MDNUG: Melbourne MS Developer Group – Meeting Review – 24 August 2004

Last night we had the monthly MDNUG meeting at Microsoft’s offices in Melbourne.

Thank-you everyone for an excellent meeting. A special thank-you to Jill Martindale for hosting the meeting, Brett for his impromptu talk on TechEd 2004, Todd Mitchell for his thoughts on WSE 2 and Reflector, Will for his list of links and information about blogging, Adrian for his information about Reflector plugins, Matt Cosier for his AU TechEd 2004 photos, and to the ten people that gave us a one minute ‘Who am I?’ talk.


We had about 40 people present last night and did some ‘hands up polling’. Here are the (very) approximate results:

‘What do you do?’ Statistics

Mostly C# developers – 15

Mostly VB developers – 10


Mostly ASP.Net developers – 15

Mostly Win forms developers – 15

Mostly Back-end developers – 10


‘Why didn’t you attend TechEd?’ Statistics

Attended – 1

Didn’t attend – 39

Couldn’t afford the cost – 10

Couldn’t afford the time – 4

Time and cost – 5

Not interested – 6

Topics too wide in focus – 3

Would have gone if it was MSDN/Developer specific – 4


Further Information About Topics

Please see William Luu’s list and the addition list of links below for further information on the topics we discussed:


‘Top Ten .Net Developer Tools’ List


Developer Education/Information Videos

The Indigo building tour video –

TheServerSide.Net tech talks –

Microsoft Reality TV – MSDN’s Channel 9 –

Channel 9 Videos via RSS –


Enterprise Developer News and Information


Object Relational Mappers

NHibernate –

OJB.Net –

WinFS (Longhorn) –


Data Access Layer Generators


CodeSmith – (See also:


WSE 2.0

WSE 2 Home –

DotNetRocks on WSE 2 –

MS RD Benjamin Mitchell –

MS RD John Bristowe –

WSE 2 Trace Tool –

Mitch Denny on WSE 2 –


Reflector Plugins

Dump to files –

Reflector graph –



Microsoft Business Framework (for Paul) – and

NUnit (Unit Testing) –

Australian .Net Mailing List – To Subscribe: send “subscribe dotnet <Your Name>” in the body of an email to: imailsrv at


Next month’s meeting will be on the 28th of September. See you all there!


Update: added links to Will’s meeting write-up.

Comments (3)

  1. Hi Chris, thanks for the write-up on the meetings. I’ve been trying to do the same with the Melbourne SQL Server SIG (it didn’t happen this month though).

    It’s good to keep an eye on the MDNUG meetings even if I don’t attend them…I’ve allowed myself one meeting a month, with support from my boss (a car, time off from work) and at the moment the SQL Server SIG is it. Cheers!

  2. Frans Bouma says:

    "LLBLGen –;

    That’s LLBLGen Pro’s URL, which is an O/R mapper 🙂 LLBLGen 1.x is a dal generator. It’s URL is: -> llblgen section. 🙂

  3. Chris Garty says:

    Sorry Frans. I did indeed get them mixed up. Thanks for clarifying and providing the additional link!