More VS 2010 Beta Seats Available


OK, you asked for it.  We responded.

The absolute best that I can do is to open up 150 more seats for each exam.

Same beta codes.

Register now as this will be the only increase that will be authorized.

By the way, thanks for this awesome response in registering for these exams.  Best of luck to all of you!

Gerry

Comments (70)

  1. Scott says:

    You’re the man! I was able to call Prometric and get my test scheduled.

  2. gerryo says:

    Excellent, great news Scott!

    Gerry

  3. Sergejus says:

    Gerry,

    Do you have any plans to provide beta upgrade exams to .NET 4 from .NET 3.5?

  4. gerryo says:

    Sergejus,

    We do not create beta versions of upgrade exams.  The upgrade exams are comprised of content from the MCTS and MCPD exams that form a part of that upgrade track.

    As a result, the items will have already gone through the necessary beta form.

    Gerry

  5. DarthObiwan says:

    Huzzah! I was able to get in for the MCTS web and MCPD web. Looking forward to "upgrading" my MCPD Web 2.0 to 4.0

    Thanks Gerry

  6. Yogesh says:

    Gerry,

    Unfortunately I missed the opportunity to register 71-515 even after you have increased the seat limit. It tells me seat limit on this promo code is reached. It seems like Prometric is allowing me to register for this if I pay. Would it be legal if I pay to take this Beta exam. Please let me know.

    Regards,

    Yogesh

  7. gerryo says:

    Yogesh,

    Absolutely not.

    If a testing center is charging, I want to know about it.

    Once the cap is reached for an exam, there are no open seats at all, regardless of whether they charge or not.  Beta exams are 100% free, always.

    Gerry

  8. Yogesh says:

    Hi Gerry,

    It may be a programming glitch t prometric site. Here’s what happened: I selected the exam, selected the center and then on next page it asked me if I have promoc code. When I entered promo code it said limit reached and then prompted if I want to try another promo code, I said No and it took me to previous page and that page was letting me enter credit card info. But I wasn’t sure, so I checked back with you.

    It seems web exam 71-515 is very popular. Any chance of adding few more seats to just this one? Pretty please :-)

    Regards,

    Yogesh

  9. Jeroen Vos says:

    I managed to get a spot for the WCF 4.0 Beta exam. I was almost finished studying for the v3.5 version when i saw your blogpost about the Beta exams.

    So i basically need to learn what has changed in WCF 4.0. And everywhere i look, i come across AppFabric. Though in the Skills Measured section for the exam, it is never mentioned. Is AppFabric that separate from WCF that it is not needed for the exam, or is the skills measured section for the exam also still in Beta and therefor maybe not entirely thorough yet?

  10. gerryo says:

    Yogesh,

    Thanks for the follow up.  It sounds like the system is working ok.  I doubt you would have been able to get a seat for the exam even if you elected to pay.

    As for increasing the seat count, we already have once and I am not able to increase it anymore at this time.

    Gerry

  11. gerryo says:

    Jeroen,

    What you see on the exam prep guide is what will be on the exam.  Other than that, I can’t divulge much more without going into particulars.

    AppFabric is a part of Azure so verify the text you are reading to ensure that it pertains to WCF 4.0 core features.

    Gerry

  12. Nick says:

    Hello Gerry,

    I’m seeing the "Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Certification Paths" PDF and there is no MCPD in Enterprise Developer, like 3.5 or 2.0 carrers.

    Is there plans to create MCPD Enterprise Developer in 4.0 carrer?

  13. gerryo says:

    Hi Nick,

    There are no plans to create an MCPD Enterprise Developer 4 cert.

    Gerry

  14. Mark says:

    I have registerd for the 71-518 exam. Is there an additional list of objectives other than the "Skills Measured" for each of these exams?

    Thanks

  15. gerryo says:

    Hi Mark,

    The Skills Measured is the only list of objectives for the exams.

    Gerry

  16. Ashish says:

    I’m really looking forward to taking the MCTS exams on .NET 4… But the only problem is the unavailabilty of the MCTS Self-Paced Training Kits right now… Can you tell me when exactly the MCTS Training Kits become avaliable, so that i can prepare for getting myself certified? And, are there any plans for MCPD Self-Paced Training Kits on .NET 4 this time? (Just like the .NET 2.0 ones and unlike the .NET 3.5 MCPD)

  17. Ashish says:

    I plan on getting certified on .NET 4… The exams go live in July, but there is still no news about the release date for the MCTS Self-Paced Training Kits for the MCTS .NET 4 exams… Can you tell me when the Training Kits will become available? And, will this time there will be MCPD Self-Paced Training Kits like they released for the MCPD .NET 2.0 exams? (and unlike the MCPD .NET 3.5!)

  18. gerryo says:

    Ashish,

    At the moment, I am not able to get dates for availability for the Training Kits for these products.

    From discussions earlier on, there will not be training kits for MCPD certifications.

    Gerry

  19. Pallavi says:

    Can you let me know what technology does the MCTS Exam 70-511 cover exactly? WinForms or WPF? As far as i can see in the objectives, almost all the skills required pertain to WPF. Is it worth the time and efforts to study some WinForm topics too? And, can i use the official .net 3.5 training guides as prep guides for .net 4 exams in the meantime until the .net 4 guides become available?

    What other prep materials can you suggest?

  20. Ashish says:

    It is really disappointing to know that there wont be any MCPD Self-Paced Training Kits for .NET 4 certs… Why doesnt Microsoft recognise the fact that the MCPD exams require more preparation and guidance than the MCTS ones! C’mon Microsoft, plz release training materials for .net 4 MCPD!

  21. gerryo says:

    Hi Pallavi,

    The prep guide lists the topics covered on the exam.  That is the most detail that I can offer without divulging actual exam content.

    Use the prep guide’s Skills Measured section to identify the areas of focus.  As you can see, the majority of the focus is on WPF so I would recommend you focus on those areas listed.

    I would not recommend the TK for 70-505 for this exam but you could use the 70-502 TK for some prep on exam 70-511 but I strongly suggest you ensure you understand the new concepts and additions that have been added in .NET 4.

    Gerry

  22. gerryo says:

    Ashish,

    If you have read my posts before on this topic, you might realize what my position is on this.

    As for Microsoft Learning’s position, it comes down to a business decision.  Training Kits for MCPD certifications at this point do not make good business sense based on historical use.  I am not the Product Planner that makes these decisions so I am not the best to offer more rationale.

    As for my opinion, I don’t think we should create Training Kits for MCPD certifications.  If you have the requisite experience, you will be able to pass the exam.

    I have spoken to numerous folks at PDC and TechEd over the years, as well as those who help us create these exams.  The consensus is the same.  If you meet the audience profile, you won’t need study materials.

    Again, this is my opinion only and I fully understand that there are lots of candidates who prefer to have some form of exam prep to help ensure success on the exams.

    My recommendation is always to use the prep guide to ensure you understand the concepts that will be tested and use practice tests where available.

    Gerry

  23. Ygor says:

    Hello Gerry,

    I am a student from Brazil and I have the following doubts.

    There is a chance for a new 70-356 for VS 2010? I am studying like to know if I should wait for the new 70-356.

    Thank you very much!

  24. gerryo says:

    Hi Ygor,

    I believe you intended to write 70-536.  :-)

    The 70-536 exam will not be a requirement for .NET 4.  It will remain for .NET 3.5 and 2.0, but does not move forward and as a result, there will not be a new version.

    Gerry

  25. Latika says:

    It looks to me that the new .NET 4 MCTS exams have more objectives and in greater depths as compared to the .NET 3.5 MCTS exams… Is it because of the dis-continuation of the 70-536 exam or some other reasons? And what early prep material can i use to crack the exam once it goes live, any suggestions?

  26. gerryo says:

    Hi Latika,

    That is the intention because there is no foundational exam for .NET 4.

    As for the prep materials, there are no early prep materials at this time.

    Gerry

  27. Ravi says:

    Upon ugrading from Windows Developer 3.5 to Windows Developer 4, candidates also get MCTS certifications on WCF and ADO.NET… Now, MCTS on ADO.NET and WCF are not requirements for Windows Developer 3.5; so, dont you think its unfair for the candidates who should be taking the Windows Developer 4 path that they must pass MCTS ADO.NET and WCF exam?

  28. gerryo says:

    Ravi, thanks for your comments,

    Our rationale is simple.

    For MCTS, you can focus on the technologies you want.  However, for the MCPD, which indicates a professional developer, it’s imperative that you are able to utilize the technologies found in data access and services using WCF.

    When a candidate who is certified on .NET 3.5 upgrades to .NET 4, they will be tested on WCF and ADO.NET technologies along with the Windows Forms and WPF technologies as well.

    .NET 3.5 and .NET 4 are two seperate and different versions of the framework.  Also keep in mind that the way software development is moving, you must have an understanding of these technologies.  Windows Azure and other cloud technolgies are being utilized more and more in applications.

    Keep in mind as well that we do not have an Enterprise certification for .NET 4.  We did have for 3.5 and that certification required WCF and ADO.NET.

    In the latest certifications for .NET 4, candidate choose a platform they want to contentrate on, either Windows or Web.  Both MCPD certifications require the data access and WCF exams along with their own MCTS exam.  There is no enterprise developer in this round.

    You may be developing applications right now that don’t access data or don’t make use of services using WCF, but I doubt there are many.

    We have already vetted these decisions with subject matter experts from the industry and they all agree that these certifications make sense for the greatest number of applications being developed today and in the future.

    Gerry

  29. Eva says:

    Hello Gerry, I’m a student from UK and i want to know if the .NET 4 MCTS exam questions will be on a slightly more "tougher/difficult side" as compared to the .NET 3.5 ones. I see the syllabus have been quite broadened(that’s very good indeed! u get more knowledge and skill-sets while during preparation) but the only doubt that creeps in the mind is about the ‘standard’ of the exam questions… I’m starting to think that the new exams will be more difficult to pass… What do you say?

  30. gerryo says:

    Hi Eva,

    I apologize but I cannot discuss topics such as difficulty of questions about the exams.  

    The preparation guides list the topics that will be covered and if you understand those topics and can apply that knowledge, you should have no problem answering the questions.

    We validate the question difficulty with subject matter experts that help us determine if someone with the knowledge and qualifications listed in the audience profile would be able to answer the questions or not.

    Gerry

  31. Tom Dean says:

    Hi Gerry,

    Can you tell me if its worth the time and efforts to study some WinForms topics for MCTS 70-511 exam?

    And i remember reading one of your blogs a few months ago when you mentioned that four new exams for beginner developer/ college students are under planning… Can you tell me what those exams are and when they go live?

  32. gerryo says:

    Hi Tom,

    You’re going to hate me for my answers, sorry.

    I can only tell you to focus on what you see on the prep guide for the exam.  I cannot divulge anymore about the exam content than that.

    As for the other exams I mentioned, again, I am not able to say anymore than I did in the other post because we have not officialy launched those exams and the program yet.  I don’t own the new program or certifications so I can’t comment further on it.

    Gerry

  33. Tom Dean says:

    Its okay Gerry, i understand your and appreciate your commitment towards the standard, privacy and quality of Microsoft Certifications…

    And, i’ll surely focus on the exam prep guide from now…

    Thanks for your guidance Sir! :)

  34. Jörg says:

    Hello Gerry,

    i’m interested in (beta) certification about implementing and administering Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Team Foundation Server – like exam 70-510 (MOC6215A) for VS2008.

    Any hints are welcome.

    Thank you.

    Best regards

    Jörg

  35. Paul says:

    How about a few more seats? I put this on my calander for next month, thinking I could register untill the exam period meantioned in a previous post. I just checked today to see that people have already been registering but the extra seats are already gone!

  36. gerryo says:

    Jörg,

    What kind of hints are you looking for?

    Gerry

  37. Jörg says:

    Hello Gerry,

    general information, timeline and (if available) beta code for the TFS 2010 admin exam would be nice.

    Thank you.

    Best Regards

    Jörg

  38. gerryo says:

    Hi Jörg,

    There will not be a beta for this exam.  It is expected to launch around the end of June, 2010.

    Gerry

  39. Michael says:

    Gerry,

    timeline and (if available) beta code for the SharePoint 2010 exam would be nice.

    Michael

  40. Jake says:

    Now that the 70-536 exam has been discontinued for the .NET 4 certification track, i have doubts regarding future employers giving less importance to the .NET 4 certified MCTS individuals… I mean, we’ll have no proof of the "basic .NET skill set"…

    Will that make a difference Sir?

  41. gerryo says:

    Michael,

    I agree, it would be nice.   :-)

    Once I have it, it will be posted.

    No wine before its time.

    Gerry

  42. gerryo says:

    Jake,

    Not in my opnion it won’t.  

    The new exams imply .NET experience. I’ve said it before and I will reiterate here;

    The .NET Framework is HUGE with thousands of classes and pieces of functionality.  One exam cannot prove core competency in all the framework.  One that only proves partial competency is no better than one that proves none.

    Gerry

  43. Andi says:

    Timeout expired when trying to use the promo code… (tried for a while now)

  44. gerryo says:

    Hi Andi,

    That is an issue with the Prometric site.

    Please call the 800 number listed on that site for your location to register by phone.

    Gerry

  45. Nick says:

    Gerry O’Brien said:

    > One exam cannot prove core competency in all

    > the framework.  One that only proves partial

    > competency is no better than one that proves none.

    When I studied for 70-536 exam I got a good overview of parts of the framework I wouldn’t have known about otherwise. I don’t see passing the 70-356 as proof that one can design and write good .NET code. I think its role was as a good overview of things most developers are likely to use at some point, not to to prove in dept knowlege of, say, System.Net.Mail.

  46. gerryo says:

    Hi Nick,

    I agree.

    My comments are to those who think we should have one exam that covers the .NET core concepts.  536 does not do that currently, not to mention the fact that it covers some things developers may never use.

    Even the core concepts of the framework are still too large for one exam.

    Gerry

  47. Shubhrika says:

    Sir,

    The .NET Framework 4 exams are still ‘in development’… So, when they go live, is there a chance that there will be some changes in the current objectives? Or the ‘in development’ means the examination questions(testing) are under development??

    I want to take the MCTS .NET 4 exams when they go live[I’m from India, and so we cannot take the betas :-(]… I will start with the 70-511 exam… So, must i study the 70-536 training kit to become "fundamentally strong"? Plz suggest…

  48. gerryo says:

    Hi Shubhirka,

    ‘In development’ means that the exams are not at a stage where they can be released live.  It encompasses the design, item creation, review, beta, and score setting.

    The prep guide that you see online will not change. The final version of the exam will still map to those skills listed.

    As for studying the 70-536 training kit, the choice is yours but you must use the skills measured section of the prep guide to know which areas are covered on the exam.  70-536 only covers core .NET fundamentals and is not complete coverage of what exists in .NET 4 or exam 70-511.

    Gerry

  49. gerryo says:

    6303950

    In regards to the test centers charging, there should be no charge at all and I am having this looked into at the moment.

    Please be patient as this takes time.

    Also, I cannot publish the information you placed in your post, to a public forum such as this so your comments have to be moderated to protect the testing center IDs.

    Gerry

  50. gerryo says:

    Saurav,

    Discussion of exam content is not permitted and goes against the NDA you agreed to.  Your posting will be removed for this reason.

    Gerry

  51. Nick says:

    Gerry,

    Exam 71-519 crashes the prometric app. I got as far as answering all the questions, but was unable to continue and leave any comments. I assume the app gets confused because question 1 is not really a question but an instruction for the following questions.

    I am saying this because others will be taking this exam and prometric might take a while to fix the issue, judging by the fact that the test center admin was on hold for 30 minutes when trying to reach the prometric helpdesk.

  52. gerryo says:

    Nick,

    Thanks for the heads-up.

    Can you please send your feedback, if you can remember what specifics you wanted to leave, directly to me at gerrydotobrienatmicrosoft.com?

    I’ll also pass on the information to our Prometric liason for action.

    Gerry

  53. mike says:

    If I am an MCPD 3.5 Windows applications, then what do I need to take to upgrade to 4.0 MCPD?

  54. gerryo says:

    Mike,

    There will be two upgrade exams released around the time the MCTS and MCPD exams go live.  Take the upgrade exam and earn your MCPD and multiple MCTS exams at once for .NET 4.

    Gerry

  55. mike says:

    So, I will only have to take the Exam 70-521? If so, what certifications does that give me?

  56. gerryo says:

    Mike,

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-vstudio.aspx#tab2

    MCPD: Windows Developer 4

    MCTS: .NET Framework 4, Windows Applications

    MCTS: .NET Framework 4, Service Communication Applications

    MCTS: .NET Framework 4, Data Access

    Gerry

  57. Josh says:

    Is there any chance these exams will be available at TechEd?  

    There looks to be a lot of work going on to provide testing and training at TechEd.

    -Josh

  58. gerryo says:

    Hi Josh,

    Unfortunately no.  The timelines don’t match up.

    The beta period ends April 30 and the live versions won’t be in market until approx. June 28th.

    Gerry

  59. Jacob says:

    Gerry, this is a very important query –

    As per the Microsoft Certification Retirement Policy, the certs get retired when the product mainstream support ends. So, i just checked the Mainstream Support End-date for VS2005 and it says 4/12/2011… However, there is an extended support date 4/12/2016!

    So starting from which of the above two dates, the VS2005 certs are retiring? I’m confused, plz let me know…

  60. gerryo says:

    Hi Jacob,

    The current retirement date is set at 4/12/2011 for the exam.  It may change in the future but will be announced at least one year prior to the actual retirement.

    Gerry

  61. JQ says:

    Hi, there are seat for MOSS 2010 exam?

    Thanks!

  62. gerryo says:

    JQ,

    The SharePoint Server exams are not in beta yet.  May 5 is when the beta starts.

    I will post the invitations to my blog when they are ready.

    Gerry

  63. Geoff says:

    Hi Gerry,

    Any chance extending the 4.0 Beta exam end date.

    I would guess that there might be quite a few European beta exam takers who will not be able to make their exam due to the travel disruption caused by the Volcano in Iceland.

    I personally am unlikely to get back to the UK to take my exams as my flights have been cancelled and I need to wait for availbale flights.

    If you csnnot chsnge the end dste least realise a drop in attendence maybe due to an ‘act of God’.

    Thanks for your consideration,

    Geoff

  64. gerryo says:

    Hi Geoff,

    Sorry to say the dates will not be extended.

    We have almost 1000 registrations for each exam and we will reach the minimum numbers we require for our psychometric analysis of the betas.

    Gerry

  65. kastman says:

    Hi Gerry!

    I tried to take the beta exam today (TS:Windows Apps Dev w/Microsoft .NET Framework 4) but I encountered some problems. The testing center wanted to charge me for some kind of administrative fee.

    I thought that beta exams should be completely free? The testing center is in Sweden (Stockholm) and is named AddSkills. They are a Prometric test site. I have read in previous posts that this is not allowed. Can you take a look at this?

  66. gerryo says:

    Hi Kastman,

    I have forwarded this on to our account manager for Prometric for investigation.

    Test centers are not supposed to charge any fees for a beta exam however this issue needs to be resolved by Prometric and the local test center.  Microsoft doesn’t own the relationship between local test centers directly, we must work through Prometric to resolve these issues.

    Thanks for providing the notification so we can get this resolved.

    Gerry

  67. Duncan Watts says:

    Gerry,

    Now the exam period has passed, and I’ve taken all six of the exams, I’m keen to find out my results :)

    Do you have a date for when the results will be online?  Will we get a copy of the score sheets?  I got copies of the 3.5 beta exams posted out, but have yet to receive the score sheet for the wm6.5 dev exam I took.

    Thanks,

    Duncan

  68. gerryo says:

    Hi Duncan,

    During the opening screens of the exam I think the text usually indicates that you will receive a result for the exam in approximately 8 weeks.

    We will be doing the final item selection and standard setting for these exams starting next week.  This means the results are not far off but we have to set the passing score etc. and pass that information back to Prometric, who then handle the scoring portion and sending out the notifications.

    It’s been awhile since I looked at a beta score report so I don’t know if you get an actual score report now or just a pass/fail notification.

    Gerry

  69. Vossekop says:

    Its been well over 8 weeks since i took the exam and i still haven't seen any results. Should i be calling Prometric to see whats wrong? Or was there a delay on Microsofts end?

  70. Vineet Sharda says:

    Hello Brien

    I cleared the 71-515 exam. Thanks for keeping us all updated. I was wondering how many people took the exam?

    Thanks and regards

    Vineet