Visual Studio 2005 Express October Community Tech Preview now available


The October Community Tech Previews for Express are now up on MSDN for download. Before you do anything, read the readme and remember that Community Tech Previews are *not*, *not*, *not* high quality builds and will probably be in worse condition then Express Beta 1. Lots of things won’t work, and we’ve also added some new stuff including: 

  • Edit and Continue for C# Express. You’ll have to do some workarounds to get this working (see below)
  • ClickOnce deployment for all Express products, but be warned that it doesn’t work in this build :)

I’ll blog more about the changes tomorrow, in the meantime spin up a differencing image on your VPC and take the CTP for a whirl. As always tell us what you think.

Below is the snippet on C# Express from the CTP readme:

C# Express  

“Edit and Continue” is now available in C# with the following known issues:

  • Making an edit that results in no change (i.e. inside a #ifdef’d out region) can cause the IDE to crash.
  • The Instruction Pointer (yellow arrow) can in some cases be placed incorrectly after stepping when an exception has been thrown.

Issue: If you are working with code built from the Windows Forms Template (and a few others), you may not be able to do EnC at all.

Workaround:

Remove the “= null” initializer of the components field in the .designer.cs file as follows:

private System.ComponentModel.IContainer components = null;

should become: private System.ComponentModel.IContainer components;

New Start Page: It is not enabled by default in this build. See known issues for a work-around.
ClickOnce is added to the Express SKUs: However, it does not work in this build.
New Community Menu: A few new features around community interaction.
New Local Data Wizards: Try connecting to your SQL Server Express database files using the new wizard.
Fewer Refactorings: To simplify the C# Express user experience, a few of the refactorings have been removed.
Start page doesn’t show correctly:To see the new start page use Tools -> Options. Then “Show All Settings”. Then Environment -> Startup. And set “At startup: ” to “Show Start Page”.
ScreenSaver Starter Kit won’t load.

Comments (19)

  1. Kevin Daly says:

    Um, you mean people actually asked for fewer refactorings?

    Gosh.

    Would it help if there was a configuration option somewhere to make them available for those who can handle it?

  2. Hey Kevin,

    Good feedback, can you add your suggestion to the MSDN Product Feedback Center – http://msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/

    We track every suggestion, and if other people think it’s the right thing to do and we *can* make the change, then we’ll change it.

    Thanks

    -Dan

  3. Sam Gentile says:

    Please see my link for my feedback.

  4. Bjoern Graf says:

    Are the full downloads available, too?

  5. Bjoern,

    Great question. I say this because I was surprised at the answer and had to check on this. :)

    The October Community Tech Preview only includes the Express products. We are not releasing a full version of Visual Studio for the October CTP.

    Thanks,

    -Dan

  6. Bjoern Graf says:

    Oh, that’s what you get when you ask in a decaffeinated state :) Anyway, while that is interesting nonetheless, I meant the full downloads as in non-web based setups, e.g. download once, install on many :)

  7. Bjoern,

    Ah, okay, different question. Both are good questions though :)

    For the CTP, the answer is no, we won’t have the full download of Express available.

    We will likely have a full download option available for Beta 2 and will definitely have one for RTM.

    Thanks,

    -Dan

  8. George says:

    Dan,

    I found the "full" downloads (I think) by going to the "Having Trouble Downloading" section for Visual C# Express. You can get the full downloads for all the 2005 pieces there.

    That said, I cannot get the most recent beta of the 2.0 Frameworks to install. About 1/2 way through I get an error dialog which states: "Error occurred while initializing fusion. Fusion could not load fusion with LoadLibraryShim(). This occurs when installing Microsoft.VisualBasic.Vsa.dll.

    This all started after my installation of the new CTP of Visual C# Express failed because I didn’t uninstall its predecesor.

  9. Hey George,

    Check the readme for the CTP because you do need to uninstall the beta first. Also, just for clarity, you are correct that we do have full or manual downloads available, but they are for Beta 1 only. We do not have a full or manual download available for the Express CTP. The only way to install the Express CTP is to go through the Web installer.

    I hope this helps,

    -Dan

  10. VS 2005 CTP Oct 2004 full ってないんですね。。。しょぼーん

  11. George says:

    Dan,

    Thanks for the clarification on the "full" downloads.

    As for my other problem, I have to give big props to System Restore! I restored my system to the pre-CTP install and was able to go bach and do everything right.

  12. Sankar.B says:

    Im unable to download until direct download is provided. When will Beta 2 Express will be available ?

  13. Kevin says:

    What should the version number be for web developer for the CTP? In my "About VWD", I’m showing Version 8.0.41013.0. But it also says on this same screen "Community Tech Preview May 2004".

    Also, how do you check what version you have for Sql Express? I downloaded the SE CTP but when I downloaded the web install for VWD CTP, it asked if I wanted to install SQL Express. I said yes. Does this mean I now also have the SQL Express CTP?

    Thanks

  14. Sankar – We don’t have a definitive date for Beta 2, or at least one that I know of, but I believe we’ve said early next year. I know, that’s pretty vague, but that’s about all I know right now.

  15. Mervin Fernandes says:

    Cool Absolute Magic . Microsoft is creating magic in Programming Sector. So Easy to Use with Good Controls in 2005 Editions . Long Live Microsoft

  16. ANDRIAMIALY Yves Ando says:

    I want to developpe with visual basic