Introducing the Photos app for Windows 8


Wrapping up our series of posts on some of the new apps in Windows 8, we take a look at the new Photos app.  With this app, along with Metro style design principles, we set out to design an app that allows you to bring together photos from many different sources and to then view and share them.  Brad Weed, a group program manager in the Windows Live team authored this post.  –Steven


 

We take a lot of photos that end up in a lot of different places. Some are on our PCs, others end up on a photo sharing service like Flickr or Facebook, and even more are on our phones—sometimes indefinitely. How and where we store and share photos has changed and will continue to change as we take more photos, buy more devices, and share to more places with more people. What we need is one place where we can see, relive, enjoy, share, and immerse ourselves in all of them, all in one place.

All of your memories in one place

For the Windows 8 Consumer Preview we released an App Preview of the Photos app that introduced a new way to enjoy more of your photos. We realize the myriad places you have to go to see all of your photos, so we decided to bring them all to you in one place. Because you can connect your Microsoft account to services like Facebook and Flickr, you can get to all of your photos and all of those memories just by signing in to Windows 8 with your Microsoft account. Of course, the Photos app works best with our SkyDrive service, and with Windows Phone, you can automatically send all the pictures from your Phone to SkyDrive. This makes the Photos app in Windows 8 a great way to show off your photos without having to huddle around a phone. Even though you took your photos on your phone, you can easily enjoy them on your PC, just about as fast as you can take them.

Tell beautiful stories

Because Windows 8 is optimized for a landscape orientation, we designed the Photos app in the same way—to give you a view that tells the story best.

Photo of 2 kids and photo of a husband and wife, both in the album Summer Vacation.

Our storyline view shows a photo just big enough to enjoy, but small enough to see more than one at a time. If you want to see more of your pictures at once, just pinch to zoom out, and you’ll see a thumbnail view of your collection.

29 smaller pictures of a family on summer vacation

But notice: the thumbnail view isn’t just all of your photos cropped and displayed as square thumbnails. We show your thumbnails in the way that best represents the orientation of the photo.

And of course, the best way to view a photo is in its full glory, so naturally, you can also view a single photo at a time.

Picture of kids on a beach

And if you don’t want to swipe through your pictures to see them one or a few at a time, launch the slide show and sit back and enjoy. Better yet, use the Windows 8 Devices charm to play your slide show on your TV or any other Windows certified Play To device. Of course, this works for video as well, so you can also show off your latest Movie Maker creations this way, too.

A tablet PC playing pictures to a wide-screen TV monitor.

New enhancements for Windows 8 Release Preview

Photos from all of your devices

Since the Consumer Preview, we’ve been listening to the feedback and have been hard at work making improvements. We’ve heard from many of you that most of your photos aren’t actually sitting on a web service, but they’re on a PC somewhere in your home. And often they’re on a PC that isn’t convenient to get to or in a spot conducive to gathering your dinner guests around the monitor for “show and tell.” So we’ve partnered with our friends in SkyDrive to make this a whole lot easier. Now, if you install the SkyDrive desktop app, you can choose to have all of your photos automatically sent and saved to SkyDrive. Any PC with the SkyDrive desktop app installed will show up in the Photos app. So by simply running SkyDrive desktop app on the PC(s) where all your photos reside, the Photos app will reach back to that PC so that you can look at your old photos alongside your recent ones. You’ll soon be revisiting photos you forgot you had.

4 photos displayed from an album stored on another PC

Import

If you want to use your new Windows 8 PC as the primary place to store all of your photos, we’ve also added the ability to import with the Photos app.

Selecting photos and videos to import from a USB drive.

When you plug your camera in to your PC, all you have to do is pick the Photos app as your importer, and we’ll take care of the rest. You don’t need any additional cables, and the quality of your photos will not be diminished. After you import your photos, if you don’t have time to organize them, don’t worry. All of your photos can always be viewed by date, so it’s easy to browse through large collections of photos.

New home screen

The Photos app should scream “photos,” so we’ve added an edge-to-edge photo that appears in the background on the home screen of the app. When you open the Photos app for the first time, you’ll see a nice photo there, but you can change it to whatever photo you want, so it’s one of your own. It is a personal computer after all.

Background image of metal sculpture against blue sky. On top of this image are thumbnails that represent additonal photos in the Pictures Library, SkyDrive, Facebook, and Kitchen-PC.

Sharing your memories

All of the rich views in the Photos app are especially helpful when you’re ready to share or print your photos. Now, when you go to pick your favorite photo for your Windows 8 lock screen, or you want to share that perfect photo using the Share charm, you can grab a photo from Facebook, Flickr, SkyDrive, or any PC with the SkyDrive desktop app installed–all using the Photos app as a picker.

Selecting pictures from the Pictures library

Sometimes you stumble across a series of photos that you’d like to share while just browsing around. The Photos app makes it easy to select a set of photos, and use the Share charm to share in Mail, and off they go either as basic attachments or by sending a link to a slides show hosted on SkyDrive instead. Using SkyDrive allows you to send a lot of photos without having to worry about file size limitations.

Photos app with Summer Vacation album, and  a an email compose message window appears across the right half of screen. The message being composed contains thumbnails of the images in the album.

Over the years we’ve all imported, shared, and saved photos to myriad SD cards, hard drives, and Internet services. It’s rare that we ever go back and relive those memories, because they’re in so many places that it’s become too onerous. The Photos app lets you see the last photo you took on your Windows Phone, or the very first photo you shot with your very first digital camera. We’ve taken a lot of photos and videos in our lives and we’re only going to take more. The Photos app not only brings all of those memories back, but it puts them in the palm of your hand.

Keep the feedback coming. We know there’s a lot more to do. Until then, sit back and enjoy the photos you forgot you had.

Brad Weed
Group Program Manager, Windows Photos and Videos


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Comments (243)

  1. Matthias says:

    I LOVE the photo app. It's pretty pretty cool to see all my stuff from different platforms consolidated in one app!

    ~Matthias

  2. Dmatrix says:

    Awesome!

  3. Omega Ra says:

    what about a photo editing app?

  4. Great app! Just a little note. When you remove a folder from the photos app in the Release Preview, then the pictures are still available as Live-tile picture. Fix that please!

  5. ceesar says:

    I hear there are no plans to support network locations – such as Photos stored on a Windows Home Server. My multi-10GBs of photos are stored on a WHS machine (where they are backed up, with back-ups of the backups for data security). The Skydrive desktop app does not install on my WHS machine (and frankly, this is a clunky solution anyway).

    When can we expect to see network locations supported in the Metro Photos app?

  6. Zeeyad says:

    SUPER AWESOME!!!!

  7. Nice App, I like UI.

    As usual Here are my compliants 🙂

    1. When I open a photo from windows explorer it doesn't allow me to goto next photo in the folder.

    2. Home button is required. (Read too many clicks to reach home page)

    3. Currently app allows me choose a photo for live tile. But I need a way to choose multiple photos to be used on live tile.

  8. Tone says:

    I'm so worried about the direction MS is obviously taking with Win 8.  It's serving up Windows 8, touchy-feely dumb-ass edition.

    The iOS-ification of this version of Windows is just plain worrying.  But I guess it's great for tablets, which seems to be the 2'nd thing Windows 8 is about.

    I'm skipping this one, unless something drastic changes in the RTM version. (can't see it happening)

  9. Richard says:

    +1 To @ceesar's question.

  10. Metro Sucks says:

    METRO SUCKS!….. And Surface Sucks! Nice blooper Sinofsky!

  11. IT WAS PRETTY NICE TO SEE YOU FAIL WITH SURFACE TABLET ON STAGE, sinovsky!

    THAT IS WHY YOU CLOSED COMMENTING SO EARLY, I GUESS!

    YOUR OS IS PRETTY SUCKS! METRO IS WORTHLESS! FIND A NEW JOB!

    NOT YELLING! IT'S READ BETTER!

    TROLLIN' IS A WAY OF PROTEST!

  12. Gennaro Tangari says:

    New Metro apps seems to me limitated of I compare them with the old Windows

    Live. What about face recognition and geo location?

  13. Why does Microsoft even bother to  open these comments, only for these MORONS to start being stupid and rude.

  14. Just looks poor says:

    and without network support, it is useless.  Not everyone is on Facebook, you know

  15. Again the big, full-screen Metro app looks really clunky and is way too rigid.  The Windows 8 team needs to consider iPhoto, you know, the same one they've got on their Macs at home.  While not perfect iPhoto is scalable, very comfortable to look at and has a ton of tools by which the user can organize and modify photos.  The keyword and smart album features work great.  I can put iPhoto on half my screen and do something else on the other half, just like working on a real computer!

  16. Oups, Windows 8 Sucks says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

  17. nana688: WHY DON'T YOU JUST SHUT THE F**K UP?! DON'T READ COMMENTS IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT SON OF A..

    NOBODY CARE YOUR OPINION! PLEASE KEEP SUCKING sinofsky's C…CK, BUT KEEP IT SILENT.

  18. Mladen says:

    My only complaint about the app is that it DOESN'T download the HQ photos from Facebook. And this is noticeable even on my '07 Toshiba with a 1280×800 screen. Can't imagine what it would be like on something bigger…

  19. tomb says:

    When are you going to add support for XMP Tags to the app.  I have invested much time tagging my photos. The photos "App" in Windows Media Center read the tag info on my photos, which provided an excellent way to browse through the photos.  Browsing through the folder structure for me is pretty meaningless.

  20. bzibrickyt says:

    For everyone looking for a more granular photo editing app – Live Photo Gallery still works.  I have it pinned to my Win8 Start screen right next to the new photo app that I use to browse pics.  If I need to edit the pics or manage them I launch Live Photo Gallery.  Easy.

    Now onto something that doesn't seem to work for me:  SkyDrive integration seems to be broken.  I have many folders which do not display their pics.  Is there a minimum folder level that you have to meet?  My folder structure only goes two levels deep – Year, and then Folder.  Like 2011, and Halloween.  Right now the top level folders show up but only a few – if any – pics show up.  Most of the folders show nothing inside.  If anyone has info on this please help!

    Otherwise, I love the implementation and I love Windows 8!

  21. NOT YELLING! IT'S READ BETTER!

  22. Why are you guys posting here if you like the Mac so much just go and use it and shut the hell up.

  23. "…use the Windows 8 Devices charm to play your slide show on your TV or any other Windows certified Play To device"

    Really?  If I want to view a slide show on my TV, all I have to do is replace my $2,500 television that I bought 3 years ago with one that supports Play To?  Can you be serious?

    Apple sells a $99 device called Apple TV 2 that has an HDMI output that connects to your *existing* TV or home theater system, and *that* is how you send music, photos or video to your TV.  No upgrades required.  When is there going to be a $99 Play To device that is comparable?

    Eric

  24. Tone says:

    Outside the world of tablets, all I'm hearing is just how off-the-rails this version has gone.  I have tried it for myself, and apart from the constant freezing, I just could not get on with this.

    I'm sticking to Win7 if the RTM version is no different than the release preview.  And I'm NOT going to buy it before trying it!

  25.   Prettysure you are an a—hole.

  26. Tone says:

    @nana688 – Please stop being a troll.  You are the only one bringing up the MAC.

    But you have your head up your @55 if you think that all this Metro stuff is not MS's answer to IOS and Android.

  27. @Steven Sinofsky

    The animation of slideshow looks ordinary to me (unlike Photo in iOS with stunning 3d motions for slideshow). Also, it lacks of basic photo retouching tools (the ones Windows Live Photo Gallery has). Believe me users wouldn't want to open a different app to perform such simple retouching tasks so built-in tools would be necessary.

    BTW, there are many types of animation for Windows Phone Live Tiles (flipping, spinning, dissolving) why there is only sliding animation for Windows 8 Live Tiles.

  28. Sansa says:

    I like the app but I have one issue. It looks like this app has a local cache or something because my Skydrive mobile update folder has 42 pictures but this app shows 67. Initially it had 67 pictures but I deleted couple of them. Deleted photos are still showing up. I tried removing the folder from settings and nothing works. If I add a new photo the skydrive mobile upload folder it shows but just does not remove the deleted photos. Please fix it.

  29. Great Post and love the app! One thing that concerns me though with photo/image integration in Windows 8 and Phone 8, is the reduction in customization of the start screen or background. Yes, we can apply the photo to the background and lockscreen, but what about the screen where most users spend the most time? Like Carmen said, "It's a personal computer after all."

  30. Yeah Mac fanboys  all over this blog  spewing garbage, petty little boys.

  31. Fast & fluid says:

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    FAST & FLUID!!

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

  32. Master says:

    @nana688 – Reading through your post history, wow what a complete anti-Apple TROLL you are.

    Grow up little troll.

  33. techy46 says:

    Can Microsoft add a filter to these blogs so I can eliminate all content that includes "suck" or "sucks"

  34. whateverrr says:

    Will the Photos app be a total replacement for Windows Live Photo Gallery? As it is, this thing is downright useless when it comes to photo management (i.e. tagging, geotagging, captions, retouching, etc.).

  35. @techy46: THERE'S NO NEED TO ADD A FILTER. THEY SHOULD JUST CLOSE THIS RIDICULOUS BLOG ABOUT THEY RIDICULOUS PRODUCT! THAT'S ALL WE NEED!

    NOT YELLING! IT'S READ BETTER!

  36. Ham says:

    Please add network support. A Nas is not uncommon.

  37. Microsoft Surface Fail Parody says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    This is hilarious! haha

    @nana688

    I'm not a mac fanboy, I love Windows… but Not Metro garbage. Its hard to understand that?

  38. techy47 says:

    Can Microsoft add a filter to these blogs so I can eliminate all content that includes "fast" or "fluid"

  39. The Apple church cult  members are restless.

  40. Backup says:

    A related question please: will the online backup feature in Server 2012 be extended to Windows 8?  I would happily pay more for the SkyDrive/Azure storage, but I don't want to have to run Server 2012 as my primary OS just to get the locally-encrypted and block-oriented backup features for photos, videos, docs, etc.  Thanks!

  41. Ham says:

    Semantic zoom in calendar app is a must have.

  42. W8RPUser says:

    Please add capability to have a windows media center like screen saver – possibily letting us select the photos, or specifying some filter with ratings, location, people etc.

  43. Grow a BRAIN and you can understand  METRO.

  44. Oups says:

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    "Is fast, fluid & fun"

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    "Is fast, fluid & fun"

  45. pmbAustin says:

    The thing that is desperately missing from this app, and the videos app, is a way to protect content.  There are some folders I don't want to just be broadcast everywhere (in the live tile, or in the gallery).  I want to be able to password-protect folders, easily organize, and hide content I don't want shared with just anyone.  It's more than just being able to "exclude" certain folders… I still want to be able to view them when *I* want to, I just don't want anyone else to be able to see anything and everything, even accidentally.

    This is a critical must-have feature, imho.

  46. DvO says:

    Please release an official Android app for SkyDrive so I can ditch Dropbox and I finally start using the Photos app and many more features.

  47. Kill Metro says:

    @nana688

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second! I have to grow a brain in my microsoft virtual farm"

  48. Hello Brad! I've been waiting for this post as I'm hoping that the Photo app becomes the one I use the most. The app as it is in the RP is promising, and a huge improvement from the CP. That said, it still provides only the most basic photoviewing capabilities. Particularly, the "Import" dialog is unacceptable. I'd suggest you take the features that are currently part of the Windows Live Photo app, which lets you group photos by time span (an hour, a day, a week, a month) and remembers what you've imported and what you haven't – as far as I know, this feature is unrivaled.

    Like a lot of people, I like to keep a backup of my pictures on my camera's SD card. I have over 2000 photos on it, and right now the Photo's import screen is ill-suited for such a massive amount of data. Try it, it really doesn't work, and even with 15 min of it loading, it's still a pain to move around. I suggest that for any picture set larger than 100 photos, a list view be populated, and photos be grouped in sub-categories based on date. There's also an irritating bug in there that changes the order of the photos so that they are not necessarily arranged by date. Finally, the dialog that appears after the import gives the user a single option "Open Folder". Why put a dialog at all if you're not going to let the user stay in the Import page?? Frustrating.

    Finally, I don't want to have a seperate app to edit photos. Ideally, this app should be setup like the WP7 app which lets third parties plug into it through an app-bar control.

    Last complaint: the delete key on the keyboard doesn't delete photos. Very annoying.

  49. JD says:

    I'd love to have all of my phone's pics on SkyDrive, but the carrier killing of the cloud makes that difficult. I'd like to see Microsoft add an option where the camera in Windows Phone could wait until it is on WiFi to send the camera roll pictures to SkyDrive.

  50. Pol says:

    Microsoft doing things that sucks…. we dont need a "Photo App" we already have something called Adobe Bridge.

  51. Red34 says:

    @nana688

    How old are you?

  52. @bzibrickyt Actually, Windows Live Photo Gallery has been broken for me since the DP. I thought this was something everyone was experiencing… The app will open fine, but any type of retouching produces strange behaviours. So far, video card firmware updates have not fixed the issue. So right now, I use WLPG to import photos (best import dialog IMHO), edit them in Picasa, and view them in the new Photo app. Not the best example of a well integrated system.

  53. oups... hangon, excuse me, just a second! says:

    Finally after years of struggling, Microsoft copied the iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch

  54. Fast and fluid says:

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

  55. Please remove Metro! says:

    Hahaha Sinofsky is a bad copy of Mr. Steve Jobs, he is so wannabe.

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second, I have to imitate apple!"

  56. Darren says:

    I hate Windows 8.

  57. bzibricky says:

    @arrow22  I wasn't aware of that.  I've been managing using WLPG but not editing as I don't need to do it that often.  What you described certainly isn't ideal!  I would assume with all of the Live services getting revamped a new version will take shape.  You don't think this app will be it do you?  I never really thought of that possibility…if so, it won't meet the needs of many.  Great to look at though!  LOL!

  58. @JoeyIsOK (feel free to tweet me with answers) says:

    Even though most photogs think it's cool to be seen with an Apple laptop, I am a Microsoft photographer through and through.  I use MS products very successfully to manage my workflow.  The only non-MS product I use is Photoshop.  One of the key cogs in my workflow (and when I say "key" I mean completely integral) is Windows Live Photo Gallery.  WLPG does a superb job managing my thousands of photos from a shoot.  I can arrange them, rate them, move them, publish them, tag them, etc all within WLPG. Thanks to the underlying SQL Server, WLPG handles all my photos without hesitation.  What is going to happen to this functionality in Win8?  Let's face it, the Photos App just isn't going to bring the functionality I need.

  59. Martin Anderson says:

    I would like to see Microsoft release a Metro counterpart to Windows Live Photo Gallery's editing.  A photo viewer is one thing, but the ability to edit will really make it a worth while app to own!

  60. deiruch says:

    Thanks for this update. I'm pretty happy with Win8 in general. But the photo app has some shortcomings. I know that you're almost at RTM and therefore unlikely to change anything, but I sure hope that you can update the photo app afterwards.

    The issues are:

    1. My Pictures library includes (indexed) network shares. Photos from these shares show in the live tile, but not in the app. I can see the folder structure, but no pictures. Looks like a bug to me.

    2. In the slideshow, the border is dark gray instead of black. I'd prefer black.

    3. The slideshow is static. I'd prefer a Ken Burns-effect slideshow.

  61. bb10 says:

    All my images are shown with a huge amount of JPEG compression artifacts in the Photos app. It looks horrible.

    (JPEGs set as wallpaper in Windows 8 look just as horrible btw. It seems they get re-compressed. PNGs look fine when used as wallpaper)

  62. w1ngnut says:

    This app is gorgeous!!!! Great work guys – everyone from programmers to designers!

  63. Haha Poor Microsoft says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    Microsoft Surface Presentation FAIL

  64. With CP the photo app was very slow when trying to access pictures stored on a local server.

    I'm glad to see that Release Preview has solved that issue.

    Now everything is fast and fluid!

  65. DO IT! says:

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  66. I love what the comments in these articles have become says:

    MS is heading for a brick wall.  I admire the all or nothing approach.  If they dont change radically then Apple is gonna clean their clocks anyway.  So hey what the hell.

  67. sCHWANGdeSchwang says:

    IF W8 DOESNT SHIP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE AND CONTEXT-SENSITIVE HELP SYSTEM, THEN THIS PRODUCT IS EVEN MORE DOOMED THAN IT CURRENTLY APPEARS IT WILL BE.

  68. Alex says:

    One of the main features I think you're missing in this app is the ability to pin folders of photos from the app to the Start screen.

  69. Pol says:

    Ok I have to admit that Windows 8 looks great on Surface, but there is a difference using it with a PC.

  70. Kevin says:

    30Gb of photos in the photo library but sat on a network share (Windows Home Server). Can't see any of them in the photo library. Crazy.

  71. ceesar says:

    In addition to my earlier post, see here for a good discussion on the Windows 8 CP/RP forums, regarding the absence of network support in the Photos app.

    answers.microsoft.com/…/024839cf-03c7-472c-8bce-e6df3b9b2778

  72. jader3rd says:

    "All of your photos can always be viewed by date"

    True, but by the wrong date. It can only handle Date Created, not Date Taken. Collages and scanned pictures would have their Date Taken field modified to show the correct date that the picture was taken. Way more useful than Date Created.

  73. Geoffc1 says:

    Mr. Weed, as you are very well aware, but you don't state in this post, photos stored on Microsoft's Windows Home Server product CANNOT be displayed in your Photos App. Your vaunted "Photos from all of your devices" boast is disingenuous at best, and a lie at worst.

    I'm beginning to feel that these Building Windows 8 Posts aren't worth reading.

    answers.microsoft.com/…/1085f080-03c8-4847-b153-ebcf2a726c4a

  74. shrippen says:

    Please Support more codecs for the photos! Nearly my whole photo collection consists of raw files – thus i am able to look at roughly 20 Pictures of my 30.000 or so with the photo app. I already installed a dng Shell Extension (from Adobe) for the Explorer to enable the Explorer to work with it but so far no luck with the photos app.

  75. Nice job again! Thanks. Please take these off-topic suggestions into considerations:

    – Start: The new Start page announced for Windows Phone 8 is simply awesome. Please confirm that Windows 8 will also support these three tile sizes. The new smallest size is particularly welcomed.

    – Metro IE: Show the tabs bar automatically as soon as one begins to swipe the app down in order to prevent to prevent the unintentional closing of the other tabs.

    – Metro IE: please enable Ctrl+D for saving a webpage to My Favorites.

    – Desktop: After using Windows 8 for some time, one develops the habit of closing apps by swiping them down. As a result, I’ve been finding myself trying to close desktop apps by swiping them down. Now, snap works somewhat similarly in both user interfaces. I really think that the Swipe down to close feature should also be enabled for apps (and not just for the desktop itself) on the desktop.

  76. Dmitriy says:

    To be honest, this app is still very poor and basic compared to Windows Live Photos.

  77. And if i want to keep my photos on PC and arrange by folders, i cannot create, move rename folders in that crap Metro basic functions useless App.

    Where's Windows experience?

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    You Microsoft guys are getting laughed all around for forcing Metro to Windows non touch desktops, even more presenting a Marvellous(that's for real, i like it so much) tablet that DO NOT WORK DURING PRESENTATION????

    Acer do not like at all your move(you go against OEMs???), all customers what will remember about Surface in one month time???

    ….just that it hangs during presentation….

    Bad move Microsoft, new product has to be presented few days before release to shops, with price, so customer know what buying…

    So what??? you'll re-present Surface in a few months with prices??? hoping a working one maybe….

    Why you showboat with a non working tablet, not being usable for press present there????

    Just to move bad attention of Windows crap Metro 8???

    Great move, listen to that, listen to customers, that will continue spending money on your products:

    Windows Phone 8, new OS for phones and tablets with full Metro touch experience

    Windows 8, new OS without metro, working on Desktops and Laptops, with improved Windows experience, you know what is Windows????

    yup, for Microsoft is dated, as aero,

    THE FUTURE ARE TABLETS AND PORTABLE DEVICES……yeah maybe in 2020, Microsoft will still exist???

    And, my pictures are mine, i will keep it in my HD always, backupped twice, not keeped on internet space, where a hacker will get to, or where if i do not have internet access cannot view….

    Really nowadays hard disk, usb sticks, SD cards are to heavy to bring around, you saved the world guys!

  78. Bill Gates says:

    Difference between and an idiot and a genius, idiots think everything about windows 8 is great, geniuses know it's a load of crap

  79. Carlo Mendoza says:

    Please add better support for embedded EXIF or any Metadata in pictures/photos captured with a built-in camera in Windows 8 and Windows Phones. Look at how much information we get from modern point and shoots and DSLRs. It would be nice to identify pictures captured from any particular Windows Phone by adding an option to include serial number or owner name in photos from Windows Phones.

  80. alvatrus says:

    I've played around with the photo-app (as an amateur photographer) and one of the features I miss most is a database driven approach to find my images. This is a problem across the board in the metro interface.

    Fortunately I use Lightroom on the desktop so I won't use the Photo-app, but one wonders how the UI-people of windows 8 think to handle a vast amount of files (in metro) that find their origin from the desktop.

    Perhaps worthy of a separate post?

  81. Max says:

    Wow, so much hate! I hope Steven reads this in the hope that he sees not everyone in the Windows community is an angry Internet 'troll'. What people need to remember is that a lot of this new stuff is built for tablets. Like, to be honest, i've using the Release Preview, and while I think it will be the most powerful, yet most fluid tablet OS out there, I think desktop users will spend majority of their time in the traditional 'Desktop' with a metro app like twitter docked to the side, but guess what!? MS know that too! They aren't stoping you from using Windows 8 the way you want! That's why the brand new much updated Desktop is still in Windows 8!

    People need to calm down, and see that they're trying to show off the new features. Clearly there is no point them showing off the Adobe suite on the Desktop, because we all know how that runs and works. Tablets are new, not desktops, so their marketing towards tablets and hybrids, but I'd you use it in a desktop, then it will work great, especially in the new desktop 🙂

  82. Oups, Windows 8 Sucks says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

  83. TROLLING says:

    @Max

    Shut the f… up!

  84. Ice T says:

    @Max

    Yeah.. so much "hate" I know… you love Windows 8, but some others not…

    just simple as that, is not hate… is because Metro Ui is mediocre.

  85. need a What's New section, so you can see new photos posted from facebook, twitter, flickr contacts. Like on WP7.

  86. Keith says:

    +1 for @ceesar's and @doit's suggestion – support photos on a network share.  I have added my Windows Home Server photos location to my Pictures library via Windows Explorer but the Metro Photos Apps still doesn't show them.

  87. Fordp says:

    Is there any possible reason anyone would use this anemic app on a desktop pc or even a laptop. It lacks tons of features found in your previous apps such as WLPG. Compared to that or even Picasa, this is absolutely useless, harder to user, and lacks a ton of features that every single person uses.

    What could possibly possess you to release a 1st party photo app without basics such as face recognition? Even if in some fantasy universe I think of Win 8 as just a tablet OS, this app is still pathetic and lacks so many features.

  88. PygonGin says:

    @bzibrickyt  In SkyDrive your folders in the pictures folder have a "Folder Type".  On the SkyDrive website you have to go into your pictures folder and switch to list view mode.  Then look at the icons for the folders.  If there is a little picture in the tiny folder icon then it is the right type.  If it is just a folder icon then you need to change the folder type.  Check the one you want to change and then expand the Information section in the details pane on the right, and on the bottom there is a folder type section with a link to change the folder type.  Once the folder has been changed to pictures then it will show up in the Photos app.  It is kind of a painful process but I got all my photos to show up.

  89. Chuck Testa says:

    @Fordp – "Is there any possible reason anyone would use this anemic app on a desktop pc or even a laptop."

    Nope!

  90. Dan says:

    Interesting to see the amount of hate and trolling since the Surface demo. Just goes to show how successful that presentation was, simply based on the amount of negative interest its generated. This just makes me feel confident that it will be a successful product.

    The only thing I can ask is, Steven, please make sure Surface is available at launch in the UK. I want one! Its the first tablet I've seen that actually seems like it could be useful.

  91. Robocop says:

    @Dan

    Interesting to see the amount of… oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second…

  92. Could I add my requests? says:

    I would like to see the ability to actually view photos that are on my machine already while not having an Internet connection at all. On a recent cruise my W8 tablet let me totally down

    I do not have a FlickR account. Would be great to have it removed.

    As many said before me:  Network support would be great.  WHS for one (for me).  Or the home network group.  Even a NAS would be great.

    Raw file support has been mentioned – I'd be looking for this too.

    A get started screen would be great – some text that explains the basic features. Took me months to figure there is a thumbnail view. How to enlarge to full screen I have seen on the video, but still not sure how it is done.

  93. HubertD says:

    @PygonGin That is a great hint. Thanks for sharing. Yet still thinking would it not be great this was documented – in some kind of help for instance – so that is was self-discoverable?

  94. lol trolls says:

    look at all these butt-hurt trolls. Afraid world will move on with metro and leave you behind?

    The app should have some basic photo-editing options.

  95. The world is likely to move on but I doubt it will be with Metro.  Get real!

  96. rgba says:

    This app is terrible in its current state. It lacks tons of features, it can't even do basic editing stuff, such as rotating, and it's not mouse-friendly. I really like the Metro design principles, and I'm looking forward to the Surface, but all these apps are very poor.

  97. ling hoa says:

    I like the tile interface.

    Windows 8 look is very bold beautiful and fluid.

    is a newcomer, young and attractive

    it's perfectly suited for tablets thanks to the low power drain and low heat generated by systems running on ARM processor !!;)

    im so happy for codename:Windows 8 and i think Windows 95 was a big deal for users and developers alike.

    Overall, this release feels smoother, faster, snappier, and more stable.

    Metro does rock on desktop and laptop!

    with this your luck can be perfect.

    now with touch you can have all your requirements plus even more.

    My prediction is clear and I know that there will be a much perfect luck for the whole W(P)8(RT) universe than Microsoft can imagine.I respect Microsoft for doing that. My opinion on these metro hating freaks is that they are all people who don't like to change

    and dont forget  Thank for feedback mark as answer and log uri

  98. long exposure says:

    I like the photo app but….

    Would like access to connect to network locations, like many I have a gig's upon gig's of pictures.

    Will you be extending the app to allow other services (SmugMug, 500PX) to be linked into to the photo app?

    A decent photo editing app for basic fixes e.g. Picassa would be great.

    More touch friendly!

    Thanks for the updates

  99. I would like more information about the OS, not about its application. What about the performance in Multithread Programs? Any change in the kernel? Why not make performance pack after the RTM? Windows 8 can be fluid and faster than Windows 7, but as time pass, all other OS get faster but Windows, and the next versión is years away.

  100. +1 to the request for Raw support, especially with the growth of DSLRs – many people are going to have Raw files on their computers.

    Also, would love it if other services could use this app as well. For example, I have a few photos on Smugmug. I don't use Flickr anymore, so would prefer to integrate Smugmug with this app.

  101. I honestly don't know why so many people follow this blog when they don't like the content. No-one's forcing you to read, to like, or to upgrade come RTM.

    The photo app is nice, and I like the integration with popular services. Unfortunately the network location issue is exactly that, and issue. This would be so readily solved by changing one thing that's bugged me since I first got hold of Win7 – allow non-indexed locations in libraries – OR simply allow indexing of network locations. Either way, I don't mind, but I do NOT want massive network locations on my NAS to have to be cached offline on my already small SSD simply in order to index the contents- they're on a separate device for a reason!

    All-in-all though for this app to work well with the general public (who this edition of Windows is aimed at) you really need to offer some basic retouch abilities (such as WP7's autofix option, but maybe a bit more as this is NOT just a phone operating system). Don't forget M$- you plan on selling and marketing this as more than just a oversized phone OS (as are iOS and Android). This is Windows but on a tablet- please don't therefore reduce functionality across the board just to pander to the lowest common user. Add value wherever you can.

  102. DarienHawk67 says:

    "When you plug your camera in to your PC, all you have to do is pick the Photos app as your importer, and we’ll take care of the rest. You don’t need any additional cables, and the quality of your photos will not be diminished."

    Really?  So that was a problem in the past?  We needed "additional" cables and the photos deteriorated when we copied/moved them from our cameras and phones?  Yeah, okay.

  103. Sudaca says:

    I'm not allowed to submit apps to Windows Store because my country is not listed/authorized for doing that. Now, in a near future, I will not be allowed to buy one of those Microsoft Surface tablets because apparently is a "US market only" thing.

    Good job, Microsoft… A multinational corporation at its best… /s

  104. Ratros says:

    So generally you guys spent tons of resources only to make a software with basic functions only and now put a blog post to tell everyone "what a revolutionary change we've done"? Good for you, Steven.

  105. I'd like to add another vote for SmugMug as the online photo service that I use that I would like to have available in the Photos app.

    Eric

  106. Windows 8 is the next Vista says:

    This version of Windows will be a big flop. Just look at the survey of Windows 8

  107. FilterComments says:

    Filter out the trolls, or rather just block them. It's likely the same few people anyway. This is meant to be a family friendly blog.

  108. "I honestly don't know why so many people follow this blog when they don't like the content. No-one's forcing you to read, to like, or to upgrade come RTM."

    It might be because some of us are Windows fans and don't like the direction that Windows is heading in.  Additionally some of us Windows fans would like to see Microsoft finish something completely rather than 80%.  Look at the comments regarding the calendar and photo Metro apps.  Compare what those apps are capable of in the Consumer Preview compared to iPhoto and iCal as released in Snow Leopard or even Leopard a few years ago.

    That's why.

  109. sreesiv says:

    Excellent, the app looks and feels premium.

  110. Dart says:

    I really like this app, awesome!

  111. Darren says:

    Has anyone noticed these terrible long mouse distances? I know people will say everything you can reach it with keyboard shortcuts, but if everything should be done with keyboard what is the mouse for then? In fact, there are times the keyboard is out of reach or I am just too lazy to use it/change input device. And in this case mouse travelling is horrible:

    1. Place mouse in the middle of the desktop. To go to start screen you need to move the mouse all the way down into left corner.

    2. I was looking for an editor, so I wanted to open all apps. Right click produces the taskbar and the all apps button is all the way to the right. So my mouse need to travel there.

    3. Then finally I can see all apps but need to scroll through them and mouce my mouse up again to click Wordpad.

    Oups….. not the right editor? Then I need to go through all these steps again to find Editor.

    Luckily clicking Wordpad brings me back to the desktop interface. If I want to go back to the desktop manually, I either have to scroll to the desktop app, or click "all apps" again and move the mouse to the desktop tile.

    Microsoft, after 5 minutes of using the release preview my anger is boiling and I have to shut it down. This os is the bigges sh*t I have ever seen it is full of idiocracy and so much focused on forcing things on users instead of giving them a choice. Your are blogging about useless ridiculous full screen apps which lack the most basic functions and telling us how great they are.

    Don´t you feel ashamed to tell audience at the Surface presentation that you can use Internet Explorer and watch movies. That was a revolution YEARS ago.

    No matter what you do it is time for you to realise that the world is laughing at Microsoft so badly trying to be revolutionary by mimicking Apple. Zune, a disaster, Kin a disaster. Windows phone has a disastrous 1.9 marketshare and falling. You can´t sync companys own products without the cloud and Skype on Windows Phone is nothng but failure. Metro, useless on the desktop and still you are busy to force these ridicolously coloured tiles on to your customers. Monkey-Ballmer and Metro-Steven, a real dream team. Microsoft is doomed with you two j*rks.

    I will laugh so badly when you realize that most people who enjoy this approach are already Apple customers and the remaining people simply ignore Microsofts products for the sh*tty approach you chosen.

    From me you won´t see any money for this and I will dump my Windows Phone as soon as I can.

    I don´t like your approach so I will not buy your products anymore.

  112. Jhabril Harris says:

    Microsoft here me out. I like Surface (the tablet, not PixelSense [well that's good too] ), and there are a few things that are missing from that too. What I am here to talk about, though, is that Apple has gained major sales due to its marketing of special features such as Siri (just look at the difference between iPhone 4 and 4S sales, the major upgrade factor was basically just software oriented). Now, they are bringing that Siri experience to the iPad. What Windows 8 needs is a voice assistant too. I know Windows already has built in speech software such as Windows Speech Recognition and Narrator, but it just isn't enough and integrated and deep into the OS as Siri is to iOS+Dictation for both Mountain Lion and iOS. Since Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 are both going to share the same core, then perhaps Audible could also be featured in Windows 8 as well. It would make the Windows 8 experience SOOO much better!.

    Also, the Surface needs TouchCover with a back-lit keyboard and also needs a magnetic piece at the tip of the tablet and Cover to keep it in place, that's something I've seen people complain about the iPad's SmartCover.

  113. farmington says:

    For me, the ability to add metadata and customize it how I want it is as important as any other aspect of organizing my photos. I would like to be able to tag images with arbitrary name-value pairs. Sure, I want to tag my photos with the usual dates, names, places, and titles, however, try as you might, you can't guess all the categories of tags that I want to apply to my photos. For example, I would like to tag my photos with tags like "Era", "Photographer", "Street Address", "Pets", "Colors" and "Keywords."

  114. Really liking the Windows 8 experience. I've recently started to move back from iOS to use W8 + W-Phone 7.5 + SkyDrive. The ecosystem is coming together really nicely and works well. So I can now use the same machine at home as I do at work. It would be nice to be able to print from the photo app though.

  115. Tom M says:

    Here's the thing. Windows users are windows users because they like windows. We like backwards compatibility and control. We like having lots of windows on the screen, and not having to have apps take up the full screen. We like things more or less the way they are, because we've got used to things working in a certain way. This is why we stick with Microsoft.

    HOWEVER, with Metro we see Microsoft ditching all that, and trying to be Apple. The problem is that they're just not as good as being Apple as Apple are. By forcing people away from what we know and love, you force us to relearn how to use a computer, and if we're going to have to relearn then why not relearn on a platform which actually does stuff well. I've been using Windows pretty much exclusively since Windows 3.11, and I've never considered Apple before. I hate the way they do things, and I hate the way they over control the mac ecosystem, but seeing the way Microsoft is ignoring the cries of it's most loyal and experienced users, and the feelings of being betrayed and taken for granted might just be enough to make me jump ship, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

  116. Videos sometimes are grey says:

    Carmen Zlateff got personalized small black cubes with her full name on them!

    I want a cube!

    LOL!

    At some point the video has some color bugs, it happened also in other videos. They get grey and then colored right again.

  117. Why does every Metro app must be so limited function-wise?

  118. Darren says:

    @Impar: 2 solutions: Either Metro is sh*t or Microsoft cannot do better. Probably both.

  119. Oscar says:

    @ Steve DickLost

    So what is so good about

    Mac is too good with apps,not

    to mention other free OS.

  120. Patience.

    MS needs 3 versions to do it right. Metro is pre-1.0

  121. Question... says:

    Is it possible to add the desktop application launcher shortcut (e.g. Winkey+1 for I.E) to work from the start screen or apps without launching the desktop first, I'm sure this feature would benefit people and allow for a better experience allowing people to get to their applications even quicker then they can already.

    @All Apple Fanboys you troll Steven for making mistakes but I'm sure you don't ever think of these blunders http://www.youtube.com/watch

  122. Oscar says:

    @ Question

    Mac have more resources and more to say

    what about MS,never ever apologised for

    a Big Mistake called Vista,I lost my Vista

    bloody expensive in our business,never again MS with us

    and you sore pussies,kiss my Apple rearend

  123. Windows 7 says:

    @Tom M

    No, you are not alone. The MAJORITY of faithful previous Windows users will also jump ship, if this stupidity is allowed to continue.

    The latest blogs tell the true story; M$ have run out of steam on the OS, so now they need to rant on about apps.

  124. Darren says:

    @Tom M: See Tom what Microsoft does not understand after 10 year of trying to get a tablet to customers is that anybody who wanted to get treated the way Apple treats their customer, has already an Iphon, Ipad, Mac, Ipod. Now they hope that somehow magically the number of dumb customer wanted to limited options at premium cost increases so they can get their share of milk.

    But Windows Phone shows that Microsoft is far away from what their customers want. The reason is they simply don´t understand and furthermore they do not listen. They are like former soviet leaders. Once a decision is made the go for it. Like former Soviet Union had the power to do that for a while, Microsoft has the money to follow that. So they believe they can ignore their customer and switch to Apples customers. But only after they see how much money Apple rips off their customers. It is funny that only when Microsoft fears to fall behind they start doing something. They had 10 years bubbling about tablets and were incompetent to deliver one. Basically nothing has changed. They are still incompetent to deliver an intuitive system on their own and even their copy work is sh*t.

    Everytimg I boot this "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!" I feel close to getting a stroke. No wonder shares are down to all time low. Moneky Ballmer turned Microsoft into a monkey business with childish coloured tiles. No wonder he has been critiszed as worst CEO in computer industry.

  125. GT. says:

    I bought my Android tablet for internet browsing and photos, the browsing is ok but the photo app is full with bugs, no, it is one big bug, it used to be almost ok in Android 3, but in 4 it is a disaster, I hope Windows Tablet will have a better one, then Android is going to the garbage!

    I have 20,000 photos and a professional camera, please make the photo app really works this time! I want to be able to set a sort order for the albums

  126. @Oscar says:

    I'm not denying Vista was shocking, even MS know that Vista was awful, the thing that really bugs me is how Trollers are trolling on an MS blog, it really shows how pathetic they are. I'm not against constructive criticism etc. But Trollers really don't need to have to even bother MS. If they don't like the product, they can say they don't and what they would improve, not type in CAPITAL LETTERS TO PROVE A POINT. Because that really is childish.

    And another thing is that a lot of these trollers haven't tried WIndows 8. Now I'm not expecting everyone to like it, of course not. People don't like such change. But some people need to realise that this sort of change is necessary for the Technology industry so it can evolve and grow. If companies like MS just release the same product with maybe 50 extra features year on year, innovation will decrease and this would damage the technology industry as a whole.

    So if you don't like the product, express your (not saying this to you personally but to the trollers) opinion but in a constructive, mature way and then move away from Microsoft and use other products besides Windows.

  127. Matty says:

    @Tom M I understand and respect your opinion and I know why you would think that as I did think that as well at one point. But I've realised that MS aren't becoming Apple, I think MS has been forced to make this radical step by the evolving industry. People want to be able to switch device and quickly get on with what they are doing, and this is MS's answer to this.

    It's been around 17 years since the last major change in the OS (Graphically and Experience-wise) and that was Windows 95.

    Since then Microsoft have been releasing the same product to consumers but with a lot of changes and at one point shifting to a different Kernel all together (MS-DOS ->NT), so it was time Microsoft changed a bit, because inevitably people would stop buying new OSes as they are all the same. I find Windows 95 bearing massive similarities to Windows 7, and they have a difference of 14 years. So Metro and Windows 8 was a logical (albeit radical, controversial) step to allow the technology industry to evolve and grow. Otherwise Microsoft will end up being stuck in the past while Mac OS and other Operating Systems fly on ahead with amazing features.

    We all had to learn how to use Windows at one point, this is just relearning how to use it again, and it isn't even as hard as the base Windows experience is still there.

  128. Oscar says:

    @ whatever you are

    The truth hurts,it is not in MS

  129. Hok says:

    Please create a pixel nugget (Adobe Max) a more advanced visual search, that is search picture using picture. A deblur feature that really deblur an image (Adobe MAX). Also a more advanced face recognition that can recognize faces not only in 90 degree. All done by using GPU. Also try more accurate not fulled by a statue. Thank you.

  130. Cool Source says:

    @ the non ID fanboy at MS

    I have tried Win 8,same as much as Vista.

    want more info contact me

    IT developer 11 years.

  131. Cool Source says:

    @ Question.

    No reply,what is going on at MS Fanboys club.

    Ah well, I been kind.

  132. Darren says:

    Microsoft has been turned into a METRO, METRO, METRO zoo.

  133. BrightNCalm says:

    I hear the cloud story a lot.  But if I want to view the picutures in an external drive, I do not see a provision for that.  The photos I have are too many to upload to the cloud and would prefer to have it in my local machine itself.

    Another scenario I see missing in the photo app is, if I choose a particular photo from a local folder, I would like to browse through the rest of the photos in the folder as well.  Currently I would have to switch back to that folder and then click on the next photo.  I suppose the story for a user having photos in the local machine has largely been ignored.  There are still places in the world, where internet is a luxury.  Hope you guys keep that in mind as well.

  134. Oscar says:

    @Well, it shows the quality and the caliber of the Microsoft

    boot lickers, the lack of narrative and argument to understand

    the issues of poorly designed Operating System, the so called

    “vulnerabilities” that is prevalent in any Windows OS, to the

    detriment and danger to “Windows  User’s.

    The Cyber Scams are the in domain of Windows users and for

    what we know, nothing are said of other Operating Systems.

    Or what about the former employees of Microsoft offering

    by phone from overseas, to solve solutions to Windows Users

    that have conflicts with their computers, because, they know

    the inherent “vulnerabilities” which is built in a badly designed

    operating system.

    As typical of Pathetic Simpletons, calling themselves as IT Evangelists

    Send like  by a Messiah, to preach the virtues of the flop, that was Vista

    Or hasta la Vista sick puppy, or the other flop Windows Phone 7, the retail

    Industry, shows that hardly any one touches it, and you lot know very well

    the trusted are iPhone and Android, and the consolation prize is the so called

    royalties collected by MS, is from Google, on the grounds of crying foul.

    As you know, the days of Microsoft preaching are over.finito,comprende?.

  135. Paul says:

    If no NAS Support (STILL in 2012) then this Proves Microsoft is way way out of touch & does not care about consumers,

  136. etacarinae says:

    @Steven Sinofsky Wait, so you've enabled video scrubbing in Metro's Photo app, but you haven't updated WMP with the same scrub functionality? And on that note, where is WMP13? The Desktop truly is the second class citizen.

  137. Me says:

    @etacarinae1  true point about WMP, also the desktop photo viewer or fax and scan could get a facelift.

    They still look like in Windows Vista and 7.

  138. Robert Smith says:

    @smallmountain0705, I completely agree with you. Microsoft was developing Mobile OS since 90's. Apple came in 2007 and flushed them away in that domain. Google came in 2009 and took away the rest of the slack. Similarly, Microsoft release Media Center in 2001-02 (since XP) which can turn your PC into a TV! You can boot right into the Media center! Once again Apple flashes their Apple TV able to make people forget that they could do it with Windows for so many years… and now Google allies with Sony and recently released a TV with a nice fancy remote control!!

    The only thing Microsoft lacks is advertise and make the product viral and plague into people mind as if it's the necessity of their life.. make it a symbol -> "Nike, Ferrari, Windows" …. like Apple and Google are doing!! Microsoft fails to set the trend because of lack of advertisement and lack of confidence on their skills and products with lot of chaos. I guess the engineers and scientists at Microsoft must be very upset with their complicated-conspiring-wicked higher management and their procedures which are drowning their efforts into the gutter just like that.

    It's a shame that Microsoft is employing people who are slapping on the face of agile and talented players. Bill Gates was quite aggressive in enriching the ecosystem with the latest technology and he deserves what he earned. But ever since they elected this typical clown, he is just filling his pockets and promoting his own kind. He and his men will eat Microsoft and tear it apart if they stay!

  139. Darren says:

    @Robert Smith

    Would you buy anything from this Metro monkey? http://www.youtube.com/watch

  140. @Steven Sinofsky, after looking through comments, I seriously suggest that they must be pre-approved, otherwise there are too many people trolling or otherwise being nonconstructive and/or offensive. Also all CAPS LOCK posts should be banned as well.

    As for the Photo app:

    – I would like to see at least basic image editing tools, like crop, red eye, blur/sharpen, etc.

    – Also, it would be nice if it'll support raw image files from DSLRs and likes

    – Options for integration with Adobe Lightroom or other similar software

  141. One thing I always wish was available in WLPG on a multi-monitor setup is the capability of utilizing one monitor for the image preview, and the other for the image manipulation controls. I'm not sure that Metro apps are capable of doing this, but it would be amazing for a nice image editing software.

  142. Henrik says:

    Just one question, does this work with the eHome remote? If not, it is useless for the livingroom, which is the place we enjoy photos in our family…

    /Henrik

  143. bl says:

    Where's the picasa online sync option? This is useless to me without it.

  144. Nitz Walsh says:

    Very disappointing in the lack of consistency between Metro apps.  

    From my experience so far with the Metro "theme" on Xbox and in Music/Videos apps, and while not Metro Skype is at least consistent in this regard: Where are the ads?

    I've grown accustomed with MS's new directive to at *least* expect a huge tile ad, if not full screen with new apps.  Only when I specifically scroll to the left/right do I find my own content, as it should be.  If I'm paying upwards of $100 for a new OS or $50 a year for an online service, I expect to be pummeled with advertisements on a daily basis.

    How in the heck will I be able to converse about my photo's with friends and family without using an ad as a jumping off point?  Come on, follow Skype's lead and get on the ball Bard.

  145. martin2 says:

    @smallmountain0705

    you don't have to pay $2500. You can get a xbox 360 for roundabout $150 play to capabilty as well – and much more fun with gaming if you want to

    @ham and others

    I added network shares to my windows picture library and it worked out ok – but these shares were homenet libraries. Maybe with normal shares this does not work – I don't know

    however, …

    I don't like the photo app. I do not see any use in it.

    What does this app really do? What is the unique functionality that has not been included in in the metro design already:

    – Show a home screen with a background image I can set up if I want to

    – browse through locations (local, facebook, etc.)

    – show folders with two zoom levels

    – show photos (without zoom)

    – do a (really simple) slideshow

    – set up a photo as background/lock screen/whatsoever

    – import photos from USB stick (btw this shows the "windows device icons" and not "metro style icons")

    that's it

    printing from device charm does not work ?!

    "Share with" comes from other apps

    Skydrive integration is metro standard as well

    so, really, this all looks to me like a demo project from visual studio

    I do not see any extended tags (Aperture, etc.) I cannot edit Meta data. I cannot filter these properties

    I see no use for desktop computer.

    Okay, I don't have a tablet. But If I had a tablet and I am on vacation and import my recently shot photos to my tablet, then I at least want to want to edit some of the meta tags (location ans so on)

    I really think you have to push the quality of the built in apps – "reader" for instance is much more usefull

    the photo app for photo tools is like "notepad" for word processors.

    Better than nothing, but if you have a stable network connection to download something else it is never seen again.

  146. Darren says:

    @ @Oscar

    Microsoft has chosen to ignore constructive crisitism. So why bother being constructive.

    But it is plainly wrong to assume trolls are simply too lazy to change their habbits. How would they consider to switch to Apple or even Linux then?

    It is simply fair to say that this Windows 8 os is split into 2 differen user experiences and one happy manager at Microsoft had the brilliant idea to merge them together. However they managed to merge the worst parts together and not the best parts. Look I simply don´t want to be bothered by Metro when I am working on desktop. It is fair to say that I would not want to be bothered by Desktop when I am on my tablet. It is simply ridiculous to force a Metro tablet user into the desktop experience when he using wordpad. The same is true the other way round. If I have no choice and have to buy Metro with the desktop, then I want to have the choice how to use it. But again Microsoft made a terrible decision: They decided to force it onto the users: Remove the start menu, instead let them use the Metro Start Screen. Add "Charms" so everytim you hit a corner you get dumped into a Metro like experience. And while anything could have been done a really good and interesting fashion Microsoft has chosen the worst approach of all.

    But they keep not listening, so we keep trolling.

  147. To get back on track. The Photos app looks to be a great example of the current thinking for the Metro environment: Simple functionality for the next generation and lots of connectedness to the web. Want more advanced features? you will have to look elsewhere. Want control over your environment? you will have to look elsewhere. This is the current generation of Metro apps, hopefully 3rd parties will step up and create apps with more functionality – I cannot believe it is the Metro environment itself that limits them.

    The photos app doesn't work well for my style of computer usage, primarily for two reasons. To me, finding a photo is tedious in the Metro picker as I have dozens of folders so I use the desktop to scan through my pictures libraries. Opening up a picture from desktop via double-clicking brings it up in Metro but I cannot move to the next/previous from there.

    Thanks to this post, I discovered that there was a "pinched" view avaiable. I don't have a mouse-wheel so I thought I was out of luck (control mouse-wheel is the mouse equivalant of finger "pinch") but I discovered a microscopic "-+" down in the corner that also does the same thing. So perhaps the photos app is more useful than I originally thought.

    As a suggestion, please add in an option to display the name of the file, I am guessing its part of some push to eliminate names for photos (although videos show names) but I would like the option to show filename and tags/metadata as an overlay option or at least as one of the functions in the "right-click" options bar

  148. raed says:

    well it looks kinda cool, but i didnt like the way pics are displayed

    like on bigger the other

  149. oups... says:

    cdn.memegenerator.net/…/22547783.jpg

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

  150. ;) Fast Fluid & Fun says:

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    I have to s..ck something fast, fluid & fun.

  151. Customers Customers Customers says:

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  152. Sweaty Ballmer says:

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    sweaty METRO METRO METRO Because was Fast fluid & fun

  153. Sweaty Ballmer says:

    cdn.memegenerator.net/…/22595302.jpg

    sweaty METRO METRO METRO Because was Fast fluid & fun

  154. Metroidism says:

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    STEEEEEEVEEE BALLLLLMEEEEEEERRR

  155. Mike H says:

    For some reason, even though I added my Home Server's Photos share to my Win8 Photos Library, the Photos app never shows any of the photos on my Home Server. Is this a bug? Any plan to directly support the Windows Home Server v1 Photo folder?

  156. AndyCadley says:

    @smallmountain0705: Microsoft already sell such a device, it's called Xbox 360

    I'm curious about the Skydrive comment, does it work by direct connecting to the photos on your local PC (ala Mesh) which the article seems to suggest, or is it suggesting you have to sync all your photos right up to SkyDrive first? And, if it's the former, will there be developer APIs for providing similiar types of direct connection functionality for other file types?

  157. Geoffc1 says:

    @Mike H – the Photos App is not able to display photos held on Windows Home Server. It's not a bug – it's a design failure by Microsoft. The Photos App team are aware of the shortcoming, and they claim they are trying to address it. We will see. I'm not holding my breath.

    answers.microsoft.com/…/1085f080-03c8-4847-b153-ebcf2a726c4a

  158. Some things that I think are critical for a more successful Windows 8 says:

    1- Windows 8 NEEDS a proper Notifications Center (At least an app that acts like a Notifications Center that logs and handles Notifications)

    2- Windows 8 needs an intuitive way to handle music. I mean that one very important use of tablets is as music players. One of the strong points of the iPhone and iPod is that they have a very good music app that can be accessed conveniently from the lock screen or by double-clicking the home button and going to the left. So, Windows 8 needs a quick way to control what is being played on the device especially from the lock screen. Also, the user needs to have a clear and easy way for adding files to the music library

    3- The Power Button needs to put somewhere in the Start Screen or at least added to the Profile menu in the Start Screen.

    4- There needs to be an easier and more apparent way of accessing the essential things that existed in the old Task Menu. It needs to be understood that not all users are experienced users that know how to access Computer without using the Task Menu. I can imagine the frustration of someone who just wants to access his external Hard Drive but he doesn't know how.

  159. pmbAustin says:

    I agree with the above…

    A "Notification Center" is missing and is desperately needed.

    And there are too many things that are "very small text only" controls that, when touched, take you to useful places that I can't figure out how to find any other way.  Like in the MS Store… when updating or installing an app, VERY TINY TEXT appears, and if you click on it or touch it, you get taken to a very useful screen that shows downloads and installs in progress.  Same with updates… a TEENY TINY TEXT alert appears, but ther'es no way to say "Hey, show me updates" in general.  And then there's that "Computer settings" thing at the bottom of the charms.  Why isn't that a button?  Why is it a TEENY TINY line of text?  It's hard to see, hard to find, and makes no sense with respect to the rest of the UI.  It should be a button, like everything else, and labled "Global Settings" or something, to differentiate from the app settings above.

    But the fact that toast notifications can appear and then disappear so quickly you don't exactly see them… and then they'er just gone with no indication they ever existed?  How is that acceptable in this day and age?

    Look at the Android notification center, for starters.  iOS has a great notification center.  Win8/RT/Metro needs one too.  And STAT.

  160. W8RPUser says:

    For machines that don't have touch capability, please provide the start button, along with a hotkey like Windows + M to switch to the metro start screen.

  161. Just Saying says:

    This blog should called "Destroying Windows 7"

  162. Also.. says:

    There NEEDS to be a TUTORIAL or guide the first time Windows is used.

    Also, I just noticed that when you right-click on the bottom left corner, a very nice menu pops up where you find a lot of the stuff in the old Task Menu and more.

  163. dave says:

    fast and fluid. call it windows diarrhea.

  164. ling ho says:

    Wow this is an amazing software Windows 8 is fantastic.

    I haven't been this excited about an operating system .

    the start screen has really grown on me. I have to admit that my initial reaction almost a year back was a bit "meh"

    but now can be  wonderful and As much as I like it on the desktop, I can't wait to use it on a tablet, as I know it'll be even better there.

    so can everyone not hate this amazing software and work harder to understand and love a new things!

    no forget this time 1. mark as answer  2. thank for feedback 3.log uri

  165. Simple wish. says:

    I hope and pray that Desktop GUI will be updated along with Windows Media Player – with all the pre-Vista and Vista elements removed and replaced with Metro.

  166. Notification center! Damn it! says:

    Windows 8 needs a notification center. Apple's next desktop OS would have one. I don't want to scavenge all throughout my tiles and click on EVERY tile just to see what its updates are. Too time consuming and frustrating.

    Just imagine the effort if a user has lots of apps.

  167. Fail. says:

    These native Metro Apps just lack FUNCTIONALITY. And the GUI is a mess. Just look at iPhoto and iCal, try to use them and see what's missing with Metro Apps. God, RTM is only weeks away. This Windows version is a big fail.

  168. Thanks for all the feedback everyone.  A number of you are trying to find ways to get to photos on other machines.  I would suggest running the SkyDrive Desktop client on one machine and then include the folders from other computers in your Library.  When you connect to that machine from the Photos app (made possible by the presence of the SkyDrive Desktop app), all the photos in that Library will be accessible.  

  169. @Michael Moulsdale

    Thanks for the kinds words, Michael.  You can print photos from the Photos through the Charms Bar.  This is one of the many ways we integrate nicely with the charms.

  170. Possible ways to add a Notification Center says:

    These are suggestions of possible ways to add a notification center to the Metro interface:

    1- You can add it as a Metro app that saves and manages Notifications.

    (The advantage in this approach is that it can be added to the OS even though RTM is at the door since you can just release the app to the Windows Store even after Windows 8 RTM is released and then it can be added as a default app by a simple Windows update. Another great advantage is that you don't have to go through the effort of greatly changing the user interface and figuring out ways for the Notifications Center to interact with the UI in general. It's a normal app treated like other apps. This also makes it possible to enhance the Notification Center even after it's released since it's an app that can be updated)

    2- You can put it in the Charms Bar as an additional button.

    3- You can put it next to the All Apps button

    4- You can add it as a button somewhere on the Start Screen

    Personally, I prefer the first option and I think it's the most viable option at this stage of development.

    Either way, a Notification Center is ESSENTIAL to a great Metro experience and will definitely make the operating system much more attractive.

    Regards,

  171. ling ho says:

    Wow this is an amazing software Windows 8 is fantastic.

    I haven't been this excited about an operating system .

    the start screen has really grown on me. I have to admit that my initial reaction almost a year back was a bit "meh"

    but now can be  wonderful and As much as I like it on the desktop, I can't wait to use it on a tablet, as I know it'll be even better there.

    so can everyone not hate this amazing software and work harder to understand and love a new things!

    no forget this time 1. mark as answer  2. thank for feedback 3.log uri

  172. John Howell says:

    A way to pin an album to the start menu (or an individual photo to the start menu) would be fantastic – and easy to add I imagine. Please add if you have the time! Thanks. It's all looking very nice.  Keep up the good work guys!  Looking forward to the Windows 8 launch!

    PS – Can anyone tell me if the recently announced Surface tablets will have 3G or better still, 4G versions?  My dream device is a Surface Windows 8 Pro 128 SSD with 4G!!!

  173. steveg says:

    My 2c: Photo app suffers the same thing all Metro apps do on a large screen: mouse fatigue. Too many kilometres/miles to cover between user interface elements.

    I think Metro will be pretty darn good on a tablet. Desktop, I really can't stand it, and I *want* to like it, it's just not particularly user-friendly.

  174. From everything I've seen my understanding is that on touch interfaces the movement is incredibly smooth when scrolling through items. I am therefore incredibly confused as to why using a mouse wheel to scroll through content is completely lacking any fluidity. It is also strange that one cannot click and drag to navigate as if one was using their finger, especially as holding down the mouse button provides no additional functionality. It seems like the mouse plays by different rules even though there's no reason for that to be the case. As always, Metro apps will be great on a tablet but on the desktop they really are horrible to use.

    I really like Windows 8 and have been using it as my primary operating system for months. The improvements made to the desktop are great and the Storage Spaces feature is brilliant (why is it so hidden?). However, Metro apps offer a very poor experience on the desktop – especially with larger displays, like my 30" 2560×1600 – and there are only a tiny handful that I find at all usable (Cocktail Flow, News Republic (when side-snapped)). There is just no way that I've ever consider using Photos on a desktop computer with a mouse and keyboard. It really is a horrible experience that offers me no benefits over the wide-array of desktop image browsers.

    It's too late to do much about the situation for Windows 8 but I urge you to really look at how WinRT apps are implemented in Windows 9. They are just too restrictive, clumsy and poorly optimised for large displays on a desktop PC. And please implement a unified interface, as right now it's a clustermuck as to what interface does what. Using the charms bar to shut down the computer – hidden under 'Settings' of all things – is simply ridiculous and flies in the face of common sense and good design.

  175. Abid Dine says:

    I have seen a lot of complaints here. All I know is that world is changing and Microsoft knows this. They are evolving with the change.

    @Sonfsky – Please monitor the commentS. Some bad language being used.

  176. Axel Rietschin says:

    My 2yo is ready for Surface and Metro. And I'm not kidding. Haters maybe are just too old and better stick with XP?

  177. Windows 8 is AWESOME! says:

    Best OS out there.  Everything else is trash compared to this.

  178. LTD says:

    @Axel Rietschin

    Yes and if I used a computer at a 2 year old level metro is fine. Adults need an adult OS…. go back and play with blocks, is that fun as an adult, useful?  No?  Build a device for 2 year olds and only people with that IQ will want to use it.

  179. John H says:

    Can't understand all the hate regarding metro. Love it.  It's the best interface/UI out there. You can do everything you did before faster and more accurately. Well done Microsoft!

  180. Geoffc1 says:

    @Brad Weed – you suggest:

    "running the SkyDrive Desktop client on one machine and then include the folders from other computers in your Library.  When you connect to that machine from the Photos app (made possible by the presence of the SkyDrive Desktop app), all the photos in that Library will be accessible."

    This is NOT a solution for those of us using Windows Home Server (either WHS v1 or WHS 2011). For one thing, the SkyDrive Client won't even install on WHS v1, and while it will install on WHS 2011, it is NOT supported by Microsoft in that scenario. That is the official response from Analy Otero, a member of your own team. See:

    answers.microsoft.com/…/1085f080-03c8-4847-b153-ebcf2a726c4a

    This needs to be fixed – and quickly.

  181. . says:

    Lousy photo experience on an abomination of a desktop UI?

    Thanks, but I'll pass. I'll stockpile my Windows 7 licenses.

  182. @Brad Weed (Microsoft)

    For many of us we use NAS boxes or even Linux file servers and are unable to run the Skydrive desktop application on them. How would you suggest we achieve our goal given these circumstances? I honestly do not understand why you guys are so eager to ignore networked locations as viable storage locations. We don't all have one tablet computer and our Facebook pictures!

  183. Tim says:

    Ugh.  This just sucks.  More consumer junk that really doesn't help.  No color management.  You "take care of everything for me" – unfortunately, not in the way I want.  All of this resourse spent on an application when the OS itself likely will still be unstable.  How about a way to back up these images?  By that, I don't mean the jpegs – I mean, back up thousands of 75MB raw files?  Got an app for that?  Oh, wait, that's an actual hard problem to which you don't have a solution – and it's a problem that should be solved by the OS.  What a waste.

  184. Lukasz says:

    I’ve made mockup of a little improvement to the current search in Windows 8. http ://dl. dropbox. com/u/60408703/Search%20improvement.png

  185. atul dobariya says:

    it is a very delightful experience to have this app on windows app..

    price-specifications.com

  186. DISHONEST MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES PLAYING THE FOOL. THEY ONLY ANSWER IF IT'S "CONVENIENT" FOR THEM. OTHERWISE THEY'RE HIDING IN SILENCE.

    SO DISGUSTING HOW YOU HANDLE THIS BLOG. I HAVE TO THROW UP BECAUSE OF YOUR MISLEADING, DISHONEST PR COMMUNICATION HERE.

    IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW INEPT, CLUMSY, AWKWARD COMPANY YOU HAVE. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW INEPT, CLUMSY, AWKWARD PRODUCTS YOU MADE OVER THE YEARS.

    MICROSOFT, YOU HAVE NO STYLE OR IMAGINATION. YOU'RE ALWAYS JUST TRY TO COPY OTHERS.

    SHAME ON YOU ABOUT THIS BLOG AND YOUR NEW OS!

  187. martin2 says:

    @Brad Weed (Microsoft)

    the charms / devices does not show my printer. I only see "secondary screen"

    In "reader" app  printing works fine with charms/device

  188. Still not stable and lacks functionality says:

    These blog entries these days just show how INCOMPLETE native Metro Apps are. You guys have a lot of work to do to keep them polished, ready and stable.

  189. Darren says:

    Hahahaha.

    Silly MS. can´t even get a simple picture viewer right to load pictures from shares with their superfunky new syle beat them all METRO.

    @ themoodude:

    Everything is about

    METRO, METRO, METRO

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    CLOUD, CLOUD, CLOUD

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    APPLE, APPLE, APPLE

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

    MONEY, MONEY, MONEY

    I have never seen a company asking so desperately for a fail. Errm. Wait a minute, there is Nokia.

  190. Yuuds says:

    I think windows 8 metro mode shuoud include the library,why not make a icon of library like windows7?I think that it'll better to use than before.

  191. @Tim

    Storage Spaces is the solution you want for RAW file backups.

  192. alvatrus says:

    A constructive comment about the destop/metro interface: they don't blend well on the desktop. Why?

    – moving the mouse to the upper left corner displays the metro task-switcher instead of the back-button on my internet explorer

    – moving the mouse to the upper right corner to close a maximised window shows the charms bar. (which is out of context on the desktop.)

    – moving the mouse to the lower left corner gives me the start screen instead of activating my left-most desktop application on the desktop.

    These UI elements make no sense on the desktop; just let us use the win-key to toggle between desktop and metro. As it is now, it feels like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  193. alvatrus says:

    On another note: As many already have commented on the metro apps, they are frightfully lightweight an lack a number of important features.

    If you want to commit your users to you, you have to make updates for those application available on a regular basis. Otherwise it's a 1.0-version fail.

  194. Fast Fluid & Fun says:

    Is just me? or the child in the photo above looks like Mick Jagger.

  195. Fast Fluid & Fun says:

    Is just me? or the child in the photo above looks like Mick Jagger.

  196. Pol says:

    @Brad Weed (Microsoft)

    You like to comment the positive feedback but why don't you respond all the negative feedback?

  197. Pol says:

    @Brad Weed (Microsoft)

    You like to comment the positive feedback but why don't you respond all the negative feedback?

  198. Woo hoo! Looking forward to more good stuff in Windows 8! Never stop innovating, guys! Thanks for the introduction to the Photo app, Brad. I appreciate your writing efforts.

  199. The Martian says:

    Is there no way of doing BATCH naming/renaming of files?

    In Windows 7's Windows Explorer, if you want to name/rename documents or for example 1,024 photos from a digital camera, you have to rename them one after another! This is certainly very tedious if you have to do it most of the time.

    (e.g. renaming camera photo names img0001 to img1024):

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0001

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0002

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0003

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0004

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0005

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0006

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0007

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0008

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0009

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0010

    Miami Beach at Sundown 0011

    Miami Beach at Sundown 1022

    Miami Beach at Sundown 1023

    Miami Beach at Sundown 1024

    Phew!

    In Window 8, why don't you guys add this functionality. Provide a dialogue box that asks the user to specify prefixes (name) and/or suffixes (number), after he has selected several group of files to rename. Even typing and then copying, pasting and appending numbers one after another doesn't cut it, if picture subjects, scenes, occasions or locations (assorted) differ.

    Thanks.

    Please don't rush off to "market". There is so much to be done!

    We just want the best. That's IT.

  200. F you Mierdasoft says:

    FAST FLUID & FUN!!!!

    MY ASS

  201. The Martian says:

    I mean AUTOMATIC Batch file renaming utility.

  202. Numio says:

    @The Martian

    I use Adobe Bridge to do that and works better than this garbage, is tedious to manage files with Metro Garbage.

  203. Numio says:

    @The Martian

    I use Adobe Bridge to do that and works better than this garbage, is tedious to manage files with Metro Garbage.

  204. Black Robocop says:

    @Trevor Sullivan

    Yaddy Yadda Microsoft! "Never stop innovating, guys!" RIGHT….

    Metro Innovation? hahaha

    Keep being a fanboy.

  205. Black Robocop says:

    @Trevor Sullivan

    Yaddy Yadda Microsoft! "Never stop innovating, guys!" RIGHT….

    Metro Innovation? hahaha

    Keep being a fanboy.

  206. I would love to have the option to share with other file-sharing services, such as Box.NET or Dropbox. Could you make this sharing provider, provider-agnostic?

    Cheers,

    Trevor Sullivan

  207. JUST REMOVE METRO! says:

    Yaddy Yadda Yaddy Yadda….

    REMOVE METROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  208. Asian Rambo says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    Hahaha this is hilarious!…. Watch that Steve!

  209. Asian Rambo says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    Hahaha this is hilarious!…. Watch that Steve!

  210. Mycrosort says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch

    here's another parody.

  211. NM says:

    Simply Amazing!

  212. Metro Hater says:

    cdn.digitaltrends.com/…/windows-8-metro-redesign-1.jpg

    Just look this, is better than the crappy Metro Ui

  213. @Microsoft

    How about putting file copy in the background?

    Explample: I plugged my ipod Touch and imported photos videos from it. I had to wait until all files were copie to continue using the App

    Regarding Metro style Apps made by Microsoft so far:

    Its extemely limited in terms of functionnality – Calendar and Calendar aren't anywhere near Outlook or iCal/Mail on OS X.

    It's perfectly understandable as you wouldn't be selling MS Office otherwise.

    Still… These Apps are very basic.

  214. pmbAustin says:

    So a general comment on Windows 8 and these Video/Music/Photo/Mail/People apps…

    Microsoft is coming to this party pretty late, and there are already existing ecosystems out there that people are heavily invested in.  In order for Win8/Metro/Surface to be a success, not only do these apps need to SHINE in comparison to their peers on iOS and Android (and these don't yet)… they need to play well with others, with faster/easier/simpler/better integration than the others.  That means you have to stop ignoring Google Picassa, for example.  And work well (as two-way as possible) with things like multiple Google Calendars, iCal, etc.  You need to make it easy to MIGRATE from these other established ecosystems, to yours.  And that means limiting or eliminating "one time import", and instead "just working".  You have a good start with integrations like twitter, facebook, flickr … but you need more, like Google+, Picassa, etc.

    And you need to work well and integrate with your own stuff too, across the board… which isn't always the case just yet (though getting significantly better in the last year or so, with more promised).  XBox/Win8/WP8 should all just see each other and work together and share with each other… without painful setup or having to grab a technical genius to make it work.

    And finally, you're going to need to AGGRESSIVELY update the WinRT/Metro environment itself, as well as all the apps… not on Windows OS timeframes, but every six months (or faster… every 3 months for the apps).  You're behind.  You need to catch up.  And you need to show an INVESTMENT on your part in catching up, so that consumers will feel okay about making the INVESTMENT to switch ecosystems.

    IMHO, you have a long way to go before GA this fall.  And I think it's imperative that you have significant updates soon after GA… not JUST to check off check-boxes that other platforms have checked already, but to dramatically improve the user experience, the intuitiveness, the consistency, the flexibility, the customizability, the stability… there is a TON of potential here, but imho not nearly enough of it is being realized yet.

  215. Go Away says:

    Steven Sinofsky should be fired!

    Go Away…. and have a Fast, Fluid & Fun .. well you know 😉

  216. Go Away says:

    Steven Sinofsky should be fired!

    Go Away…. and have a Fast, Fluid & Fun .. well you know 😉

  217. Fast Fluid & Fun my butt says:

    I wonder why Microsoft decided to use too much the Fast, fluid & fun factor.

  218. Renaming Windows 8 says:

    It should be called

    Windows FFF

    Windows Fingerprints

    Windows BigSmartphone OS

    Windows Colored Tiles

    Windows "oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!"

    Windows Garbage

  219. Apple Senior Software Engineer Spy says:

    Well there's nothing to do here.

  220. @Jin78 – I don't think they can make the file copy happen in the background. The current Metro environment is single-tasking with only limited background processing.

    @pmbAustin – agree completely. The included apps with Windows have traditionally been limited functionality versions…Outlook Express, Windows Movie Maker, etc. and this seems to be holding true as Microsoft is focusing more on interconnectivity (to a few key connectors) and minimal functionality for low-power pads rather than on including powerful feature-rich apps. Hopefully the ecosystem and appstore will allow better apps from MS and 3rd parties quickly.

  221. uk art director says:

    Really like this one. it's one of the most simplistic and well-thought-out  apps yet.

  222. W8RPUser says:

    I understand currently we're using the 'release preview' version, but it still feels like a lot of stuff is missing especially for non-touch capable hardware. Here's an example – I installed W8RP on my Dell laptop that has the mouse trackpad with vertical and horizontal scrolling capability. The metro UI looks very nice, and the obvious / intutive interface for me was to scroll it horizontally – may be because it works on iPad, I expect it to work on Windows 8 too – but the metro UI simply ignores the horizontal scrolling, and scrolls horizontally when I use vertical scrolling. The simple things like this make me hate the metro UI.

    Of course, when I used MAC the first time, my mouse wheel feels going in the opposite direction, but MAC lets me configure that. For Metro, there is no such configuration available – in all 'settings' dialogs (three, the last time I counted)!!!

    Please Microsoft, don't release the incomplete metro UI for non-touch capable PCs, or you'll lose the non-tablet users forever – please give us our desktop back!!!

  223. W8RPUser says:

    I understand currently we're using the 'release preview' version, but it still feels like a lot of stuff is missing especially for non-touch capable hardware. Here's an example – I installed W8RP on my Dell laptop that has the mouse trackpad with vertical and horizontal scrolling capability. The metro UI looks very nice, and the obvious / intutive interface for me was to scroll it horizontally – may be because it works on iPad, I expect it to work on Windows 8 too – but the metro UI simply ignores the horizontal scrolling, and scrolls horizontally when I use vertical scrolling. The simple things like this make me hate the metro UI.

    Of course, when I used MAC the first time, my mouse wheel feels going in the opposite direction, but MAC lets me configure that. For Metro, there is no such configuration available – in all 'settings' dialogs (three, the last time I counted)!!!

    Please Microsoft, don't release the incomplete metro UI for non-touch capable PCs, or you'll lose the non-tablet users forever – please give us our desktop back!!!

  224. pmbAustin says:

    @W8RPUser … my understanding (and this is purely 3rd hand) is that the GA release of Win8 will include touch gestures for trackpads, so that a trackpad will function much like a touch screen, and two finger side-ways scrolling should work as expected, along with pinch-to-semantic-zoom, etc…. basically standardizing the "gesture language" across direct touch (touch screen), indirect touch (touchpad), and mouse/keyboard.

    Though I *still* wish they'd implement "click and drag anywhere on the background to scroll start screen", rather than having to target the mostly-invsible, very tiny horizontal scrollbar at the bottom.

  225. Quality of rationality says:

    It is believed by some philosophers (notably A.C. Grayling) that a good rationale must be independent of emotions, personal feelings or any kind of instincts. Any process of evaluation or analysis, that may be called rational, is expected to be highly objective, logical and "mechanical". If these minimum requirements are not satisfied i.e. if a person has been, even slightly, influenced by personal emotions, feelings, instincts or culturally specific, moral codes and norms, then the analysis may be termed irrational, due to the injection of subjective bias.

  226. @Brad Weed – since you are a key part of the "Live" team, can you comment on the future of the Live products? Perhaps this could be a future blog post…Will they be sunsetted in favor of Metro built-in apps (Calendar, Photos, mail, etc.?) Or will there be new Metro versions with the same functionality as the current desktop ones? Will they continue to be enhanced/supported in the desktop environment? The Live products have a lot of fans and I hope they are not being backburnered like the WMC.

  227. The_Integral says:

    @The Martian

    Look for a free program called ReNamer

    It's absolutely the best for such task.

  228. W8RPUser says:

    @pmbAustin

    If it doesn't work in RC (if there's going to be one), I certainly won't feel inclined to upgrade my laptop/desktops to Windows 8.

    Also, wouldn't the trackpad need to be capable of understanding the two finger scroll, pinch etc.? What about the laptops that don't have these capabilities? How about the desktops where there are no trackpads? All these machines work perfectly fine today with windows 7 – and I won't be able to upgrade them to use the new (non-metro) improvements in Windows 8.

    May be buying Surface is the only way to use Windows 8 🙂

  229. cml says:

    zombies are coming

  230. The Martian says:

    @pmbAustin — 28 Jun 2012 1:40 PM

    "Microsoft is coming to this party pretty late"

    There is nothing wrong in coming to party late. What matters is, what you DO before and when you get there — "steal the show"!

    For example: There was this Great Teacher, in the first century, who was invited to a wedding party. During the party, the celebrants ran out of wine. Then this Teacher did something extraordinary — turned water into wine! According to the account, he told the attendants:

    “Draw some [of the wine] out now and take it to the director of the feast.” So they took it. When, now, the director of the feast tasted the water that had been turned into wine but did not know what its source was, although those ministering who had drawn out the water knew, the director of the feast called the bridegroom and said to him: “Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.”

    Note, that even though this particular wine 'came late', the director of the feast called it "fine wine" (mature) and inferred the previous wine was "inferior". Note also, that the "fine wine" wasn't just any wine; it was SPECIAL!

    So if Microsoft and their OEMs take their time and produce an extraordinary OS on extraordinary PCs, instead of hurrying off to the 'party', they will come out with "fine" products that will make their competitors' look "inferior."

  231. sebastian says:

    i hate that color choice so much, so drab, but the app looks good.  also, give us back our start button.

  232. Rational Zomby says:

    Determining optimality for rational behavior requires a quantifiable formulation of the problem, and the making of several key assumptions. When the goal or problem involves making a decision, rationality factors in how much information is available (e.g. complete or incomplete knowledge). Collectively, the formulation and background assumptions are the model within which rationality applies. Illustrating the relativity of rationality: if one accepts a model in which benefiting oneself is optimal, then rationality is equated with behavior that is self-interested to the point of being selfish; whereas if one accepts a model in which benefiting the group is optimal, then purely selfish behavior is deemed irrational. It is thus meaningless to assert rationality without also specifying the background model assumptions describing how the problem is framed and formulated.

  233. WINDOWS 8 Garbage says:

    cdn.memegenerator.net/…/22676088.jpg

    oups… hangon, excuse me, just a second!

  234. Joe Blogz says:

    Q1. How do we block adds in Metro apps – e.g. from the Music app?

    Q2. Shouldn't you have a blog for Surface?!

  235. Real McCoy says:

    In people hub, let the users save the alpha-numeric numbers (like 111-Microsoft). Moreover, give more options to organize phone number format of contacts. More on: windowsphone.uservoice.com/…/2956163-phone-number-format

    Also, if you guys are going to implement the dialer app for Windows 8 tablets, please don't forget to provide cursor and alphanumeric copy/paste feature.

    Once you do that, ask the Windows Live team to update the http://contact.live.com web app to respect the phone number format when we "edit" the contact online which was previously aired from PC, Phone, tablet etc. When I tried to edit the phone number, firstly it doesn't auto-detect the country, even if the country code is present. Secondly, it strips all the decorators (), -, Space etc. (except +)…

    Thank you.

  236. Maxxy says:

    Cleartype is missing in Metro, and it doesn't work well in Desktop.

  237. For all you people complaining about how many missing features this Photo app has, remember it's pre-version 1.0 Beta.

  238. Bobby says:

    When I heard that Windows was moving to Metro, I though metro apps were going to be similar to a Zune desktop client and I love the idea because zune desktop client has a beautiful design but these new metro apps (photo, mail, calendar) are not beautiful at all. They look horrible.

    Google recently introduces something called Google Now and the design of it was influenced by metro i am sure of it but google made it look beautiful (which is kinda surprising) and that's how i though metro apps would look on windows but i guess i was wrong.

  239. DarienHawk67 says:

    @ Darren:

    ". . .  it is full of idiocracy and so much focused on forcing things on users instead of giving them a choice. Your are blogging about useless ridiculous full screen apps which lack the most basic functions and telling us how great they are."

    I, and so many others, agree.  Not only with the above quote, but with a majority of your post.

  240. DarienHawk67 says:

    @etacarinae1

    I was one who has been clamoring for video scrubbing in WMP for a while.  Still no scrubbing.  Want to go frame by frame using the arrow keys, QuickTime.  Why MSFT fails to incorporate this simple, but useful, feature is beyond my comprehension.  I'm sure that is some technical or marketing reason as to why.

  241. ali_carter says:

    @Bobby: Metro is new, is modern, is different. One window, 8 colours and the operating system's name is 8.