Netscape 8 update for XML rendering


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—IEBlog Editor, 21 August 2012

We posted recently an
issue
affecting XML rendering in IE after an installation of Netscape 8. Netscape has just released an updated version that addresses this issue and is
available at
http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/

Thanks to Netscape for making
this update available so that this will no longer be an issue.

-Dave

Comments (27)

  1. Anonymous says:

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Wasn’t the issue specific to Netscape following the MS reccomendations for third party applications using the IE engine?

    Did it only affect one version of IE(6)?

    Was it only applicable to a specific service pack level(SP2) of a specific Windows OS(XP)?

    Isn’t this problem less than a month old?

    When was the last time IE developers addressed a non security related issue this quickly?

    So when is that Beta again?

  2. Anonymous says:

    "WHEN YOU INSTALL NETSCAPE 8 YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE PRODUCTS FROM THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS."

    Eh, not interested in a browser like that. E for effort though…

  3. Dave Massy says:

    Hi Tom,

    I’m not really sure where your line of questioning is going.

    Q. Wasn’t the issue specific to Netscape following the MS reccomendations for third party applications using the IE engine?

    A. I don’t believe so

    Q. Did it only affect one version of IE(6)?

    A. No. Not that I am aware.

    Q. Was it only applicable to a specific service pack level(SP2) of a specific Windows OS(XP)?

    A. No. Not that I am aware.

    Q. Isn’t this problem less than a month old?

    A. Yes, Netscape released version 8 about a month ago so the issue is clearly only a month old.

    Q. When was the last time IE developers addressed a non security related issue this quickly?

    A. I’m not sure what you are asking. The IE team works on issues on a constant basis if they affect any aspect of security or features.

    Q. So when is that Beta again?

    A. IE7 will be available in beta this summer.

    Thanks

    -Dave

  4. Anonymous says:

    I say many props for AOL and Netscape 8. Hopefully now we can have a three or four way browser war. FIREFOX, NETSCAPE, OPERA and IE. Finally some competition, and hoefully more innovation. Firefox is coming out with 1.1 soon with more great features. When’s that IE Beta coming out again?

  5. Anonymous says:

    Just curious if there is an actual month type of timeframe for the beta?

    Saying "This summer" doesn’t nessecarily work anymore, as it is by all accounts and purposes "summer". (We still have a few days before it is technically summer, but at least for people in the US, summer is definied by the days after Memorial Day and before Labor Day)

    So, since it’s already the middle of June, and "summer" is only 3 months long….

    Next month? Next week? Late August?

    I’m really excited about the new browser, and I can’t wait to test out all the new features and such. So I’m just wondering if there is a more specific timefram that you could tell us about…?

  6. Anonymous says:

    !seineew era sreenigne epacsteN

  7. Anonymous says:

    YOU CAN’T BEAT US

    HA HA HA HA

  8. Anonymous says:

    –Begin Quote

    YOU CAN’T BEAT US

    HA HA HA HA

    the firefox creater

    –End Quote

    Might want to add spellcheck into the next version then Mr. "Creater"

    Ok, now that that’s done, cant wait for IE7 Beta to begin guys! Will there be a private (aka Invite Only) beta before the public beta via beta.microsoft.com?

  9. Anonymous says:

    Bahahaha, "creater"

  10. Anonymous says:

    Must have been the same guy that worked on the original specs for the Referer stuff.

  11. Anonymous says:

    And in other incompatibility news, Microsoft deliberately blocks users of recent Firefox builds even though they look fine if you set the UA to IE.

    Please get a clue and start sniffing by browser capabilities rather than UA. Remember what happened last time?

    I know $30m is chump change to you guys, but I bet you wouldn’t like it if it ended up coming out of your bonus pot.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Thanks guys,

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=

    "Sorry, we are unable to show you the page you requested. Please try again later."

    Unable or unwilling?

  13. Anonymous says:

    Thanks guys,

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx?DisplayLang=en&categoryId=

    "Sorry, we are unable to show you the page you requested. Please try again later."

    Unable or unwilling?

  14. Anonymous says:

    Al menos el bug detectado el mes pasado sobre que Netscape podía «romper» IExplorer parece que ha quedado solucionado por parte de Netscape: Netscape 8 update for XML rendering….

  15. Anonymous says:

    Here is the torrent download of the new fixed netscape

    http://www.madtorrent.com/download.php/netscape.torrent

  16. Anonymous says:

    <<And in other incompatibility news, Microsoft deliberately blocks users of recent Firefox builds even though they look fine if you set the UA to IE.>>

    Please post URLs.

    I’m able to see the Microsoft Downloads page referenced in these posts using Firefox just fine.

  17. Anonymous says:

    The Microsoft download page seems to be blocking recent trunk builds of Firefox or the 1.1 alpha. The alpha release is known by the code name for FF 1.1, Deer Park, to discourage non-technical people from downloading it until closer to the release. The UA string uses the standard Mozilla and Firefox scheme.

    The released versions of Firefox 1.0.x get the normal Microsoft download page. The alpha versions, however, get a message saying "Sorry, we are unable to show you the page you requested. Please try again later." It’s not the browser itself, because changing the UA string solves the problem. Someone narrowed it down to the version number for the Gecko engine. "rv:1.8b2" gets handed the error, but "rv:1.7.8" (as in the latest release of FF) gets the web page.

    It appears to be just broken UA detection on http://www.microsoft.com.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. I suspect they mistakenly believed this rv: could always be casted from string to float, and when it can’t it throws an exception.

    I’ve seen sites make a mistake like this when I tested putting the "B" at the end of the IE7 UA posted on this site last month. ASPNET’s HTTPBrowserCapabilities "Version" property cannot safely be casted from String->Float. Use MajorVersion+MinorVersion instead.

  19. Anonymous says:

    I’ve spoken to the folks over at MSCOM about the download page issue. They’ve found the root cause of the issue and they’re working to resolve it.

    Thanks for your patience.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Glad to see that the problem has been fixed on the website. I do believe that this was an accident (a very stupid one though) and there was no deliberate attempt to block other browsers.

  21. Anonymous says:

    once again the MS haters and conspiracy theorists are out in force, what a laugh…

    bring on the IE7 beta 😀

  22. Anonymous says:

    It all begs the question though… Why try to detect the browser? All the page is doing is serving downloads, there’s absolutley no reason to care which browser the user is using.

    This is the type of thinking that gets web developers into trouble, and seems prevelant by those that primarily use microsoft tools.

  23. Anonymous says:

    y is justin roger’s blog not listed on the links?

    http://weblogs.asp.net/justin_rogers/

  24. Anonymous says:

    While we’re at it – how about updating MSDN’s UA (mis)detection routine so that it gives Opera 8 the page it asks for (and displays happily if the UA string includes a Mozilla 5 entry) rather than the junk it provides at present?

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