Self-Tracking Entities in the Entity Framework


One of the biggest pieces of feedback we received from the N-Tier Improvements for Entity Framework post as well as other sources was: “low level APIs are great, but where is the end-to-end architecture for N-tier and the Entity Framework?”.   This post outlines some of the additional feedback we’ve received and describes the self-tracking entities architecture that will ship along side of VisualStudio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0.

When an application goes multi-tier, there are important architectural decisions that the application developer makes around how to communicate between tiers. There are a lot of choices, and the choice depends on a variety of conditions. How rapidly is each tier expected to change? How much control is there over each tier? Are their specific protocol, security, or business policy concerns? The answers to these questions often drive the selection of whether to use data transfer objects (DTOs) or DataSets or something different altogether.

Self-Tracking Entities

Self-tracking entities know how to do their own change tracking regardless of which tier those changes are made on. As an architecture, self-tracking entities falls between DTOs and DataSets and includes some of the benefits of each.

Drawing from DataSet

DataSet on the client tier is very easy to use because there is no need to track changes separately or maintain any extra data structures that include change tracking information. DataSet takes care of serializing state information for each row of data. On the mid tier, applying the changes stored within a DataSet is straightforward. DataSets have also gained popularity because of the number of tools that work with DataSets, and because they are easily bound to many UI/presentation controls. Since it works in so many scenarios, for many applications there is never a need to transform data outside of a DataSet allowing a single paradigm to be used up and down the stack.

However, there are disadvantages to DataSets when used as the communication payload between tiers. The first is the cost of getting the data into a serializable format, and the second is that the DataSet serialization format is generally not very interoperable with other languages that are used to expose services. Another disadvantage of using a DataSet is that you can quickly lose the intent of your service call because so many kinds of things can be included in a DataSet. For example, if the service method is declared as:

DataSet GetCustomer(string id);

It is extra work to ensure that the DataSet that is returned contains only rows of data that pertain to “customers”. It is also more difficult to specify a service contract that says the DataSet is also supposed to return data for each customer’s orders and their order details.

Self-tracking entities share many advantages with DataSet. They also encapsulate change tracking information, which is serialized along with the data contained in the entity. On the mid-tier applying changes from a graph of self-tracking entities to a persistent context is equally straightforward. The Entity Framework will also provide tools for generating self-tracking entities and because these entities are just objects, they can be easily made to work with UI/presentation controls.

Drawing from DTOs

DTOs and SOA are used to give the developer more control over the service contract and payload for tier to tier communication. DTOs themselves do not have behavior, so they are typically very simple classes designed just to provide the needed information to perform a specific service operation. Not only does this provide the opportunity to optimize the wire format (some believe a DTO is all about the wire format), but it makes it possible and easy to capture the intent of each service method. The data contract used with DTOs is typically interoperable which makes it easy to use services that run on different platforms. DTOs also provide a way to separate messaging contracts from the presentation layer, the business logic, and the persistence layer which in many cases creates a maintainable architecture.

There are disadvantages to using DTOs and the primary one is complexity. DTOs are often hand-crafted to include only the specific information that is needed for an operation. When there is a common pattern for mapping DTOs to entity classes, there are some tools available that will do DTO generation and mapping but it is not always possible. With DTOs, it is up to the developer to decide how to do change tracking on each tier (especially the client) which increases the complexity of the presentation layer. The complexity of the service implementation also increases because the developer is responsible for translating the DTO into entities for doing business logic validation, as well as being able to report changes stored in the DTO to the persistence framework.

Not only do self-tracking entities share advantages with DataSets as mentioned above, they also share many advantages with DTOs. Self-tracking entities expose a simple and interoperable wire format and it is clear what kinds of data a service method requires or returns. You can also use a self-tracking entity as part of a message. However, self-tracking entities don’t give quite as much architectural separation as using pure DTOs, but you do gain a less complex solution that requires fewer data transformations. It is important to note that self-tracking entities can be made to be ignorant of any particular persistence framework making them essentially POCO objects. Particular persistence frameworks such as the Entity Framework will have the capabilities to create these entities and interpret the change tracking information when saving changes.

.NET Framework 3.5SP1 Challenge

With the .NET Framework 3.5SP1, this sort of solution was very hard to implement using the Entity Framework because change tracking was always done by a centralized ObjectContext which contains an ObjectStateManager. In particular, “reattaching” to report changes back to the ObjectStateManager was all but impossible without completely shredding your entity graph and applying changes one entity and one relationship at a time. The new API changes that are being added to the Entity Framework in .NET Framework 4.0 are enablers for an easier experience of reporting changes back to the ObjectStateManager, making self-tracking entities (as well as other architectures) easier to build.

Mid-tier experience

Using self-tracking entities on the mid-tier is about working with entity graphs and the Entity Framework. The service contract that is used in the following examples contains two simple methods for retrieving a Customer entity graph and applying updates to that entity graph:

interface ICustomerService
    Customer GetCustomer(string customerID);
    bool UpdateCustomer(Customer customer);

The implementation of the GetCustomer service method can be done using an Entity Framework ObjectContext and using LINQ or query builder methods to retrieve the entity you want. In the example below, a query is issued for a particular customer entity and all of the Orders and OrderDetails are included.

public Customer GetCustomer(string customerID)
    using (NorthwindEFContext context = new NorthwindEFContext())
        var result = context.Customers.
              Single(c => c.CustomerID == customerID);
        return result;

UpdateCustomer is example of how to save the changes that are made to a graph of self-tracking entities. Similar to DataSet, applying these changes to the persistence layer and saving them should be simple. In the below example, a new Entity Framework API, “ApplyChanges” is used which understands how to interpret the change tracking information that is stored by each entity and how to tell the ObjectContext’s ObjectStateManager about those changes.

public void UpdateCustomer(Customer customer)
    using (NorthwindEFContext context = new NorthwindEFContext())

Client Experience

The client experience when working with self-tracking entities is similar to how you would manipulate any object graph. You can make changes to scalar or complex properties, add or remove references, and add or remove from collections of related entities. The key part of the experience is that tracking changes is hidden from the client because it is done internally on each entity. There is no ObjectContext and there is no extra state that has to be maintained or passed from client to the tier that does persistence.

In this example, the test first queries for a customer, then deletes one of the orders. The resulting entity graph is sent back to the service tier using  the UpdateCustomer method.

public void DeleteObjectsTest()
    using (CustomerServiceClient client = new CustomerServiceClient())
        var customer = client.GetCustomer("ALFKI");

The next test shows how to add a new Order with two OrderDetails to an existing customer. By default, the constructor of a self-tracking entity puts the entity in the “Added” state. There are conveience methods on each self-tracking entity to change this state if needed (Delete() and SetUnchanged()).

public void AddObjectsTest()
    using (CustomerServiceClient client = new CustomerServiceClient())
        var customer = client.GetCustomer("ALFKI");
        customer.Orders.Add(new Order() { 
            OrderID = 100,
            OrderDetails = {
                new OrderDetail{
                     ProductID = 3,
                     Quantity = 7
                new OrderDetail{
                     ProductID = 4,
                     Quantity = 8

The final example shows that a self-tracking entity graph  can contain any number of changes and those changes can be any combination of adds, modifications, and deletes.

public void ComplexModificationsTest ()
    using (CustomerServiceClient client = new CustomerServiceClient())
        var cust = client.GetCustomer("ALFKI");
        // remove first order – will do cascade in the database
        // modify one of the orders
        var order = cust.Orders.Last();
        order.RequiredDate = DateTime.Now;
            new OrderDetail{
                ProductID = 7, 
                Quantity = 3 
       // add new order
        cust.Orders.Add(new Order()
            OrderID = 100,
            OrderDate = DateTime.Now,
            ShipCity = "Redmond",
            ShipAddress = "One Microsoft Way",
            ShipRegion = "WA",
            ShipPostalCode = "98052",
            OrderDetails = {
                new OrderDetail{
                    ProductID = 3,
                    Quantity = 7
                new OrderDetail
                    ProductID = 4,
                    Quantity = 8

Generating Self-Tracking Entities

Building self-tracking entities should be as easy as using them. We plan to ship a T4 template that will do the code generation for creating self-tracking entities from your EDM. This template will show up in the list of available templates when you right click on your model and choose Add New Artifact Generation Item.


Design Notes

Inside a Self-Tracking Entity

There have not been final decisions about what exactly will be included inside of a self-tracking entity, but it is important to track:

  • The state of the entity, Added, Deleted, Modified, or Unchanged
  • The original value from reference relationship properties
  • Adds and removes from collection relationship properties

This information will be included with the data contract of the entity. As part of the code generation of each self-tracking entity, scalar and complex property changes will mark the entity as “dirty” meaning that its state will change from Unchanged to Modified.

Inside ApplyChanges

ApplyChanges is a new API on the ObjectContext and ObjectSet classes that attaches an entity graph and interprets the change tracking information stored in each entity. The design  for discovering the change tracking information has not yet been finalized, but there are a couple of options available. One would be to code generate an interface as part of the T4 template for self-tracking entities as well as a version of ApplyChanges that knew about the interface. Another option would be fall back to runtime discovery of the particular properties using a convension and some of the new dynamic capabilities of the framework. The thing we want to avoid is causing the self-tracking entity implementation to have a dependency on any of the Entity Framework assemblies.

The algorithm that ApplyChanges uses is:

1.       Attaching the entity graph to the ObjectContext

2.       Changing the state of each entity using the ChangeObjectState API.

3.       For any reference relationship property, if there is an original value changing the state of the original reference relationship to Deleted and change the state of the current reference relationship to Added. This is done using the ChangeRelationshipState API.

4.       For any collection relationship property, use the ChangeRelationshipState API to mark any removed relationships as Deleted and to mark any added relationships as Added.


We’ve received a lot of feedback and suggestions on how to make developing multi-tier applications easier using the Entity Framework. One of the components of improving this experience is the introduction of an end-to-end architecture around self-tracking entities. We’d like to hear your feedback on this addition to the Entity Framework, and any other comments you have on the matter of multi-tier development using domain models and entities.

Jeff Derstadt,
Dev Lead, Entity Framework Team, Microsoft

This post is part of the transparent design exercise in the Entity Framework Team. To understand how it works and how your feedback will be used please look at this post.

Comments (73)

  1. Meta-Me says:

    Lots of the feedback we got on the EF design blog about our early N-Tier plans , highlighted that lots

  2. I’d like to turn your attention to two blog posts on EF Design Blog about exciting new features planned

  3. Johan says:

    Sounds great! Any plans for a beta/ctp?

  4. onemenny says:

    Sounds great to me too. This is the most important feature to me since working with the entityBag or any other solution led to a big BIG mess…

    although i didnt understand how the "self-track-entities" will integrate with poco 🙁

  5. KristoferA says:

    @onemenny , @jaroslaw how about making "self-tracking" an inheritable base class (for poco).



    public class MyEntity : ChangeTrackedEntity



      public int id { get;set;}


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  7. onemenny says:

    Kristofer – i think it better be an interface of some kind or a wrapper class (injection), since it can mess with your domain model…

  8. JasonBSteele says:

    Fantastic news!

    It seems to me that this would be best implemented in an interface. In that way it could be used more generally and even by other ORMs.

    It could be really handy for generic change logging?

  9. Marco Wolff says:

    This DTO’s with self tracking are not inherited by a special base class? This DTO’s for the client should know nothing about the framework they will persisted with.

    What is about a kind of client side-tracking collection? Kind of EntityBag? This collection knows all entities and tracks all changes client side. For updating the entities, this collection calls serveral service-functions for updating, saving and deleting.

    Also see

    Thank you,


  10. lynn eriksen says:

    Jeff, the scenario-based overview sounds great but I think a bit of elaboration is needed on how this would work with POCO.

    Based on what I have seen for the vNext release I would like to

    1)  poco entities that are self-tracking

    2)  shared library of these poco objects across tiers

    3)  use the new "agile" method of creating an object context using attributes instead of .edmx

    How would self-tracking entities work in this scenario?

  11. dsoltesz says:

    This is exactly what we need.  Looking forward to seeing this.

  12. James Hancock says:


    However we also need Validation capabilities

    And the ability to chain specific commands to Save.

    I.e. I have an invoice

    I need to validate the invoice, the invoice line items.

    This should not fail with an exception, but report the error and allow all data-bound objects to automatically report the errors.

    Further, once the invoice is saved, I need to check the state of the invoice. If it’s set to post, I then need to post the G/L entries for the invoice to the database.  This has to be done only on successful save, no where else.

    There should be events for all of these things in this model:

    Saving (CancelableEventArgs)


    If I had this, along with the ability to easily inherit from my own base class, I would be set (mostly)

  13. lynn eriksen says:

    @James Hancock

    James, I think a "ChangeInterceptor" similar to what is in data services would work for this.

  14. A couple of years ago I was involved in a couple of threads about doing change-tracking in client-side

  15. Jeff says:

    @onemenny, @kristofera

    We want self-tracking entities to be POCO entities in that they have no special dependency on the Entity Framework or any of its base classes. In .NET 3.5SP1 the only options you had were to derive your entities from our EntityObject class or to implement interfaces that are specific to the Entity Framework (IEntityWithRelationships, for example). That is decided not POCO because you are forced to have a dependency between your domain classes and the EF, which depending on your scenario may not be desirable. So having self-tracking entities require a base class or an interface that is part of the Entity Framework assembly would fall into the “not very POCO” category, and we want to avoid that.

    It is likely that we will have an interface for self-tracking entities, but the interface would exist as part of your code-generated template for self-tracking entities so the interface would be specific to the assembly containing your domain classes, not the EF assembly. However, that may not be POCO enough so we are exploring other options as well, including using some dynamic way of “discovering” certain properties on your entity that contain change tracking information. We could also look at different dependency injection techniques (such as dynamically generated proxies), but those can be very hard to deal with in serialization scenarios. I will follow-up with a post on what we can expect the entities to look like, but for now the important point is that we will not require an interface or base class that is part of the Entity Framework to use self-tracking entities.

  16. Jeff says:


    Our hope is that you’ll be able to accomplish those three things. Self-tracking entities do not have a dependency on the Entity Framework, so they are POCO in that way. However, there still needs to be logic in that class that can do the self-tracking bit. Our goal would be that this is simple enough to write and could be used with agile approaches, even ones where you may not have a model (or database) yet. If you already have a model, then you can use the T4 template that will generate self-tracking entities to get started.

  17. Jeff says:


    In the next release, the ObjectContext’s SaveChanges method will be virtual so you’ll be able to do this kind of validation in your ObjectContext class.

  18. lynn eriksen says:


    Jeff, looking forward to your follow on.

    For my two cents, anything you can make happen with the use of attributes is a plus.

  19. @lynn,

    One dilemma with using attributes is that the attribute classes need to be defined somewhere which causes a dependency issue…

    – Danny

  20. shawn says:

    I’d like to second James’ request for entity-specific partial methods or events when saving an entity.  Having "OnSaving" and "OnSaved" hooks to tie in logic when a single specific type of entity is saved and you want to take some additional action (like saving an audit record or recalculating a cached value) would be really useful.  Having the ability to hook in to this type of event for each entity class could be preferable to overriding the ObjectContext’s catch-all SaveChanges method to implement this type of entity-specific logic.  

    We’ve used the OnValidate method in Linq2Sql quite a bit and wish we had something similar for OnSaving and OnSaved to help complete the validation picture.

    Speaking of which, it could also be handy to be able to somehow get access to the current ObjectContext from within an entity.  So for example:

    OnValidate(EventArgs e) {

       // validate that the email isn’t already in use

       var existingCustomer = this.CurrentObjectContext.Customers.SingleOrDefault(o => o.Email == this.Email);

       if (existingCustomer != null) throw new ValidationException("A customer with that email already exists!");



    OnSaving(EventArgs e) {

       // add a log of this transaction

       e.ObjectContext.AuditLogs.Add(new blah);


    Perhaps if it isn’t possible from anywhere within an entity, it could at least be made accessible from the event/method arguments for certain things like validation.

    This would allow you full access to the database when an entity is validated or saved, which would be extremely useful in certain architectures.

  21. I need to do more reading to understand the new EF.

    Thanks MS for making the process more transparent.

    But as a LINQ 2 SQL guy, things like this scare me


    Why are there strings in Data Tier like this? this seems like a C#3 fail to me. Surely you can use lambda expressions to capture these includes and memoize them for speed.

  22. lynn eriksen says:

    @ Danny

    Understood about attributes.

    Since this is a major release release might it be possible to get a set of generic enough attributes for your purposes somewhere in the system dll, perhaps under System.ComponentModel or sub namespace?

  23. Diego Vega says:

    Vijay, we agree that lambda expressions could provide a nicer syntax for Include (although for multi-level paths, the lambda-based syntax becomes more complicated than the string version). In any case, at this point it doesn’t look like this improvement will make it in.NET 4.0. We appreciate your feedback.

  24. shawn says:


    That’s too bad, it would be really nice to have lambda-based syntax for Include.  I thought getting rid of "magic strings" and having compile-time checking of queries was one of the main purposes behind LINQ. 🙁

    I’m definitely another person who would love to see strongly typed Include statements make it in sooner rather than later.  It has always seemed out of place using strings there.

  25. Roger Rudin says:

    A change tracking mechanism would be very nice in Entity Framework but I venture to doubt that the solution of self tracking entities can solve the problem.

    Tracking properties on entities would be a good start, but who is responsible to set this properties?

    Self tracking entities must have behavior to track its change state.

    Can you tell me how this can work without shared library of these poco/self tracking entity objects across tiers when using a modern technology like webservices or wcf over metadata contracts.

    And whats about interoperability? How can a java client consuming a webservice and track the change state of the entities?

  26. Omari says:

    I think you should change name of the Delete method to MarkAsDeleted.

  27. Merle says:

    Based on my experience with EF on a real project it’s very good approach. One of the problems we were working hard to accomplish is dealing with long-living entities that has to leave for a few http requests. It’s not a good solution to keep EF context so long so we found workarounds here. Now it’s not a problem anymore.

    However, there is one question. If such entity is formally "detached" from the context how will the lazy loading (implicit or explicit) work? Based on your example with Include("Orders.OrderDetails") it looks like we will need to create the whole graph we are going to work with from the database. If it’s incorrect I can see 2 solutions:

    1) Implicit creation of the EF context and filling the navigation properties (then what about POCO?)

    2) Explicit passing the EF context to some sort of lazy loading method and using it

    Which way (or probably the third one) would you use to implement this?

    Thank you.

  28. Команда ADO.NET продолжает свой эксперимент по публичному проектированию следующей версии Entity Framework

  29. ManojR says:

    Will there be support for filtering entities while traversing relationships? (E.g. Ability to add lambda-based filtering for the Load method).

    Consider this Relationship:

    Customers -> Orders -> OrderDetails -> Products

    Use Case: Get all related entities for the following conditions: All customers in a particular zipcode; select their orders that were created within the last 6 months; For those orders, select only those order details with amount > $100; for these order details, select the corresponding products. (This filtering could be done in memory, but the data set size may be too prohibitive)

    In EF V1.0, there are a few ways to accomplish this, but they seem to either result in multiple trips to the database or involve multiple steps (fetch more data than needed and then remove them) or involves repeating all the conditions for each of the predecessors in the children’s LINQ queries (in one sense, the problem could be defined as trying to fetch related entities for objects already in the entity conext — applying additional filters and get related entities in one trip to the database per each related entity type) .

    The main explicit methods available in 1.0 for getting related entities are Include and Load. Both of them don’t seem to support additional filtering. I would prefer to get this filtering support added to either the Load method or to the child’s LINQ query. (the include method is less preferrable because of the use of strings).

  30. Eugene says:

    Interesting –

    I have a large project implemented using self tracking entities.  These entities travel between tiers using web services.  While its a viable solution, one pitfall that always comes up is that after doing an update, a new object comes down from server.  All references now need to be updated.  This becomes really challenging with data binding and events.  Events have to be non serialized, and you have to have compensating code to reconfigure events.

    I am intrigued by the RIA services solution to some of these problems.  I am sure there are some new pitfalls in that solution, but have you guys considered looking at it for ideas?  Especially since its a MSFT technology?

  31. Jeff says:


    For solutions using self-tracking entities, the entity definition itself contains information on what changes have been made. So the self-tracking entity definition must exist on both the client and the service. The entity definition does not contain any reference to a particular persistence framework; the change tracking information is something like a List<object> AddedRelationships, where “object” is an Order entity, or a Product entity, or some other entity that can be related. There is logic inside the self-tracking entity that records these changes automatically whenever properties change. The client can make changes to a property any way they want: directly, through data binding, etc., and each change triggers the self tracking entity to change state, or record a new or removed relationship.

    Self-tracking entities are also interoperable because there is a very clean WSDL description of each entity containing the current entity property values plus the change tracking information which is likely to consist of a state value (Add, Modified, etc.), as well as the state of various relationships to other entities (AddedRelationships: this with reference to O1). Java clients could produce a similar payload to send to services that accept self-tracking entities as part of their data contract. As with any interoperable solution, the non-.NET client would need to actually mimic that payload. One of our goals is to make the payload as clear as possible so that this can be done easily.

  32. Jeff says:


    The problem you describe is something that is not baked into the self-tracking entities pattern directly. The issue boils down to being able to effectively do identity resolution on your client for round tripping. This is needed for many operations and is especially important when “bulk refreshing” your data binding is not possible (or, as you said hooking p events). There are some other solutions we are thinking about, such as an evolution of EntityBag that give you this sort of capability. If you are interested I can give you more details here. We are also working with the RIA Services teams to make sure that entities work well with their client side change tracker.

  33. Jeff says:


    Lazy loading requires a way to inject knowledge of an active context into an entity. On the service tier this is possible because this is logically where you’d want to create contexts, query for entities, etc. When you define your self-tracking entities, our cue to turn on lazy loading is to make the navigation properties virtual (references and collections to related entities). You are correct that using lazy loading in a detached setting is difficult. This wouldn’t work on the client because in many cases you do not to create active contexts on this tier that provide a direct line of sight to your database. However, once you return the entity to the service tier, you can attach it to a context (context.Customers.Attach(…)) and perform lazy load. Are you asking about doing lazy load on the client?

  34. Merle says:


    > Are you asking about doing lazy load on the client?

    Not actually. It’s clear that it’s impossible to get the lazy loading work on the client when you don’t have the ObjectContext at all (except additional query to the server). I was asking about the server-side solution. I thought when you create the self-tracking entity it is automatically detached from the ObjectContext it was created with to avoid any side-effects and be a POCO object. Is it correct assumption? If it’s correct then it might be difficult to work with this entity using entity.Collection.Load() if you haven’t load it’s navigation collections when you get this entity from the context. That’s why I asked about the possibility to inject the different ObjectContext to the entity so it can be used to retrieve this data afterwords or some other solution you came up for this situation. Could you please tell me whether my assumption is correct and what would you suggest for such scenario? Thank you and keep up a great work!

  35. Eugene says:

    @Jeff –

    Thanks for the reply.  If you are willing to share more info on Entity Bags I would be interested in learning more.

    As for you analysis of my problem, I agree, its larger than just self tracking entities.  However, from the reading/playing that I have done, I think the RIA services team is delivering more than self tracking entities as well.  

    They are using code generation to create "client side" objects and then have some base classes that move data back and forth.  This means that the actual objects no longer need to travel back and forth, which makes the event hookup / data binding / reference updating easier.

    These client side objects do track their state though, and there can still be shared code between the client and the server to do validation and business rules.

    I guess it just seems to me like you guys are both implementing pieces of an ntier solution.  I think the 2 can plug in and play.


  36. Today I was looking at a post in the forums where someone asked a very natural and common question about

  37. Remi says:

    One quick question, while I’m wrapping my mind around this post…

    What is the distinction between "ApplyChanges" and "SaveChanges"?  Is it the difference between persisting to the model and persisting to the database?

  38. @Remi,

    Yes, the distinction between ApplyChanges and SaveChanges is something like that.  The context has an ObjectStateManager which keeps track of changes that need persisted to the database and provides that information to the rest of the EF.  Since the context and state manager don’t serialize with the entities, we need a way to push changes from the self-tracking entities into the context so that when you call SaveChanges the database will be updated.

    – Danny

  39. syl74 says:

    I agree that it looks like an other approach to ntiers solution than the one of RIA services team. I hope it’s not going to be like EntityFramework/LINQToSql competition !

    Questions :

    Is the RejectChanges() scenario will be supported by your SelfTrackableEntities ?

    Is the validation messages  will be also supported. TrackableEntities implementing IDataErrorInfo that read messages in the inherited tracking info datamember (filled by the server that has the business logic to apply the validation rules ) ?

    By the way, we really need a IDataErrorInfoEx that includes the notion of severity of the message (error/warning/info)

  40. syl74 says:

    For the include statement that should be in strongly typed Include statements instead of "string" we use the following solution :

  41. O último post do time do Entity Framework é bem interessante no contexto dos assuntos discutidos neste

  42. OtavioC says:

    I’d love a mix of DTOs and tracking. It can be one more option for the next version.

    DTO’s can protect us against errors at the client side, like updating a field that should be not reacheable in that context. That’s what OO is all about.


  43. Building applications that work across tiers is a core part of many application architectures. In .NET

  44. I received a mission to explore entity framework as a DAL for a new project, this project is intended

  45. Paul Marshall says:

    This framework sounds very similar to the CSLA.NET. Is this true?

  46. Jon Rista says:

    While I can see the usefulness of self-tracking entities in a pure Microsoft stack, what options to we have for managing change tracking in a true SOA environment with a hybrid of different technologies, including .NET, Java, AJAX calls from web clients, etc?

    Self-tracking entities are great when your always working with .NET on both sides of the wire…but more and more, the client tends to be something else…Java or Javascript/AJAX most frequently in my experience.

    Is our only option to attach the entity as fully changed, and save the whole thing? Or is there a more efficient option?

  47. @Jon,

    While self-tracking entities are aimed at making especially easy scenarios where .Net is available on the client, we have also been giving some thought to interop.  The intention is that the serialization XML for the entities (including the tracking information) will be very clear and easy to work with in other platforms.  You will have to write client code which does tracking and supplies the tracking info ina  compatible format, but that should be possible.

    We have been debating about just how much change tracking information to include.  Certainly we will include information about the state of each entity and about the relationships between them, but we originally thought we would avoid tracking exactly which properties of an entity were modified and instead just plan to send the whole entity to the database each time (very reasonable in many situations but not for some).  This is what you are likely to see in the first CTP of self-tracking entities, but we’re now leaning toward the idea that the long-term plan will be to include original values for properties in the change-tracking info so that only the modified properties would be sent to the database on a save.

    – Danny

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  49. This post runs through a simple demo of the new N-Tier focused APIs in the in ADO.Net Entity Framework bits (EF4) that are included in Beta 1 of Visual Studio 2010 / .Net Framework 4.0. For this d …

  50. Jon Rista says:

    @Dan Simmons,

    Thanks for the reply Dan. Good to know your trying to keep change tracking open. While I personally prefer to work in an entirely .NET stack, other individuals at a higher pay grade often take that decision out of my hands. I’ve been both lucky (expanding my horizons), and unlucky (having to deal with cross-platform implementation issues and complexity), enough to be working in a hybrid .NET/Java environment these days. So an open, simple format is good news.

    In response to something you mentioned in your reply, I am curious if you could expand upon it a bit more. If the intention with self-tracking is to provide a simple and open format that any client could use to transfer state-change details back to a service with…then the following statement confuses me a little:

    "This is what you are likely to see in the first CTP of self-tracking entities, but we’re now leaning toward the idea that the long-term plan will be to –> include original values for properties in the change-tracking info so that only the modified properties would be sent to the database on a save. <–"

    When it comes to…disconnected change tracking, is the concept of "original value" really useful, or is it just a waste of space and bandwidth? We have a full entity, and it will be tracking its own changes. I don’t think that knowing the original value as well as the current value matters as much as knowing that the value changed. Differentiating between the current value and a value that is being set, and not flipping that "changed" bit in the event the two values are equal, should be the responsibility of the self-tracking entity its elf (regardless of platform). Correct?

    We can bloat the self-tracking entity message schema to track original values, but it seems more logical to simply track a map of which values have changed. The end goal is to overwrite whatever value is in the database anyway, so the original value has no meaning. A change conflict could be detected by a database-level version (i.e. SQL Server rowversion/timestamp), thus preventing last-in-wins, correct? Is there something I am missing that would make original values useful in the self-tracking context?

  51. Jon Rista says:

    To expound a bit more on why I think tracking original values could be wasteful (because I’m sure some will say it wouldn’t be that much space/bandwidth.) I am thinking in the context of strings mostly. For example, if I have a Blog entity, which contains an author id, date posted, a list of tags (string, but generally small), and the contents of the blog post itself. Tracking original values for the author id, date, and tags really isn’t a huge deal. However, tracking the original value for the contents means I am likely doubling the size of my self-tracking entity message, when all I really need is to know that the contents did, indeed, change. A simple boolean along the lines of: &lt;changes&gt;&lt;property name="Body"/&gt;&lt;changes&gt; would do the job, and keep things compact. This goes for pretty much any large string value, which occur a lot in things like forum posts, product descriptions, email messages, blogs, digital newspapers (pretty much all text), etc.

    Sorry for not clarifying in my previous post.

  52. @Jon,

    Well, you are right that sometimes keeping around the original value is not nearly so interesting as just knowing that the column has changed.  

    It turns out that this is a rather tricky topic.  Sometimes we just want to know a column has changed (like your scenarios above where the original value isn’t interesting and the values are large so keeping the original value is wasteful), while other times we really do need to know the original value, and still other times we need the original value, but it’s very likely that anyone would change the value since it’s a server-generated rowversion or something so keeping the original value is a waste and we can just treat the current value as the original value.

    The tricky ones are the middle case (where we really need the original value), and they come up in two scenarios.  The first one is when you have a concurrency value that is determined on the client rather than the server.  In this case you need the original value to check for concurrency conflicts, but you also need the current value to set the property to if there isn’t a conflict.  This is unusual because it’s hard to do this correctly, usually you want the concurrency value to be automatically generated by the server.  The second case is a bit more obscure, but it is possible to create certain mappings where the value of a property can change how the entity is persisted to the database, and in these cases we need the original values so we know how to undo the old persistence and then do the new one–imagine for instance that depending on a value an entity might be persisted in part to one table or to another table.  If the value changed, then we would need to remove a row from the old location and add a row to the new one.

    It is possible for us to determine most if not all of this information at code generation time from the metadata, so we could generate classes that are more precise in the way that they handle original values to sometimes store them and other times just store a bit indicating that something has changed, but then we start getting into cases where interoperability becomes harder because the wire format becomes more complex.  Until now we have favored either going the route of never storing original values which makes for a simple, efficient wire format and simple client classes but rules out some mapping scenarious and can produce less efficient database updates, or always toring original values which still keeps the wire format and client classes relatively simple, and allows for efficient database updates, but makes the wire format less efficient.

    Neither of the options seems perfect, but it may be that one or the other is best in light of trying to keep the wire format simple.  It’s always possible to take our self-tracking template and modify it for more specific needs or to avoid code gen altogether and write DTO classes by hand to handle n-tier for those cases where you need the most flexibility and efficiency for a particular sceanrio.

    – Danny

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  54. Jon Rista says:


    Thanks for the clarification. It definitely sounds like a more complex issue that it appears at first glance. I think message efficiency is a very critical factor, especially considering some of the scenarios I mentioned (which, if the "always use original values" route is taken, could effectively halve the overall message throughput in those scenarios.)

    I think flexibility is key here…and if there is anything we have all learned from EF v1.0, its that the community needs a great breadth of flexibility to accommodate existing needs. It may make the wire format a bit more complex, but I think neither option 1 (never use original values) nor option 2 (always use original values) is going to be sufficient to meet the needs of everyone involved (including the EF team, who needs to support as many mapping scenarios as possible.)

    While I love to use simple formats whenever possible, if a little added complexity will give me the ability to tune my efficiency, I’ll take that complexity every time. Limiting my options and not giving me the ability to tweak and tune (i.e. go from just using simple flags to a hybrid of flags and original values where required) is a sure-fire way to make me abandon the rigid, inflexible framework in favor of a more flexible one, or build something in-house that meets my needs.

  55. Jon says:

    Code generation has been mentioned several times. I’m wondering if it is still expected that you are generating your data model from an existing database, or, is model first supported? i.e. I want to define my database by defining classes and then generating the database from that, a la Hibernate. Is this something that can be done in a pain free way, or, will I be going against the grain and having to implement a lot of methods needed by EF manually?

  56. Jon Rista says:

    @Jon: I think the following entry from this blog will answer your questions:

  57. VS2010学习 says:

    Introduction My blog has been feeling very neglected after my move to the US and I thought with the recent

  58. Ben says:


    Is there any release date for the self tracking entities T4 template, or any preview of it?


  59. @Ben,

    We don’t yet have an official release date, but I can help you narrow it down a bit.  It’s getting close, but it won’t be for a few weeks yet.

    – Danny

  60. VS2010学习 says:

    &#160; Entity Framework 4.0 Beta 1(又称EF V2)与 .NET 4.0 Beta 1 一起发布,包含了一系列的重要改进:自定义代码生成、延迟加载、N层支持、POCO支持

  61. Graham Hay says:

    This looks like it should solve one of the issues that I have had to handle in my code, but there are a couple of points that I would like to clarify.

    As these are self-tracking entities, am I right in thinking that the query in GetCustomer should be a MergeOption.NoTracking query or alternatively that the entity graph needs to be detached manually ?

    If I recall correctly (I don’t use NoTracking myself), NoTracking queries do not perform identity resolution (and hence there is a possibility of duplicate entities) and also they do not populate EntityReference EntityKey values that are not Included.

    Also, am I right that Detaching an entity detaches only that entity and drops all the navigation properties ?

  62. divega says:


    Your recollection of the behavior of NoTracking queries and Detach is correct.

    Self Tracking Entities, in fact, do not make use of either, at least in mainline scenarios. Instead, it is the work of serialization to create a snapshot of the full graph of tracked entities.

    Hope this answers your question,


  63. Graham Hay says:

    Thanks Diego,

    just to confirm, are you saying that entities can be both self-tracking and attached to an object context ?

  64. cowgaR says:

    awesome, I’m just in the middle of the artcile but so excited 🙂 so I have just one question…

    why woudn’t I want to use self-tracking entities, when it is so coool?

    no more UOW problems and referencing it via many tiers with problems where to store it (session) for entities to be reatached later and many other problems than other mappers face…

    here, I can code as Conan the Barbarian style, "opening the connection", e.g. "using" Context just when I want to store final entity, and that’s it.

    I don’t need to have it opened all the time, e.g. without "using ctx = …" I can’t do any work right now.

    Unless I am missing something this sounds too easy to be real 🙂 must be some drawbacks

  65. Storing the original values also allows you to handle concurrency issues.  So if two users update the same Contact record, the last should fail with something like a RecordChangedByAnotherUser exception.

    It would be nice if EF allowed you to specify the WHERE clause for the update.  So for example, typically

    UPDATE contact SET name=:name WHERE id=:id

    what is really needed for concurrency is:

    UPDATE contact SET name=:name WHERE id=:id AND lastModified=:lastModified

    The Borland ClientDataSet had an option for this:

    – UpdateWhereKey – only use the Pk

    – UpdateWhereAll – put all the old values in the where

    – UpdateWhereChanged – only put changed fields in the where.  I don’t particularly like this, because two simultaneous updates could occur producing a result that actually violates business rules.

    – UpdateSpecify – specify the set of fields to include in the where.

  66. Ryan Riley says:

    I am with cowgaR. Am I missing something? Also, what is wrong with IEditableObject as the interface?

  67. Fredrik Knutson says:

    I agree with Vijay Santhanam and ManojR. Support for filtering when doing Load or Include is one of the things we really missed in EF v1.

    How do you recommend one solves such filtering problems?

  68. anonymouscoder says:

    Thanks for writing this article.

    I must admit, overall I am quite disappointed with Microsoft and in particular the EF group within Microsoft for not releasing more documentation that demonstrates how to use the EF in common ntier development models.  I have been searching Google and Bing for months now, since the release of VS2010, and almost all of the articles I find are for old versions of the entity framework.

    Why are no articles being written?  Are too few people adopting the EF?  I stick with ADO.NET for my projects simply because it is well documented and proven.  EF??  Even the team behind it doesn't seem to do a good job promoting it!  What kind of a future can it have??

    All of my excitement over the EF has been turned into disappointment.

  69. Seb says:

    please fix broken links in this rather fundamental blog (e.g. 3rd and 4th link)…


  70. Dipen says:

    How to handle IEditable Interace for Reference data type

  71. Eduardo Inácio says:

    @acesdesign I think the following entry from this blog will answer your questions

  72. Waqas Ali says:

    Nice tutorial on Self-Tracking Entities. It help me to understand it how it works. Thanks a lot for useful info.


  73. Triny says:

    Great article, you can also check this 2 parts article on SQL Server Change tracking , Part 1 –

    and Part 2