support is very comprehensive.

    作为信息产业部域名体系公告中的唯一中文顶级域名中文.CN,近年来随着“中文上网”呼声的高涨,受到了国际互联网组织ICANN、国际互联网标准组织I-ETF及中国政府的全面支持。Notice of Information Industry as the sole Chinese domain name system top-level domain name in Chinese. CN. With the "Chinese Internet" voice rising, the Internet organized by ICANN. I-ETF Internet Standards Organization and the Chinese government’s full support. 正是在这种良好的发展环境下,微软顺应IETF国际标准和中文.CN的发展大势,全面支持中文.CN。It is a good development environment, Microsoft IETF conform to international standards and Chinese. CN development trend, full support of the Chinese. CN. 据微软相关负责人透露,不仅IE7,在年底即将与IE7中文版本同时发布的VISTA操作系统将给予中文.CN更为全面的技术支持,届时任何基于VISTA操作系统的应用软件都能借助VISTA实现对中文.CN的支持。According to the relevant person in charge of Microsoft, not only IE7. IE7 at the end of the year and the upcoming release of the Chinese version of the Vista operating system will give Chinese. CN more comprehensive technical support. Any application software based on the Vista operating system will be able to use Vista to achieve Chinese. CN support.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews3.xinhuanet.com%2Ftech%2F2006-11%2F03%2Fcontent_5285097.htm&langpair=zh-CN%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools English

    http://news3.xinhuanet.com/tech/2006-11/03/content_5285097.htm Chinese

  155. Alica says:

    All right… anybody can tell me, when will Chinese localised versions of IE7 suppose to be released? Neither the previous article or this one mentioned it. I just need a monthly estimation.

  156. David Wrixon says:

    I am still trying to figure out the explanation about how software that is prevented from installing by a blocker can possibly cause conflicts with other software that is actually installed. Are you actually saying that a reminder from Microsoft that that there is an update for IE7 is sufficient to cause the collapse of the somebodies computer system, even though it is never installed? This really needs more explanation if anything that is said on this blog is going to be taken seriously.

  157. kanrisha says:

    Microsoft,

    Would you please put IE7 up on Japanese WU? My coworkers do not have installation privileges. So I spent the afternoon manually installing it on various systems around me. It is a waste of my time and energy. And I have yet to make it to the other floors.

    Tokyo, Japan

  158. David says:

    IE 7 should be cosigned to the scrap heap until it has been properly tested for windows XP home. I have spent untold hours trying to install IE 7 and numerous e.mails to and from MS support only to be advised by MS support to revert to IE 6 as they could not offer a solution! The antivirus and antispyware of ntl Netguard would not start. so I was left without protection for these.

    Also after downloading IE7 I found that it rendered my E drive inacpable ofupdating my back-up discs as all documents were now read only and and Word and Excell documents could not be updated.

    I have now reverted to IE6 but still have problems. I have had to download the antivirus and antispyware engines. Antivirus seems to be ok now but I am still trying to get the anti spyware to accept updates.

  159. joe says:

    As David Wrixon says,  When will the Spanish English version come out? Certainly some of us speak a form of Spanglish.  I would really like to see my own browser out.

  160. Kit says:

    Is it possible to install Japanese IE 7 on English Windows XP sp2?  I got error message something like ‘It is not compatible with the Operating System language’ error message when I tried to do so.  Does anyone know?