Interesting Links (March 13 2008)

Comments (13)

  1. Anonymous Coward says:

    One more interesting link, wonder how you could miss that one:

    * Microsoft’s Open Specification Promise: No Assurance for GPL. Statement by Software Freedom Law Center.

  2. says:

    I didn’t actually feel like that was all too interesting of a link. It’s just a rehash of all the points that have been proven false over the past couple years. Gray does actually link to it though in case you are interested:

    Easiest way to spread fear… raise IP as an issue. It’s one of the old tricks that the anti-OpenXML folks have been using for awhile now.


  3. Buff Swami says:

    Anon. Coward, the GPL is a licence that enforces a specific ethical viewpoint. It’s quite possible for something to meet the commonly understood criteria of "open standard", and yet still be imcompatible with that viewpoint.

    E.g. If you choose to be a vegetarian, don’t complain that free burger week at McDonald’s is discriminating against you.

  4. blah says:

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  5. Rob Brown says:

    "Easiest way to spread fear… raise IP as an issue. It’s one of the old tricks that the Microsoft folks have been using for awhile now".

    Steve Ballmer, 2001:

    Steve Ballmer, 2004:

    Steve Ballmer, 2006:

    Steve Ballmer, 2007:

    There have been endless calls for Microsoft to reveal the specific IP issues involved, so that  good-faith efforts can be made to resolve those issues. However, those calls have fallen on deaf ears. A couple of examples:

    Brian, with regard to accusations of FUD, you are a person living in a glass house.

    By the way, it seems to me that the Microsoft meme this week is attacking the (vaguely defined) "anti-OpenXML" people. I’m idly wondering why this change of direction has occurred.

  6. Rob Brown says:

    Hi Brian,

    Very interesting post there from blah. I presume that you have that person’s IP address, and can ban them or (if necessary) report them to relevant authorities?

    I’d respectfully suggest that you delete posts like that. Does anyone really need to see them? Surely everyone will already know that with a polarising subject like OOXML, there will be the odd freak that says stupid stuff like "Have a painful death".

    Now, my paranoia is definitely working overtime here, and I do admit that I’ve lost my tinfoil hat, but I’ve seen "campaigns" before where loony posts like that were used as PR fodder ("Look! The anti-OOXML crowd are a bunch of freaks!" "Argh! The un-lawful, un-god-fearing anti-OOXML crowd are sending me death threats!").

    Please, if you’re considering something like that, Just Say No.

    And if I’m really way off beam here, feel free to just delete this post, with no hard feelings.

  7. says:


    No clue whether or not I have the IP address, but I’m sure whoever wrote that didn’t mean it (at least I hope not).

    On a side note though, you really have to take the tin foil hat off man. It will be impossible to have any productive discussions if you’re level of trust is so low you would think that was a tactic to discredit the oposition. The anti-OpenXML folks don’t need any help from me in that area 🙂

    (semi-kidding there of course)


  8. Rob Brown says:

    Hi Brian,

    Thanks for the reassurance! My comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but believe me, it’s all been done before.

    By the way, I note this post was written on March 13, 2009. Since you’re a year ahead of everyone else, could you please let us know… what was the DIS29500 final vote outcome? 😉

  9. says:

    Oops (fixed now) 🙂

    In 2009 document formats go back to being a boring subject for folks in the blogsphere, and I get stuck posting links to blog posts from the previous year. 🙂


  10. Buff Swami says:

    Brain, should ISO approve OOXML, you’ll never hear the end of it. Should ISO not approve OOXML, you’ll never hear the end if it.

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