The Windows 8 Task Manager

As we mentioned during the Windows 8 keynote at //build/, every 15 years or so we choose to update Task Manager. Of course that was said in jest as we have incrementally improved the utility in just about every release of Windows. For Windows 8, we took a new look at the tool and thought through some new scenarios and a new way of tuning the tool for “both ends of the spectrum” in terms of end-users and those that need very fine-grained control over what is going on with their PC. Ryan Haveson, the group program manager of our In Control of Your PC team, authored this post. Note: This post is about Task Manager, not about closing Metro style applications 🙂

We are really excited to share some of the improvements we are making to the Task Manager in Windows 8. Task Manager is one of the most widely used apps, and it has a long history. It showed up in early versions of Windows as a simple utility to close and switch between programs, and has had functionality added to it through several releases to make it what it is today.

Windows 3.0 Task List, with buttons: Switch To, End Task, Cancel, Cascade, Tile, Arrange Icons.

Figure 1: Windows 3.0 Task List

Windows NT 4.0 Task Manager with buttons: End Task, Switch To, New Task; and 3 tabs: Applications, Processes, and Performance
Figure 2: Windows NT 4.0 Task Manager (now with “new task”)

Windows XP Task Manager with new Networking and Users tabs
Figure 3: Windows XP Task Manager (with new Networking and Users tabs)

Windows 7 Task Manager with tabs for Applications, Processes, Services, Performance, Networking, Users; and buttons: End Task, Switch To, New Task.
Figure 4: Windows 7 Task Manager

Because Task Manager is so widely used, we knew that any changes we made would be noticed, so of course we were both excited and cautious about the effort. At the beginning, there were a few key problems that we knew we wanted to address:

  • Build a tool that was well designed, thoughtful, and modern. After all, even a technical tool can benefit from a focus on design.
  • Fill some of the functionality gaps that drove some of our most technical customers to use other tools such as Resource Monitor and Process Explorer.
  • Organize and highlight the richness of data available to make it more elegant and clear for those who want access to a new level of data.

How do people use Task Manager?

To really make Task Manager great at what it currently does, we wanted to first understand how people were using it. Over the years, it had grown to support many different scenarios. As of Windows 7, you could use Task Manager to close applications, to find out detailed data about your processes, to start or stop services, to monitor your network adaptor, or even to perform basic system administrator tasks for currently logged on users. That is a lot of functionality.

Because of the investments we made in telemetry, we had some pretty good data to start with. We combined this with individual customer interviews and observation in the research lab to understand what people were doing with Task Manager and why they were doing it.

Image of Task Manager from Windows 7, overlaid with data on usage: Applications and Processes tabs: 85% of all usage; all of the remaining tabs combined: 15% of all usage.
Figure 5: Which tabs are people using?

This data is pretty interesting. What it shows is that people are spending most of their time using the first two tabs, which are pivoted around views of applications and processes. Although it is not surprising, it was interesting to see that the usage was roughly evenly split between the Applications tab and the Process tab. This indicates that there must be some significant detail lacking in the Applications tab, which is causing people to go to the Process tab. So, next we looked at how people were using the Process tab to understand what they were doing there.

Bar chart showing which columns are sorted by users: CPU Usage = 29%, private working set = 26%, ImageName = 25%, User name = 5%, and then Description, Ser-Name, Ap-Task, Ser-Status, Ser-PID, and Ser-Description are all at 3% or less.
Figure 6: Many users sort the process view on resource usage

When we looked at this data, and then correlated it with interviews and observations of users in our research labs, we found that people were using the process tab either to look for something that was not on the applications list (e.g. a background or system process), or to see which processes were using the most resources.

So next we looked at what actions people take in Task Manager.

Bar chart comparing the top user actions in Task Manager: Process tab – End process button = 12%; Process tab – Delete Key to end process, Applications tab – End Task = 20%; all other actions are indicated at 3% or lower.
Figure 7: The goal is often to close or “kill” an app or process
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Looking at the data and talking with customers, we determined that the most common usage of the tool was to simply end or “kill” an application or a process.

Goals of the new Task Manager

Based on all of the data and our background research, we decided to focus energy on three key goals:

  • Optimize Task Manager for the most common scenarios. Focus on the scenarios that the data points to: (1) use the applications tab to find and close a specific application, or (2) go to the processes tab, sort on resource usage, and kill some processes to reclaim resources.
  • Use modern information design to achieve functional goals. Build a tool that is thoughtful and modern by focusing on information design and data visualization to help achieve the functional scenario goals.
  • Don’t remove functionality. While there are some notable core scenarios, there is a really long list of other, less frequent usage scenarios for Task Manager. We explicitly set a goal to not remove functionality, but rather to augment, enhance, and improve.

A key issue we intended to address was how we could add all of the interesting new functionality without overwhelming users. To solve this, we pivoted around a “More/Fewer details” button similar to the new copy file dialog model.

Windows Task Manager in Windows 8 in default view, with arrow indicating button to show “More details”.
Figure 8: Fewer details view

New Windows Task Manager in More details view, with arrow indicating “Fewer details” button.
Figure 9: More details view

This model allowed us to optimize the default view (“Fewer details”) around the core scenario of finding an application and closing it. It also allowed us to add much more detail in the other view because it would only show up when someone asked for it. In the “More details” view we decided to stay with the existing tabbing model of Task Manager and focus on improving the content of each of the tabs. This would help us to augment, enhance, and improve what we already had, without removing functionality.

Scenario #1: Ending processes quickly and efficiently

We know from many third-party tools (or tools like sysinternals Process Explorer) there are many things we could add to Task Manager for power users, but we knew we had to first address the mainstream users because we didn’t want to create something that would overwhelm the majority of our customers. We will of course continue to value third-party tools as they allow for specialization and unique innovation around this and many tasks. For the default view, we designed a minimalist experience that appeals to the needs of the broadest customer base and most common scenario. When you launch Task Manager for the first time in Windows 8, you see a very clean view of your running apps. We made the default view great at one thing: killing misbehaving apps. And we removed everything that did not directly support that core scenario.


Default view of Task Manager in Windows 8, showing a list of 7 applications running, and one of these, Microsoft Sync Center is “not responding.” There is one button: “End Task”

 Figure 10: Default view of Task Manager in “Windows 8”

The value of the default view is all about what we took out. We removed everything not focused on the core task of killing apps, which makes the design focused and efficient. Specifically:

  • We took out the tabs from this view, since they distract from the core scenario.
  • We removed the menu bar from the default view.
  • This view shows just the apps, and removes individual windows that can’t be killed anyway.
  • We took out things that clutter the experience, such as resource usage stats and technical concepts that most users don’t understand.
  • No double prompts. If you click ”End task” we don’t ask you, “Are you sure?”, we just kill the app, and quickly! (But be careful, because we also won’t prompt you to save!)

Check out how much cleaner and more focused the new Task Manager is compared to the Windows 7 Task Manager with the same applications and windows opened:

: image of Windows 7 Task Manager, Applications tab, showing a long, scrolling list of multiple instances of the same app, plus 3 buttons: End Task, Switch To, and New Task.

Image of Windows 8 Task Manager, Applications tab, with a simple list of 7 running applications, and one button: End Task. 
Figure 11: Windows 7 and Windows 8 Task Managers, compared

After taking out all of the extras, you are left with a tool that is great at one thing: killing a misbehaving app. And this is perfect for many users who are experiencing the pain of a “not responding” app that won’t go away using the app’s Close button.

Scenario #2: Diagnosing performance issues

A lot of what is new with Task Manager is shown only when you go to the “More details” view. This is the realm of the power user, so keep in mind that mainstream users may never want to get into this level of detail, and all of their needs should be met by the ”Fewer details” view above.

Here is what you will see in this new view:


More details view of Windows 8 Task Manager, Processes tab, showing columns for Process, Status, CPU, Memory, Disk, and Network. Content in columns is shaded different colors to indicate the highest numbers for each item.

Figure 12: The new processes tab and the heat map

The heat map

The most noticeable difference in the new processes tab is the new heat map, which represents different values with color. Our telemetry data told us that it was very common for users to go to the process tab, sort by CPU or memory utilization, and then look for applications consuming more resources than expected. The nice thing about a heat map is that it allows you to monitor anomalies across multiple resources (network, disk, memory, and CPU utilization) all at the same time, without having to sort the data. It also allows you to find the hot spot instantly without needing to read numbers or understand concepts or specific units. In usability studies we used an eye-tracking system to test what users looked at when presented with various ways of visualizing this information. This helped us narrow our choices to a design that efficiently draws user’s eyes to the most significant resource problems. Below you can see the eye movement of a participant in one of our eye-tracking studies overlaid on top of a screen shot of what he was looking at. The red dot indicates a place where his eye paused, and the lines show where his eye had quickly moved from previously.

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Network and disk counters

Many power users supplement their usage of Task Manager with other tools such as Resource Monitor simply because in the past Task Manager did not show per-process network and disk attribution. This was a gap, when you consider that a spinning disk or multiple applications competing for network bandwidth are the root cause of many perceptible PC performance issues. The new Task Manager now shows these resources at the same level of detail as memory and CPU.

Lighting up the resource usage

One of the biggest causes of PC performance issues is resource contention. When a particular resource is being used at a rate above a threshold number, the column header will light up to draw your attention to it. Think of this as a warning indicator, letting you know a good place to start looking if you are experiencing performance issues. Below, you can see that the CPU column header is highlighted to draw your attention to the fact that you may have multiple applications competing for CPU time.

Details view of Task Manager Processes tab, showing one application at 94.2% CPU, another at 1.8% CPU, and the column header for CPU shaded a darker color to indicate that CPU is a “hot spot”

Figure 13: Resource usage indicators


Grouping by applications, background processes, and Windows processes

A big challenge with today’s Task Manager is that it is hard to know which processes correspond to an application (apps are generally safe to kill), which are Windows OS processes (killing some of these can cause a blue screen), and which are miscellaneous background processes that may need to be explored more deeply. The new Task Manager shows processes grouped by type, so it is easy to keep these separated while still providing an ungrouped view for situations where you need it.

New task manager showing processes grouped by type: Applications, Background processes, and Windows processes.
Figure 14: Grouping by process type

Friendly names for background processes (and services, and everything else)

Looking at the screen shot above, do you see the line item for “Print driver host for applications”? In the old Task Manager, this showed up as “splwow64.exe”.

But if you still want to see the executable name, of course you can add it back as an optional column.

Grouping top-level windows by app

One of the most distracting parts of the old Task Manager is that the Applications tab was a flat list that included all of the top-level windows from all processes in the system. While the list of top-level windows is interesting information to have, it is often overwhelming to look at and sometimes a single window cannot be killed without closing all the other windows for that process. To address this, the new Task Manager now groups top-level windows under their parent process. It allows for a much cleaner view for typical usage, helps you focus on killable processes, process resource usage, and allows you to see which windows are owned by each process so you know what will be closed if you kill it.

new task manager showing an expandable/collapsible list of 6 different Outlook messages grouped under a single Microsoft Outlook parent process.
Figure 15: Grouping top-level windows by process

What’s a fussvc.exe?

Have you ever looked through the process list, seen something like “fussvc.exe” and wondered what it was? Adding friendly names was a good first step to resolving this problem (fusssvc.exe is actually the Fast User Switching Utility Service), but of course, to really find out what this process is, you need to search the web. The new Task Manager integrates a search context menu on right-click, so you can go directly to your default search engine (which you can customize) to see more details and relevant information. This can make a huge difference when deciding whether a background process is doing something useful or just wasting cycles.

Search the web for details on obscure processes
Figure 16: Search the web for details on obscure processes


Search results for “fussvc.exe Fast User Switching Utility Service”
Figure 17: Search results for “fussvc.exe Fast User Switching Utility Service”

Service host details and friendly names

If you open up Windows 7 Task Manager to the Processes tab and select “Show process from all users,” you will probably see eight seemingly identical instances of “svchost.exe”. This is one of the most commonly noted “not very informative” sources of information we provided. Of course, some of you know that this is really just a service host process and you can add the PID column, go to the services tab, sort by PID, see which services correlate to that PID, and then reverse-look-up friendly names for each of the services… but that is a lot of work (and not everybody knows this)! With the new Task Manager, we show all of the services grouped by process with friendly names for each of them, so you instantly can see what is going on when an instance of svchost is consuming a lot of resources:

Windows 8 Task Manager showing a list of several services under the parent process:“Service Host: Local Service”.Figure 18: Service host grouping and details

As you can see, we added quite a lot to the new Task Manager (and we only showed you the first tab!). Task Manager was a unique opportunity for user experience designers and researchers working together with technical program managers and engineers to create a clean, organized, and efficient design. We made it more streamlined for mainstream users, and more detailed for power users.

I will leave you with a quick demo where you can see what it looks like in action.

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— Ryan

Comments (363)

  1. Keep this blog post coming. We like it. 😀

  2. domenicoav says:

    Best Work!!

  3. Phil says:

    Is there going to be metro style task manager????

  4. Nice post.  The changes look nice, and your explanation of your reasoning behind them is helpful.  Thanks for the attention to detail you guys are using in Windows 8.

  5. sovan says:

    this update of windows 8 task manager is really a welcoming feature, but after running metro apps it gets suspended which are not used by user,but still it consumes ram and cpu usage,which slows my pc down having 2 gb of i have to ignore using metro apps.

  6. tic says:

    7901.FBL_UEX_ICP.101213-1800 little old no?

  7. @sovan suspended apps do not consume CPU and if other apps need the RAM then the suspended apps are unloaded.  So you do not pay any penalty and nothing is slower.

  8. I love it!!! I love a lot about Win8, MS should focus on the other positives that Win8 brings like this new task manager. Start screen will take longer to sort out, but for me the new Task Manager is one if my favorite new features. Even though I despised the ribbon in Office, I am a huge fan of the Ribbon in Explorer. I think it is comes down to relevant groupings. Office ribbon still had too many hiddn (but important) options within the ribbon.

  9. raider says:

    New Task Manager is insanely great. Very powerful and even attractive too. Love it.

    PS: in the first video, with old build 7901, I've seen the user tile on the taskbar. Any chances to see it coming back into future builds for classic desktop? (Along with the Start menu… Eheheheh 😀 )

  10. Someone says:

    It's an improvement, but I still feel like you're duplicating features of your own excellent tool (Process Explorer). I don't get this. You don't want to "scare" users, yet by hiding the technical stuff from them and always baby-feeding them simple things, these "users" will never become power users and will never be able to help themselves. Sigh.

    Hear me out for this one: I think I speak for most of us when I say that, for the love of God and everything that's holy, please, PLEASE, make an option to "always enable more details" or "always enable advanced view" or something to this effect. Just as with the copy file dialog, it becomes EXTREMELY irritating when I, a power user, has to click on "more details" EVERY SINGLE TIME to see what's happening under the hood, so to speak.

    So please, do us all a favor and grant us the option to enable the advanced view for these tools/windows/dialogs by default, and make it stick between reboots!

  11. You did a great job with the new Task Manager. Users may be complaining about the Metro UI, but as far as the Task Manager goes, I have no complaints. It's one of my favorite new features in Windows 8, and now I see all of the flaws with Task Manager in Windows Vista/7 that I never noticed before. Congratulations on a great design for Task Manager in Windows 8!

  12. Martin says:

    I like that task manager.. but i wonder – why so old fashioned? Couldnt you make it full screenwith dizzymaking icons and stuff? would suit the new start menu more… j/k

    I really like it and hope it will be as useful as Process Explorer is.

  13. I really like the new taskmanger, really clean view and i can easily find what i want.

    But the old Taskmanager won't be included anymore? Hope so, because in WDP it still excist with the new one!

    #When can i pre-order this wonderful product?#

  14. Dario D. says:

    Eye-tracking. ^-^

    In the future, why not develop an eye-based alternative to mousing and touch, where you just look at stuff on the screen, then click by making a tiny click sound with your mouth. (a camera would just watch your eyes, and listen for your clicks and more specific commands. Left and right-click would be differentiated by clicking at 2 different pitches.)

  15. babyneedslove says:

    I love this.  This is progress.

    Why can't this kind of 'love' and attention be spent on Start MENU, Taskbar, Notifications and Gadgets?

    Also, agree with @someone… let us enable all these advanced features permanently – I don't want to have to click 'more details' every single time.

  16. ordag says:

    I like the new visualization of cpu/memory/network/… information. I'd love to also see GPU stats like the recent Process Explorer shows.

  17. Kevin says:

    Why the heading of "Windows Task Manager?" I assume the user will know he's using Windows, so heading it simply as "Task Manager" seems a bit less verbose, no? I suppose the same can be said for many elements of Windows. For example, instead of "Windows Media Player", why not just "Media Player?" Or, "Explorer" instead of "Windows Explorer?" I feel there is excessive Windows branding on many core aspects of the operating system.

  18. DamionM says:

    You did a good job on the task manager.. Now please do the same on the other areas that we keep telling you  need to work on we know a good thing when we see.

    Hopefully when switching between apps is fixed we will see something that resembles a task manager for metro.

  19. excitedbymuch? says:

    This I'm excited about!

    Great, great job.

    Just one thing – this is Windows – not Mac OS/X – why not have a 'less' button instead and by default show the detailed view (not just here, but everywhere there is now a 'more' button).

    That way, people will see the power of Windows first hand – they don't have to do anything about it, but at least it puts the idea(s) in their head.

    People that really are afraid of seeing/thinking too much can use the 'less' button (and go ahead and make it 'stick' for them).

  20. SuNcO says:

    Off topic – Would be nice to see why some small changes (one post with 10 small changes maybe). For example, one of the thing that I hate about Macs is the centered title bar text, and it appear that Windos 8 uses that way

  21. Briantist says:

    This is a sign of some really good work by Microsoft on Windows 8 development, this is almost everything the task manager could have been…

  22. @Someone: The Task Manager remembers its state between sessions so there is no need for an option.  It reloads the way you left it, “More Options”, windows size, window position, everything.

  23. SimonRev says:

    Frankly, the new task manager is the best part of Windows 8 that I have used so far.  Great job there.

  24. Great job to Ryan's team – these extra additions, such as tree branching + heat map all the way to it's simplified UX are tailored well for both lay and experienced.

  25. somelikemeasiam says:

    @Jon DeVaan,

    Thanks for the additional info – but it is not that way with Windows 7 and the 'Show Processes from All Users' button.

    Hope the default becomes the Detailed view when checked once.

    That is what @Someone was hoping/asking for (I think).

  26. Alexei Mihalchuk says:

    Remember to add/fix:

    – Ctrl + (nummeric plus sign) shortcut to your custom controls.

    – Double-click column to auto size.

    – Correct DPI calculation at 150 %.

    – Currently, resizing the details pane resets the column width.

  27. Onuora Amobi says:

    I like the UI for the new and refined Task Manager. With every update of Windows, the graphic design gets a lot more smooth and attractive.


  28. ML says:

    I like the ability the 'search the web' option for processes!  In addition, the grouping is awesome.  Look forward to windows 8, might be my first tablet 😀 .

  29. Scott says:

    Reminds me of Process Explorer. Nice job!

  30. Hello !

    These changes are more than welcome. Good thinking, simple and efficient.


  31. far says:

    awesome man, keep up the good work!

  32. This is great work, Steven.

    I was thinking about the End Task button:

    Maybe an even faster way to kill a process would be to have the End Task button appear on the same line as the app name (on the right), when the mouse hovers over it, wouldn't it? That would make it an easy one click operation.

    To keep the End Task visible (in case people who don't move the mouse), you would keep bottom End Task button, and add checkboxes next to the app/process names. This would even add the ability to kill more than one process at a time.

    Or to go even further: the Window Close button could offer End Task functionality when an application stops responding. Let's face it, when you get the "Not responding" message, if you try to click Close, it's obviously to force close the offending app (maybe with a warning if necessary).

    Love the service host friendly names; we've been waiting for that a long time.

  33. Brent says:

    Like. Wish you continue this more/less detail in things like the App Menu you showed in the last post.

  34. cranberry says:

    Definitely love the improvements made here! My favorite features are the default columns CPU, memory, disk and network with its heatmap (in the old Task Manager you had to manually switch on numerous advanced columns that even me as a programmer didn't know all), and the option to show which services belong to which svchost instance. It's good too that you do not list every single window in the applications view anymore, that was sometimes very distracting.

  35. Mark Ransom says:

    @Kevin, Why the heading of "Windows Task Manager?"  Probably because by prefixing everything with "Windows" they can get a trademark on it if they need it. Seriously. I say this as the former lead of a product called "Media Center" which was not at all related to Microsoft's.

  36. Mark Ransom says:

    I get a little nervous when a destructive action that can't be undone is enabled with a single button click, especially when that button has a keyboard shortcut. I hope that your screen captures are 100% accurate, as they imply that nothing is selected when Task Manager starts.

  37. DaveG says:

    Nice improvements, but geez the graphical "style" you've got going on with Win8 Aero is just bizarre.  Large centered title font (that doesn't stay centered depending on what you've selected), opaque blue border with grey elements?  A file menu (still)?  Windows 95-era blockiness?

    I hope this design is being worked on still.  I do like the org of the new task manager (mostly), but although Win7's was barely changed, I hope you're taking the time to make the desktop look a little more cohesive.  I realize I'm not going to get (what I see as obvious) design similarities with Metro, but it would be nice to see the same design amongst the desktop apps themselves.

  38. Tired of Purposely Incomplete Answers says:

    @Steven Sinofsky:

    You said "@sovan suspended apps do not consume CPU and if other apps need the RAM then the suspended apps are unloaded.  So you do not pay any penalty and nothing is slower."

    This is an incomplete answers. Yes you do pay a penalty — your "active apps" list is polluted with applications you no longer care about. When you swipe between apps it takes longer because you have to swipe through them. Using the <ALT><TAB> switcher takes you longer to identify the app you want because it's polluted by these dead apps you no longer care about.

    Give up your sacred cow of "No Chrome even if it hurts" on this Steven; please give us the ability to close metro apps without having to resort to opening a task manager.

  39. @Someone: the new copy file dialogue also persists the "More details" setting, so if you expand it, it will show up expanded next time.

  40. @Tired of Purposely Incomplete Answers

    Allow me to complete the answer for you. Microsoft said in a previous post that there will be a way to close Metro-style apps without the Task Manager. Therefore, the answer is complete, if a little bit scattered. Therefore, there will be a way to prevent this pile-up of unused apps seen in the Windows Developer Preview. It would be crazy to not let users close Metro apps at this point, when even Windows Phone 7 lets users close apps.

  41. @someone. The settings and customizations are saved once you make them.  They become the defaults.

    Please, regardless of your own spiritual or religious beliefs, we would ask that comments refrain from bringing them to the blog.  We appreciate all points of view, but ask that we keep the blog focused on the issues as some might take offense to raising such topics in this context.

  42. App Store says:

    I agree with the possibility to close Metro apps, not because of RAM/performance issues, but because of having a list of undesired apps which will become an annoyance…

    Great work on Task Manager.

  43. SC says:

    Put me down as a +1 on the GPU column. It's something that's desperately needed these days, with just about every app trying to offload CPU processing to the GPU. When user interaction starts to slow down, I find about half of the time it's GPU related in some way. Would love to have a way to find what the offending app is.

  44. thank you very much for your quick reply.just now signed up in windows live and posting comments.I am having another problem i.e. when I play games or play any hd video, video playback or the game slows down but when the videos or the game is played in windows 7 in same pc it plays smoothly.dont know the reason might be it is dev preview so this kind of problem is the way start screen and switching between desktop and other metro apps is smooth and fast and I like the swaping way to switch from left from one app to other.i have done this in my three years old desktop and swaping is really faster.its 2.30 am and i am awake to post on your blog.

  45. Also really liking the new task manager. I especially love the addition of disk and network information in a more sensible format (transfer rate) because read/write delta wasn't very informative as the interval of measurement seemingly wasn't constant.

    I have two wishes/suggestions:

    – When resizing the task manager window, expand the first column ("Process") and keep everything else ("Status", "CPU", etc.) aligned right.

    – Maybe add a checkbox to the bottom of the detail view "Always show detailed view", because for us power users, this new design means having perform an additional mouse click with almost every use of the new Task Manager.

    Great work, otherwise!

  46. Luigi Bruno says:

    Grouping, finding a process' details in the web and service host grouping and details (like Process Explorer does) are very useful features.

    Great work!

  47. issa says:

    very nice work ,live the ability to see the network usage for eache prosses

  48. SuNcO says:

    @WindowsVista567 As a developer, Windows Phone 7 doesn't allow users to close apps. Well, you can close XNA apps (aka games) but not Silverlight

    If you want to close an app, as developer, you must create an error and then the app will crash. Is kind an exit

    As here says, there is no need to close apps because the OS is the one who stops it when it needs

    We are used to close apps, but once you use Windows Phone 7, you forget about closing apps

  49. Please please we need of a detailed benchmark tool and a monitoring app for the temperature system to have our pc safe (for example, a lot of GPU in notebooks arrive nearly 90 °C, we need to be safe, so please add a way to get off our pc when the pc arrive in a temperature that we want)……These things can be perfectely added in the task maneger (really good job here 🙂  )

  50. Susanna (2nd try, you keep filtering my posts out) says:

    Great improvement, very nice!!!

    Bug: when "Always on Top" is selected, Performance tab, Ethernet, View Network Details, then you can't see the network details window.

    Bug: the network details window is not resizable, and because it refreshes, you can't view the whole list without scrolling down again every 60 seconds.

    Bug: Performance tab, CPU, show kernel times: I don't see a different color for kernel times (or any change when showing kernel times).

    Request: please make the columns auto-resize or otherwise make it unnecessary to resize column headers all the time.  When a column is automatically resized, it should include the column header name in the calculation, not just the data, or else you often can't see the description of the data.

    Request: on the Startup tab, please list much more information, similar to what you get with Sysinternals Autoruns.exe (or have an Advanced button to show this).  Otherwise, this tab is not very useful.


  51. Keith Hill says:

    I think you need an even more simplified task manager that is a Metro app (or perhaps a charms bar thing) to allow folks to kill apps (perhaps just Metro apps). The context switch back to the desktop for killing a Metro apps seems harsh.  Also, on the existing task manager can you widen the column resize hit target to something greater than 1 pixel?

  52. @SuNcO

    To be honest, I've never used Windows Phone 7, but I've read online that the newest version, "Mango," now lets users close apps (though I may be wrong). I disagree with the "you don't need to close apps" statement, and I'm sure that almost every Windows 8 user will agree with me.

  53. John says:

    The icons is getting old, and tired to look at.

  54. @ Keith Hill – I totally agree…we shouldn't have to go from the new UI to the old, unless we really need to (for legacy apps sake).

    I really do hope MS have built a METRO version of the Task Manager…especially since many users here probably believe that it is not possible to do so in the new UI (they think its very limited).

  55. Pete Cooper says:

    Looks great!

    The sleek first pane is excellent and you mentioned that you wanted to keep it this way to avoid scaring non-power users.  Any chance we could have an option (registry key?) to make the detailed view the default for power users?  Or is the new task manager going to remember the state it was in when last closed like the current one does?  i.e. i close on the process view so it opens back up there.  That would be very useful for power users.

  56. App Store says:

    @Steven Your team should make a Telemetry study when Windows 8 Beta is released to see if the suspend apps on Windows 8 how much will be used. The idea is to check how much 'background apps' are really never used after 1 time, and how much time people will loose having to swipying or TaskManager through them.

  57. I love the Windows 8 Task Manager, the groupings and friendly names (no more svchost.exe!), but you didn't show the Task Manager, just the Processes tab.

    I agree on the comment about dead processes that still show up in the Processes tab. Maybe they would be easier to spot if they could be grayed out, and there could be a context menu option to end all the dead processes.

    There is also this big discrepancy in Windows 7 between the memory used in the Processes tab (for instance 744MB) and the memory used in the Performance tab (1.55GB).

    I really would like to be able to see where these memory leaks come from, for instance from the browser when playing dozens of Flash videos in the same YouTube tabs, or after downloading files. It would help troubleshooting memory issues a lot.

    I don't know if the Performance tab has changed, but since it monitors the CPU and other areas, it would be great to add temperature monitoring to it, or to a separate tab.

    All CPUs, GPUs, hard drives, now come with built-in temperature sensors, and some computer cases even come with their own, yet I can't see this basic information that is important to monitor in Task Manager. I need to use third-party tools to access SMART and other properties.

    By the way, it would be great to have a repository of all these screenshots for reference, especially for people who want to discover Windows 8 but can't install the early builds.

    And please, make the first beta build available in a non-ISO format, as a small executable that can be run directly from Windows, for instance to upgrade an existing installation or to install on a second partition, and will download the rest of the image as needed. The extra step of burning a DVD just to install a beta version is overkill and really archaic.

  58. App Store says:

    @WindowsVista567 you can close wp7 apps when you are on apps pressing back button, not when you are on the App Switcher.

  59. SuNcO says:


    One of the principles of WP7 is focusing on battery life, that's why the OS care so much about memory. WP7 freezes all app activity to do that

    In fact, there is a way on closing apps, you only need to go back and back until you reach the first page of the app (there is no official X button or menu to close an app)

    The idea on closing apps maybe is because privacy concerns, but as you may read before, Windows 8 is focused on the idea that every single user must have an own account on the Pc/Tablet and is very easy to switch between them

    Maybe I understand your point if you write some examples on why you need to close apps

    Well, that is what i think about closing apps. Maybe some official statement helps

    Sorry about my bad english, hope you understand what I try to say

  60. Great info, but static info.

    Written posts are informative, but I think that videos could explain much better each topic. Video allows a more vivid content. Another reason is practicality. Marina Dukhon's post was too lengthy. Showing and explaining things at the same time is more practical, I think. Saludos.

  61. Panda X says:

    It'd be nice if you can stop/start services from the task manager instead of having to open services.msc.

  62. Bellevue Paul says:

    In many aspects of this blog, I see a new philosophy of trying to give the regular user better information on which to make decisions, using a rich GUI experience to help the user understand the improved information quickly. This is something I've long tried to design into my vertical applications as well. Very nice work!

  63. Dlf says:

    Please think of the color-blind! Allow us to change the colors to what WE want.

  64. CvP says:

    please include cpu/gpu/hdd temperatures.

  65. Rake0 says:

    I like the change, however I still believe, after playing with the new Task Manager, that you failed to address the most basic question for power users: "Why do people use third party tools, like Process Explorer, and how can we bring that functionality in here." And after playing with it, and even in your post here it is clear that you did address a few cosmetical changes, (and they are great!), and a new heatmap, but that is really all. Power users will still require to use third party tools, you have done nothing really for power users.

  66. How come you haven't shown the new Performance Tab. I though it was really cool to have everything in the left and a more detailed explanation on the right instead of everything being crammed in there. Is there going to be another post about the task manager ? Because I thought the performance Tab was completely avoided.

  67. Evonet says:

    Trackback: The new Windows 8 Task Manager…/The-new-Windows-8-Task-Manager.aspx

  68. w1ngnut says:

    Great work guys!!!! Just make this gui themeable and we're all set!

    Oh, and if you could memorize user preferences (expanded by default / groupped by default).

  69. Fantastic stuff here.

    This is a fundamental part of windows that needed attention, that we use to get things done, and the team has come up with a set of obvious, simple, well implemented improvements.

    This is what we want to see more of in Windows 8. Not attempts to force us to do everything differently – fix what's broken, make everything smoother and faster. Rename Win 8 Starter as Win 8 Tablet and leave the "start screen" there.

  70. Myrddin Emrys says:

    Of all the announced changes, this is the most unambiguously positive change. While I liked many of the other changes you have announced (including the controversial Start Menu changes), I can see absolutely no downside to these changes. I do technical support for a living, and I can count on one hand the number of customers in the past 16 years who would not have been better served by this version of the Task Manager.

    Thank you.

  71. Hi, nice work !

    In response to what @someone earlier mentioned I believe an conclusion of this would be…

    It look like it does because it's basically made for tablet's & touch.

    Would also like repeat and appreciate the importance from another comment, meaning a wish for having RESTART for processes everywhere which is possible and not only explorer.exe

    Will be Grateful for a feature like that.

    Thanks Ryan & team workers

    @Steven Sinofsky

    Have to send some credit also for the initiative in make this discussion come true here on your blog.

    Make people express their real view on things not always that easy when it comes to get involved and sharing opinions between different users.

    My highest vote for made this real and hope Microsoft keep on working in this way, bringing users & representatives together. Good for the future.

  72. edi says:

    I love what you are doing with the task manager and other parts of the desktop UI – improve it a bit more and you won't be able to convince us that we need metro UI.

    A little suggestion though – either make the default view the expended view or add to the minimized view the ability to see the child windows of each main window – because a lot of the time only one instance of word gets stack and I need to restart only that and now every instance of word that runs, or only the new message in outlook is stack and o don't want to restart the entire OUTLOOK so please consider this – and that will surely make that minimized view the most used one.

  73. Jason says:

    Hope as we click "more detail" button. The next time we open task manager it will be on "more detail" page instead of basic version. Else people that use to check detailed data need to do click fest every time start a new task manager.

  74. Jim Better says:

    Ctrl-Alt-Delete = shows absurd "external" page in Windows Vista and Windows 7 (and that combo is the most known).

    Ctrl-Shift-Esc = right combo for Task Manager (less known combo, I don't know why…)

    I think that should be inverted.

  75. Ryan says:

    One other question related to this topic. I find personally that a big cause of performance problems for my machine is when I have several IE tabs open, and each website is doing some background processing as though the page were in the foreground. The more frustrating aspect of this is that it's usually due to the advertising on the page, for which there is no reason when the page is hidden from view. This often chews up the CPU resources to the point of making the machine sluggish (and if on a mobile machine, needlessly eating battery life).

    I love the notion of suspending an app for this reason. Is there any user control over this, or will IE handle something like this automatically? I can imagine not every website will play nicely with that, but I don't really care. I would imagine the web standards circles could come up with some standard for a site to tell the browser whether or not it can safely suspend the site.

  76. Ryan says:

    Awesome, awesome, and awesome. Many fantastic enhancements! I am so glad the disk utilization is finally added to the Task Manager–as you mention, this is one of the most common bottlenecks, but few users realize this. Even casual users can understand the way you are presenting this data. Bravo!!

    I also love the idea of the web lookup for processes–in principle. May I suggest to take it a step further? Perhaps by an opt-in setting, why not add a process lookup that goes directly to the Microsoft Security Essentials database? Looking it up on the web is super, super noisy, and the information is often simply wrong, or worse, just a ploy to get you to buy something.

    I hope this also addresses this issue of app windows that don't have an associated taskbar button. One of the more infuriating situations that can occasionally occur with a Windows-based app is that the app presents a modal dialog BEHIND the parent window. There's no choice but to kill the process in that scenario.

  77. Peter says:

    You should better make it possible to open the taskmanager always to kill hanging apps.

    Any user who have e.g. a "hanging" Chrome knows what I mean. The Taskmanager is useless in this case, because it's not possible to open it. This problem is new in Windows 7, I can't remember that I have this problem ever with Vista or XP.

  78. killazys says:

    Great work and updates, Microsoft. Keep these coming.

    Just one thing: as others have mentioned, having temp monitoring or management would be a great improvement to Windows Task Manager. Maybe fan controls… 😛

  79. André says:

    Please include monitor GPU / Temp (all devices)

    Essential today.

  80. If +GPU = PERFECT

    Anyway, it's nice already.

  81. G says:

    So, you're saying that the majority of people are using task manager to kill tasks. Of course when they're using an unstable OS 🙂

  82. @G (one-letter name?)

    Two things:

    1. No OS can be perfectly stable, and Windows is no less stable than any other full-power OS on the market.

    2. Many times, closing programs with the Task Manager has nothing to do with the stability of the OS, but is related to the program being used. Just because Adobe Photoshop isn't responding or won't close through normal means doesn't mean that anything happened to Windows or that any part of Windows is unstable.

  83. war59312 says:

    For "search the web" can the user decide which search engine to use? Or at least use the engine that is set in IE at the very least.

    I know I am NOT the only one who will want to use Google instead.

  84. Bitcrazed says:

    @Someone – you don't have to toggle the advanced view every time you open task manager – it remembers what mode it was in last time it was opened and returns to that mode automatically.

  85. Jack says:

    The thought put into Windows 8 is amazing. Keep it up!

  86. Steven Bone says:

    One thing I would like to see at a glance (perhaps an icon) is if a particular executable is digitally signed or not (optional column to see the signer's name).  This really helps track down potential malware and/or processes going by names that portend to be real well known applications, where a lack of signing (or a strange/unexpected signer's name) is a great indicator.  This is one of the things that cause me to download the SysInternals Suite whenever I'm at that relative's house with the 'computer problem'.

  87. Tim says:

    In Windows 7 ive used the right click on process and Goto Service(s) a few times then rightclick stop service if it was misbehaving, but it was always a bit long winded.

    It would be nice to have a stop and restart service button appear when selecting a service with end task available to kill it for the very rare times stopping doesn't work.

  88. Robbo says:

    Since the new Task Manager only shows applications, shouldn't the button be called "End Application" rather than "End Task". I think leaving it as End Task will just confuse people.

  89. Robbo says:

    Further to that last post, why not call the initial screen the "Application Manager" instead of "Task Manager" for the novice, a task is something in Outlook, or something that you do, rather than an Application. Task Manager makes sense for the detailed view where things are actually tasks but not in the super simple view.

  90. Opera 11.51 does not shows the 2 videos appropriately. It seems to be there is not such "static info" in this post after all. Sorry about that.

  91. rohan says:

    how we can close app in touch tablet without using task manager

  92. Mike C says:

    My comment isn't posting properly so I'm trying again (I hope this doesn't double post, I'm sorry if it does)


    This is a great improvement on the windows 7 task manager, and it looks great. I would like to put in my only negative feedback on the chance that it helps weigh any decision. I personally like using processor explorer, not just because it's free, very detailed, and gives a lot of options, but mainly for one specific feature. It has a TREE view of the applications. I can see what process is running what, and has actually helped several times in easily identifying viruses or malware that is running under a process that it normally shouldn't, and also allows me to quickly find what I'm looking for. I know that the group view helps in that regard, but it's really not the same. There are also a few other helpful features from processor explorer, such as the coloring for native vs managed processes vs services, etc.

    While this is an excellent step in the right direction, especially for more tech savvy users, I think it's still missing some of the key features that true power users would want. I really hope you guys go another few steps forward with these thoughts in mind. I would hate to see all of the work get put in only to have people once again just replace task manager with another 3rd party application because it was missing a really important feature.

    Also, where's explorer on the list? Is it just not running, or is it hidden down below under some of the windows components? Just wondering if it's just labeled as a system component, or what?

  93. Mike C says:

    I forgot to mention. Probably the most invaluable features in process explorer are the abilities to view loaded assemblies in a process, view loaded handles in a process, and find (and optionally kill) a loaded handle via search. There have been plenty of times I've also had to track down malware or stubborn unclosed file handles via these features. Having them built in would almost certainly make me use the task manager in Windows 8 as opposed to just completely replacing it right after a fresh install. I would feel like it would be a complete waste if you guys spent so much time on a new, completely overhauled version of task manager only to have the exact same fate because it still isn't any more useful to most power users.

  94. Changes I'd like to see:

    In the same way as it highlights an unresponsive app, it should highlight an app that is "using a lot of processor time", "using a lot of memory", "accessing the disk a lot". Based on for example a task using >90% of a CPU's time for last 10 secs to 1 minute.

    Rather than just "End Task", why not "Close Task" as default (disabled for unresponsive apps). No reason to be quite so brutal unless necessary. Close Task would do appropriate thing for apps, services, etc.

    Maybe rename "End Task" to "Force close" to match other usage in windows (shutdown, etc.) Or vice versa.

  95. Dave says:

    "The thought put into Windows 8 is amazing!" -Jack

    Amazing, yeah:…/steven-sinofsky-accidentally-discovers-mac-os-x-through-extensive-research

    Oh, smile, for Heaven's sake, they're both just operating systems, and everyone wins when they try to one-up each other…

  96. I'd also like to see a metro version, for completeness if nothing else. But also because the tile could notify unresponsive or resource consuming apps.

    Also, there could be secondary tiles for resource graphs and heatmaps.

  97. @Dave — all in fun of course, but at least look at the top picture for the Windows 3.0 task manager from 1989.  It sure looks like what we have today 🙂  And back in 1989 the Mac OS System 6 didn't quite have a task manager (which I think was introduced with the unified multifinder in System 7) — I'm sure by saying this someone will dig up the actual facts 🙂

  98. xpclient says:

    Wow Microsoft thank you so much for dedicating a post to Task Manager. Absolutely wonderful efforts. The default clean view would be very useful for those who got overwhelmed by the full view. Use of color to highlight higher resource usage and showing service host names is also brilliant. Search the web can be very useful. But as always I can already see some removed and broken functionality even though you claim otherwise and a lot of bugs (I understand it's a technical preview). And I miss these based on my own usage over years of usage since the NT 4.0 days, so I didn't have to hunt specifically for them. I am also part of the automated Windows Feedback Program panel btw so even you made certain decisions based on telemetry, these features should not be omitted. May I point all of those out so they can be fixed:


    –  Bug: Last active tab is not remembered. The old Task Manager remembered the last active tab.

    –  Crashing bug: Go to Processes or App History tab. Focus on list of processes. Pressing End key is crashing Task Manager.

    –  Design flaw/regression: Naming of tabs is not the same. Confusing change. What was previously the 'Applications' tab is now the 'Processes' tab. Unfortunately, there was also a 'Processes' tab before which is now the 'Details' tab. Very confusing for those who have used the Task Manager for years.

    –  Design flaw/regression: Order of tabs is not the same!! In old Task Manager, it is Applications, Processes, Services, Performance, Networking and Users. In the new Task manager, it is Processes, Performance, App History, Startup, Users, Details and Services. Even if you MUST, absolutely MUST rename the tabs, at least make the order same as earlier. The correct order should be Processes, Details, Services, Performance, App History (because this is a new tab), Startup (also a new tab), and Users as the last tab. Please, the order has to be correct.

    –  Removed feature: Window management functions (Minimize, Maximize, Cascade, Tile Horizontally and Tile Vertically) on the Processes tab (formerly the Applications tab) and "Windows" menu are removed. Why are these important? Because in Windows 7, the Taskbar removed the ability to select multiple taskbar buttons using Ctrl+left click when buttons are ungrouped and therefore group actions on window buttons in the taskbar are no longer possible. The Task Manager's Applications tab offered an alternative and now you have taken that away as well! Raymond Chen describes the usefulness of window management functions here:…/9852686.aspx

    –  Removed feature: Selection of multiple applications on the Processes tab (formerly Applications tab). In the old Task manager, I could use Ctrl and Shift keys just like Windows Explorer to select multiple applications and do group window management actions or group End Task them. Why is this important? Because Aero Snap only allows at a time two windows to be shown side by side. Using the Task Manager, I could select three or four windows of an app and select "Tile horizontally" or "Tile vertically". If you have removed the window management actions because they wouldn't apply to certain processes like hidden windows or Metro style apps, you can bring them back and grey them out like the old Task Manager did. Please don't remove them entirely. And allow selecting multiple buttons to group End Task.

    –  Removed feature: There is no global status bar showing the total number of processes, CPU usage and physical memory and/or commit charge (like XP).

    –  Removed feature: See this image:…/lebar.png. Which document is which? The old Task Manager showed the application name from the Title bar. The new one gets its name from somewhere else. The document is only shown in More Details view after expanding by clicking the arrow/triangle. Why do you want to make our lives more difficult? Suppose there are 10 windows of an app open and 1 of them stops responding. With the old Task Manager, it was one glance away. With the new one, I must expand the arrow of each window to see if the not responding document is under one of those. Poor usability. Documents must be shown in the minimal view without making users expand and collapse every instance of the app. This also breaks keyboard usability. In the above screenshot, I could hit L to go through List1.txt, List2.txt, List3.txt. Not possible any more.

    –  Keyboard usability issue: When new Task Manager is opened, focus is on the tab! In the old Task Manager, the focus would be on the process list so I could Ctrl-Shift-Esc, then directly hit I for IExplore.exe (2 keystrokes) or immediately use arrow keys, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down. Now it's Ctrl-Alt-Esc, then Alt-Y to elevate, go to Details tab (Ctrl+Tab 5 times or click once), Tab twice to get to process list by keyboard! (4 keystrokes without counting Ctrl-tabbing to Details tab!!) Please put the focus by default on the running task or process when on Processes, Details, App History, Startup, Services or Users tab.

    –  No default beep/Ding sound if I press a key and there is no process or app beginning with that name.

    –  Removed feature: UAC virtualization can no longer be changed for a process from the Details tab (formerly Processes tab)

    –  Removed feature: No option to show processes only from current user on either Processes or Details tab! The Users tab gives me per-user list of apps, not process names.

    –  Unnecessary requirement: New Task Manager requires UAC elevation. Old Task Manager ran just fine without elevation to show current user processes. Please bring back ability to run Task Manager without elevation and show current user processes. Also, state of this option "Show processes from all users" should be saved so if it was last closed for all users, it should open with elevation for all users. If it was last closed for current user, it should open without elevation.

    –  Bug/keyboard usability issue: Ctrl+ '+' (Ctrl + plus key) or (Ctrl+Fn+'+' on laptops) key to auto-resize all columns works only on Details tab and Services tab. Doesn't work on Processes, App History, Startup and Users tab.

    –  When process is killed or terminated, it doesn't clear up quickly from the list.

    –  Removed feature: Process name of 16-bit processes and NTVDM child processes no longer shown! Only NTVDM.EXE is shown! You realize that 16-bit apps can run in their own separate memory space under NTVDM right? How do we differentiate two NTVDMs processes then?

    –  Limitation: Any column cannot be the first column on Processes, App History, Startup and Users tab as it can be in Details and Services tab. This affects keyboard usability too.

    –  Removed feature: 'Show full account name' option missing from Users tab, especially useful on domains.

    –  Broken feature: Show kernel times not working or not shown in a different color

    –  Extremely bad UI: The "Network Details" window should be integrated into Task Manager, not a separate window or it should be resizable. Plus it flickers so much that it is impossible to read the values. Scrolling resets the view making it impossible to see bottom values. Make a separate Networking tab with all those columns but not a separate window that doesn't even show properly when Task Manager is set to be 'Always on Top'. Holding down Ctrl key pauses the refresh of Task Manager everywhere but not on the Network Details window. Please integrate it properly into a separate tab because it has many columns.

    –  Removed feature: All of the options for the Networking tab, especially "Show cumulative data" and "Reset adapter history"??

    –  The new TM.exe also consumes far more memory than the old one which was extremely lightweight. 11.5 MB for TM.exe compared to 2.3 MB for Taskmgr.exe.


    –  Can you add a column to Details tab to show a process's Integrity Level which Windows Vista introduced?

    –  Please put "Go to Details" in the app context menu of the minimal view, where it automatically expands to full view and takes you directly to Details tab.

    –  At a very minimum, put a sort bar in the minimal view to sort by ascending or descending order. A sort bar won't clutter up the clean view but it will be very useful even in the simplified view.

    –  Add the very useful Shutdown menu back to Task Manager (last present in Windows XP)

    –  Column resize hit target to something greater than 1 pixel

    –  See in Windows Explorer Details View, if you right click on a column, it has two nice options: Size column to fit and Size all columns to fit. Add these to Task Manager as well.

    Without fixing these, you cannot claim you didn't remove or break functionality. 🙂 It is silly to reimplement an application without actually providing every feature the old one did. And please don't take the old one away. Not only is the file name being different break many apps, but there are scripts that launch Task Manager and send keystrokes and power tools like Task Manager Extension that hook into Task Manager to provide additional functionality. So old Task Manager must remain.

  99. PROCESS Manager, not "Task".

    Where do you see a single task in it?

    Also, following the trend of parroting Steve Jobs – call it Microsoft App Manager. That would kill me while I'm down on the floor laughing.

  100. Gabe says:

    This is great! You really have improved the task manager. The heat mapping was a great idea. No more having to sort the CPU usage column to find that misbehaving app. I hope you continue to improve other aspects of the Windows desktop experience.

    One "simple" suggestion is to expand the glass effect to more applications. Having a semi transparent glass background for explorer, notepad, and the command prompt would be pretty nice. Heck, even the calculator could use more glass. Toss out the blue tints and bring on the transparency!

  101. sree says:

    great..improvments and easy to identify bottlenecks.

    still expecting a metro app taskmanager for meto ui apps offcourse the apphistory available in normal taskmanager. because windows 8 going to be targeted on tablets ..

    please keep a metro app taskmanager on metro ui… to mange  the metro apps

  102. pumpkinszwan says:

    Awesome work. I think a great addition would be a little 'end task' button that shows up next to the 'not responding' text for an app that has stopped responding. That would make it more simple to end an unresponsive task (one click instead of select > move mouse > click).

    But overall this task manager is a huge improvement in so many way. I'm loving Windows 8.

  103. F says:

    > Panda X – It'd be nice if you can stop/start services from the task manager instead of having to open services.msc.

    +1 Yes please that would be great!!

  104. xpclient says:

    @Panda X and F, you can already start/stop services from the Services tab of Task Manager. In Windows 8, you can even restart them with 2 clicks. Right click on any service on the Services tab.

  105. sean e says:

    I like the new features in task mgr, however I don't like that for the same vertical space, it now shows less information then the Win7 version.  It has a bloated, double-space line look to it.  Please reduce whitespace between rows.

  106. sean e says:

    Increased whitespace due to inclusion of icons that did not appear in the Processes tab of the win7 version?

  107. Sardor says:

    Remarkable progress made after previous versions!

  108. Sentry says:

    I'd love to see the option to see which registry keys are being utilized by a process.

  109. Amit says:

    A very subjective comment but I couldn't help not saying it…. Awesome progress!!!  I am excited.

  110. xpclient says:

    Btw terminating a process from Applications tab without confirmation is also not nice. What if we have an open document and that is not saved and we accidentally hit the Delete key? I recommend that the minimal view not have the confirmation but the More Details view should have a confirmation when ending a task.

  111. easyIsle says:

    AWESOME! I really like where microsoft is going with this.

    Why not allow users to opt into your research after it is released? The larger pool of data you have about how we work (even unconsciously), the better your software will become.

    Great job everyone.. i will be adding this blog to my web-rounds.

  112. xpclient says:

    By percentage of tabs people are using too (85%) and the "Go To" flow from one tab to other, Processes, Details and Services tab should be next to each other.

  113. danwdoo says:

    Looks fantastic. What will happen on tablets? I'd love to see a metro version as well!

  114. Henk Poley says:

    Are you finally going to make it so clicking on the CPU column *once* is going to sort it with the most CPU using program at the top? Seriously, it's probably the default list view behavior to sort ascending.. But I can't remember how many time I've click the column, thought "wait, that service should use much CPU?" and then clicked the column again to make it do the sensible behavior that you want it to do.

  115. danwdoo says:

    "@someone. The settings and customizations are saved once you make them.  They become the defaults."

    Awesome! More items should behave this way!

  116. Neil says:

    Right click on task and suspend, would this feature be practical to implement?

  117. Isaque Neves Sant`Ana says:

    I would like first to congratulate the development team of Windows 8 for the excellent work and for transparency and feedback to the User.

    I would like to see a suggestion that a well be the most complex of great help to control and analyze the most complete running applications.

    My suggestion is this: I would like to see in Task Manager using the GPU that each application is using, because there is still a software that does that, at least I know. I use a third party application to see the general use of the GPU which is the "EVGA Precision".

    Another suggestion that I see being very useful is the Start screen: I think instead of having one horizontal scroll bar, the page should just roll left or right so that the User drag the mouse to the far side of the screen you want.

  118. Isaque Neves Sant`Ana says:

    I almost forgot another suggestion is to change the background color of the menu bar to a solid color, gradient because it is gruesome.

  119. Windowsfan says:

    Gizmodo's Sam Biddle on heat maps: "Just more proof that Microsoft gives a giant damn about design more than ever."

  120. Mantvydas says:

    It's very important for Internet Explorer windows or tabs, to know which of the tabs or windows is taking the most resources. so they should be distinguishable, and it'd be best to know by the window or tab name.

  121. al says:

    essential use is to find "suspected" process in the list, process that insist to start after you force it to end, process that refuses to end + a Microsoft support site which identify all "legal" processes. Thanks

  122. XP user says:


    "1. No OS can be perfectly stable, and Windows is no less stable than any other full-power OS on the market."

    Windows XP SP3

  123. umibozu says:

    Please include an option to know what files are open and by whom. This is very important for removable drives and is a lacking feature throughout windows versions, even lacking with Process Explorer.

    I am thinking on the unix lsof and a way to quickly tell what's preventing me to unmount a usb or network drive.

  124. why does Outlook need a special "Hotmail Connector something or other" and a "Live ID sign in assistant" when Outlook, and Hotmail are both MS products?????? that is absolutely insane and has to stop. glad i switched over to Gmail 🙂

  125. RP says:

    This new Task Manager is looking great!  Thanks for the update.

  126. D says:

    And you still didn't add the PATH TO EXECUTABLE!

    That's why I don't use task manager, but AceHelper for Total Commander.

  127. Kwpolska says:

    Would you believe that this is the first good feature out there!  I hope I will be able to stay in the detailed mode forever.

  128. Joao M Correia says:

    You removed the status bar from the task manager (probably one of those "confusing" items that users don't understand, although it was just showing the NUMBER of items on whatever list you were showing). Now, on the new one, you have to hand count the items just to see if there is something new running or not. Thats hardly an improvement.

  129. Quppa says:

    I'm definitely a fan of the new Task Manager, but xpclient's list of problems seems quite valid. Not remembering the last open tab and requiring elevation (!) are close to being deal breakers for me. I noticed another small UI problem in the Windows Developer Preview: clicking 'More details' or 'Fewer details' when the window is maximised puts the window in a strange state (somewhat similar to when the command prompt is 'maximised').

    While not strictly related to the Task Manager, thanks for adding 'Exit Explorer' to the taskbar context menu when right-clicking while holding the control and shift keys (though why not just require the shift key?). Is it possible to add 'Restart Explorer' as well?

    Why are you using a SysTabControl32 window but not putting anything underneath it? The empty control at the top of the window looks odd.

    Finally, are you ever going to open up 'Direct UI' and let other developers use it? I know WinRT and Metro style apps are the focus for Windows 8, but I'm sure that native developers would appreciate a modern UI framework for creating desktop programs.

  130. GMAB says:

    @milan, yes, that control panel does look like a mess (your link).

    Good thing we're talking about Windows here (the real O/S).  :^)

  131. Joao M Correia says:

    How about just adding Process Explorer directly with windows? Its much more complete and useful for professionals (could be a "feature" of enterprise version, for example)

  132. Joao M Correia says:

    @Steven – you said "suspended apps do not consume CPU and if other apps need the RAM then the suspended apps are unloaded.  So you do not pay any penalty and nothing is slower."

    Then why are they not closed already if they are not doing anything? They are still taking swipe-movement space at least. And i don't really need the weather app i just used to check the weather for tomorrow anymore, no point in swiping over it over and over, i only needed to use it once.

  133. This is a very good thing.The most important thing is to Kill a process. Make that efficient. IN W7 it is pretty good. But still Task Manager sometimes just hangs there and gets unresponsive itself.

    Make sure End process Kills a process instantly.

    I think a Restart Process button would be nice. Usually a it is a program I want to use and after ending it the next thing that I start it.

  134. I already enjoyed the new Task Manager in the preview, it is really useful. Great work. 🙂

    xpclient's remarks should be looked into however, I think.

  135. chirag says:

    I bave not got how .net framework is integrated with win8,I mean if interface is of html5 & js,then can't  the .net have class to do same using c#.please make some clear about this ,I am eagerly waiting for this

  136. Ilia Jerebtsov says:

    One of the biggest nuisances of the current model is how there's about a dozen Chrome (sorry!) processes running, even though I only have one window open. When one of them hangs, I have no way to distinguish which one is it and usually have to resort to killing the whole tree.

    Hopefully the new grouping system will take this into account. I want to be able to easily find and kill specific tabs, but without cluttering up the task list with dozens of processes.

  137. Farooq Azam says:

    No rounded corners for windows?

  138. Moderator says:

    BumbleBritches57 < This guy is here for trolling against Microsoft. Checkout his comments in each blog post.

    @BumbleBritches57, what is your problem man? You are trolling against everything that is comming? Seems like you don't like *anything* from Microsoft so you are not welcome here. Please keep distance from this blog.

  139. @xpclient says:

    Did you submit the bugs and missing feature request using feedback tool? It's highly imperative. This is the first time that I like your comment 🙂

  140. Alireza Noori says:

    So how do you close Metro Style apps? 😀 Just kidding…

    Great tool. One of the best designs I've seen in Windows 8 is the new Task Manager. It's indeed very modern. Of course I've got a few questions:

    1. Is there going to be a Metro Style Task Manager to eliminate the need to load desktop code for tablets

    2. There are cases that an app won't close just by selecting "End Task" is the new clean look going to "kill process" if the "End Task" fails?

    3. In the Task Manager alternatives there are more than one way to kill a process. There were a few times that I couldn't kill a process with Windows Task Manager but could do it with those apps. Is there going to be similar scenarios "behind the scene" for Windows 8 so when I choose to "kill a process" the Windows will do its best to actually "kill it"?

    4. Is it possible to kill/close a group of apps (for instance all the iexplorer.exe processes) at once?

    5. In the "fewer details" view, all the instances of the Outlook are grouped as one item. What if I want to close only one particular instance?

    I would really appreciate your answers.


  141. This looks great !

    The same goes for the ribbon in Windows Explorer and other great improvements !

    It is a pitty that we will not be able to profit from all these goodies because of the terrible "Start Menu" !

    As a matter of fact : Windows 8 will NEVER come onto our machines if we cannot choose for the Desktop Interface with the WIn7 startmenu instead of the dreadful Win8 Startpage as the boot-default.

  142. DevPlus says:

    Hi Nice Work MS

  143. Rev. Bill says:

    Kudos to the Windows Team!  Great work on everything so far.  The heatmaps are a wonderful addition, as well as per-app network and, especially, disk usage.

    I have 3 questions:  "Search the Web" in the context menu was a bit confusing for me.  Even I did not know exactly what it did until I clicked it.  Perhaps the name of this feature should be looked at more closely.

    Second, How can applications harness the power of using friendly names in the new task manager?  I still see processes like "SMSvcHost.exe" in the screenshots posted above.

    Last, will there be an option to *always* enable showing processes for all users?  In Windows 7 it is jarring to have windows close/open another Task Manager just to see all the processes running on a given system.

    Excellent work.  Keep the blog posts coming.  The insight behind all these changes is beyond interesting and incredibly refreshing!

  144. Martin says:

    Even in W7 it happens that processes that I try to kill canot be killed or killing takes a very long time. I dont talk about System-Processes. I talk about processes that I started under my user-context. This ist strange and annoying (some times I turn off the pc because of this). As long as the stability of the OS is not in danger or possible loss of data is not an issue if permissions allow this an process-kill should be executed without hesitation. In first place its the user behind the system that is the decisionmaker and not the OS. If I tell the OS kill this process I want the OS to kill the process immediately and remove the process from memory and not have to wait for for hours or undefinitely. I realy wonder why in the days of preemtive multitasking OS this is still an issue. To make clear: I like W7 since it is rock stable. (P.S.: Sorry for my bad english. As I'm not from an english speaking country anyway I hope you half way understood what I meant.)

  145. The very concept of Task Manager is highly questionable. On what basis are people killing processes? Do they know what they're doing? The mere fact of having a 'Search the web' link suggests not. Is the process in question using excessive resources? Compared to what? For how long? What is the baseline?

    What does "Not responding" mean? Does it mean hung? Timed-out? Ignoring something? Is my work saved? What does 'task' mean anyway?

    Why doesn't the user get a response *from something* when they click 'x' to close a window and nothing happens within the timeout period? The UI should *always* respond to user requests, in some legitimate and, more importantly, timely manner – else, epic fail.

    Why doesn't the operating system just kill (or at least offer to kill) hung processes of its own accord? Why does the user have to intervene, and run a program to close another program?

    Why doesn't the operating system alert the user to a process that has exceeded some predefined CPU or memory threshold, offer to cycle it (close > open), or better still (by far) in the case of services – just quietly restart it, and only annoy the user if an error occurs?

    Won't the simplified default view just encourage users to end all tasks at the end of a session – precisely what your trying to get away from?

    Task Manager might have been an acceptable solution in the Win3/4 era, but now it's an embarrassment. *All* process management should be the responsibility of the operating system, and *zilch* should be the responsibility of users. The best Task Manager is no Task Manager.

    So there you go – i just reimagined Task Manager – gone.

  146. I'll say it again.  This looks great, and I'm very happy with the changes.

    I hope that the Windows team will incorporate the same philosophy into other aspects of the OS.  For example, going to msconfig and changing which programs run at startup.  A simpler, more user-friendly naming scheme would be very helpful in determining what is an important program to be running and what is not.

  147. Hi, very good job but add temperature monitoring, we want to be sure of don't burn our hardware, so if you create a way to get off the pc when we arrive in a specific temperature that we want, windows adds a lot of security on using its (yes, it doesn't depend only by malware ecc., but also with this kind of security)

  148. nascent says:

    Looks incredible, like Process Explorer on crack. Though I am curious, for us 'power users'  will the task manager remember the choice of "more details"  While the simplified default view is great for new users, there will never be a point I will want to use it.

    Also What is the system tray/notification icon for it going to be like?  I have always run Process Explorer 'minimized to tray' so that I always know the state of my machine.

  149. Nate says:

    Nice work!  Thanks for taking the time to blog about your hard work.

  150. This is truly progress. A+ guys (& and/or gals)! Wish I liked the rest as much.

  151. @Drewfus says:

    Are you high or something or you don't belong to technological field to ask such ignorant questions? Or are you deliberately trolling?

  152. moshea says:

    When it comes to troubleshooting nasty problems, it usually comes down to resource ownership – such as file locks and tcp port usage, etc. perhaps even what system calls are being made.  

  153. GreatOSLover says:

    I normally do not post my comments but I must admit that this is an excellant work. Keep up the great work!!!

    1. For Power users can we have an option that shows the expanded view by default. Esp when I am doing development, I don't want to keep clicking "Show Details" or I want to keep the Task Manager running"

    2. In the advanced tab, I would like to see two features which make me to go to process explorer which is available in *nix ps command for a long time Image Path Name & Command line parameters passed on to the image

    3. Can we also show Parent Process/ child process links? I am not referring to mutiple windows opened by the same process. I am referring to for example IIS Admin Svc that opened W3 SVC. Also list of modules/DLLs loaded by the process.

    For other things such as list of handles, ports opened, threads etc, I don't mind going to an advanced tool like Process Explorer but in my expereiance the above are minimum requirement for a moderate power user

  154. Logan says:

    Now this actually looks great! Thank you for not putting a ribbon on it! (Can't say the same for the new explorer window.)

    This actually looks genuinely handy, and greatly simplified.

  155. Kumar Harsh says:

    I have a lot of expectations for this release of Windows…

    For all the slack that people give to Microsoft and Windows,

    this is one BIG step forward, informing the common user of all the features and WHY they are there…

    Windows 8 will be great ! I see the future now… 😀

  156. Ninjatsu says:

    "Steven Sinofsky 13 Oct 2011 12:15 PM #

    @sovan suspended apps do not consume CPU and if other apps need the RAM then the suspended apps are unloaded.  So you do not pay any penalty and nothing is slower."

    So when I leave the app I cannot close, then i try alt tabbing, the app and its backround and its icons are all moving in the alt tab menu, still not taking resources? and then when I drag programs from the left (touch style alt tabbing) and the program I have wanted to be closed comes into view, still not taking my time and resources?

  157. Kumar Harsh says:

    One request :

    Please add an "ALWAYS USE ADVANCED VIEW" checkbox

    It will save 1 click per hung application…

  158. Excellent steven!! Really love the new Task Manager!!

    And, as I said before, Win 8 has awesome features but you risk  screwing it up if you don't give Start menu as an option to the start screen. Both are fabulous and have their own merits and own clientele. They need to coexist

  159. John says:

    What do you want a medal for something that should've been implemented 10 years ago?

  160. Rev. Bill says:

    I feel absolutely compelled to second the motions of including SMART and temperature monitoring somewhere in Windows.

  161. @@Drewfus

    "Are you high or something or you don't belong to technological field to ask such ignorant questions? Or are you deliberately trolling?"

    Not responding

  162. river-wind says:

    I like everything about this.

  163. This is a really fantastic improvement.  I'm looking forward to using it.  (See last paragraph for bottom line).

    I've had one quibble with the current task manager:  a process could be sucking CPU and still have a low "CPU usage."  Back in the old days of NT4 when the current task manager was introduced, it didn't matter: most everyone had single-core CPUs and if a single thread pegged the CPU, it would show as 100% usage.

    A single-threaded program that pegs a single CPU is a possible red flag.  It could be a hung process that is draining my battery.  Maybe I wonder if a program is utilizing multiple threads for computations.  Unfortunately, today the trend towards multiple cores makes this difficult.  For example, I'm writing this on a hyper-threaded quad core CPU – that means 8 logical cores.  If a thread pegs the CPU it will only show as 12% CPU usage.

    I often find myself going to the Process tab and hunting for processes that are using a steady ~12% usage.  I don't know how I'll do this in the future,  For example a hyper-threaded CPU with 8 cores (which I'm sure is not far away) would have 16 logical CPUs and if a program pegs one of those, I'd have to look for one using 6% total CPU.  That is almost background noise that will be lost in the myriad of processes that routinely use a few percents of CPU on a periodic basis.

    The bottom line is your new task manager has a pretty "CPU" column, but on a modern hyper-threaded many-core CPU if a user has some misbehaving single-threaded apps, they will completely miss those and not spot them (or it will be difficult to find them) because the total CPU usage of a single-threaded app will always appear to be "low".

  164. Steve Johnson says:

    Loving the new Task Manager.  I have a couple of gripes, though.  First, by your own data, we see that the top reasons for using Task Manager are to determine what is consuming my memory and CPU.  Why, then, are these two pieces of information not displayed on the first screen?  Why click "More Details"?  How is that easier than clicking the "processes" tab?  The argument was given that the mainstream user doesn't really want to see the extra data, but I would argue that the mainstream user doesn't use Task Manager anyway.  Is that not the case?  As a compromise, I would second the request for an option to "always use advanced view".

  165. cody says:

    Am I the only one who thinks the Windows 3.1 Task List looks better ?

  166. @JamesJohnston says:

    Good point. Task manager should contain number of cores required to performe taks – i.e process working on three cores, each 50%, should show 1,5 core load.

    MS: please remember view settings per windows user.

    ps. once again my post were sent nobody-knows-where

  167. LBSalvego says:

    Off topic: I really would like to see a post about Metro applications and the Garbage Collector or Application Closer (whatever). There is an issue about the way we program events in Silverlight (the web plugin) that makes the GC not collect garbage. This issues may happen on Metro applications? How could we write programs better to not prevent a Metro application from being "collected" by W8?

  168. mateus says:

    It will be better when we don't need the task manager. Maybe you should spend your time on making a stable OS instead of fancy graphics and charts for something everyone hates.

    If anyone needs a task manager, the OS is not doing it's work. Sorry, but it's true.

  169. "i.e process working on three cores, each 50%, should show 1,5 core load."

    I like it!  A column that is calculated as follows:

    CoreLoad=TotalCPUUsagePercent * TotalNumberOfLogicalCores / 100

    Microsoft, *please* add this or something similar as a column, it would be a fantastic tool for those of us with multiple cores (i.e. everybody)!  Heat map the column so that any core load greater than 1 is noteworthy.  Or at least do something to have kind of indicator to keep CPU usage relevant in this multicore CPU world.

  170. मनोज जांगिड says:

    बहुत बढ़िया| आप सभी को बहुत बहुत बधाई आपके इस कार्य के लिए|

  171. marco says:

    haha it's funny how it looks like the mac

  172. David C says:

    Ryan, nice writeup and the improvements are welcomed.

    How about letting a user know all of the processes that are from Windows and authorized by an icon or other notification scheme?  Why do we have to search the web to find out whether or not something is supposed to be running?  

    We also need a way to analyze all the network communcations that are happening, in and out.  

    Provide the tools that make operating a secure Windows environment possible.

    There have very little updates in the Windows Security Blogs regarding Windows 8.  Does that mean security no longer matters at Microsoft?

  173. Lance says:

    Love the new task manager, now loose metro and we're good.

  174. Lance says:


    Since you are responsible for the "in control of your PC" product set,  can you please talk to the rest of the team?  We want control to disable metro on desktops.

  175. I second that, great work.

    You see guys (MS), you can do something that looks nice and contains 10 times the information without needing to take over the whole screen.

    Full screen is bad…new task manager respects our desktop and it is more functional, I love it for both reasons.

  176. Andrew Fong says:

    Is there a way to detect which process is accessing a particular file or directory? I hate it when I try to delete a file and get the "this file is open in another program" message. Often, it's some random background process that didn't close a file properly, and I have no way of knowing which one it is. Would be nice if Task Manager gave me an easy way to deal with that.

  177. I second the second Lance’s suggestion too.

    @Ryan, please take over control of the desktop experience and teach those people what Windows stands for (i.e. productivity and fun, no hype and unnecessary features that contradict common sense). Please ensure that we can switch off Metro and focus on Windows when it comes to our computers on the desktop.

  178. Devashish says:

    But is there a way to open the task manager on a touch only device?

  179. ThickSkin says:

    @Microsoft Team

    I just wanted to say you deserve a lot of credit for both posting all of this information and sharing it with the community, which I know is enjoyed by many!  You also enjoy a lot of credit for all of the innovation and change you are attempting to put into the next version of the OS.

    More than both of those though… you deserve A TON of credit for digging through all of these comments and actually responding back to the community at large.  Some of the crazy non-helpful mud slinging comments have got to be hard to look past.  Especially after spending multiple years on all of this hard work.  Just know that some of us actually appreciate what you are doing, and enjoy all of the innovation.  I do appreciate those that are at least kind in their citicism.  I think the rest of you didn't get hugged enough as a child.

    Keep up the great work!

  180. jader3rd says:

    When people find their computer running slowly they think it's that the CPU is busy, but that hasn't been the problem in years. When peoples computes are running "slowly" the problem is a disk queue above 1 on the disk where the system page file lives. That's the cause of %99 of performance problems users encounter. I've had computer where a CPU heavy task is taking up %99 of the CPU and the computer is still responsive. Users can have %100 of their CPU being used, but since the system is still responsive they don't check Task Manager because there's no problem. I personally wish I could easily adjust settings on my Windows systems to allow for more memory usage and less page faulting. The Windows page faulting mechanism should be less aggressive. I have all of this RAM and if it's not being used it's wasted.

    What the Task Manager should highlight are programs which are page faulting heavily, and programs causing the disk queue on the disk with the page file to be higher than one.

  181. The problem with this sort of stuff (at least for MSFT), is that it appeals to and reinforces the top-down, in-control, managerial mindset of the administrator and 'power user' – over the bottom-up, immersive, let-Windows-handle-it mindset that Microsoft has envisaged for the Metro user. These two 'worldviews' are almost incompatible because they require an ontological inversion in swapping from one to the other, which becomes tiring. That's why you get that subjective thunk when you context switch from Metro to Desktop or the reverse.

    @mil_ "…needing to take over the whole screen" – no light bulb yet?

  182. Guy says:

    That's just excellent!

    Keep those blog posts coming!

  183. Drew says:

    @Dario D.

    I lol'd. *makes clicking noises at his computer*

  184. jader3rd says:

    The default sort column should be page fault delta. That process will generally be the cause of most performance problems. I've fixed many a sluggish Vista computer by discovering that the analog clock for the side bar was constantly thrashing the page file. Close that down and the user stops describing their computer as slow.

  185. Skywalk says:

    all the changes are great and all, but there's nothing that show how much GPU is used by process, that single feature would make us IT and gamers very pleased with a new Task manager like the one you guys are showcasing right now.

    lets say i want to see how much GPU usage my quake3 arena use in low setting or high settings, i set my settings in quake and go in task manager i see XX%, chance settings to low and check again… then you could also diagnostic what programs lag your GPU etc etc… think about it.

  186. T800 says:

    Do you "//build/" guy realize that ProcessExplorer is waaaaaaaaaaay faster when it comes to killing a process.

    When I kill something I do it immediately and without hesitation. That's how taskmgr should do it – the moment I say "KILL IT WITH FIRE".

  187. mvadu says:

    "Fill some of the functionality gaps that drove some of our most technical customers to use other tools such as Resource Monitor and Process Explorer."

    Why do you want to drive people away from Process Explorer, its not like it is a third party tool, its owned by Microsoft. During one windows life cycle Process Explorer gets updated at least 5-10 times, adding new features. Which will not happen for Task Manager. As Steven said "every 15 years or so we choose to update Task Manager.".

    Instead of duplicating the most of what Process Explorer already does, why don't you integrate both, and make one tool, which gets updated when Process Explorer core gets updated.  

    In the default view show this minimalistic easy to use version, and on detailed view just bring in default Process Explorer view.  Its already has enough details that can satisfy any advanced user.

  188. @Drewfus: Sorry I don’t get your comment about “needing to take over the whole screen”, maybe I didn’t express myself correctly.

    I said “without”, meaning that is good that it is just a window and it takes only the space a window takes. I don’t mean I have a problem with your comment, I just do not understand where I got it wrong.

    In general though, I agree and disagree with your overall comments. Yes on one hand they are telling us, “hey! we know better you don’t need Windows and stuff”. Then they go and make a nice looking task manager which has a lot of information that I do need in my work as a developer (even though in my applications I always get all these stats and more).

    So from the perspective of a power user I find it very nice to have this new task manager. From the perspective of the Metro UI though which is targeting “simple” users, I agree it could be overwhelming. But in that case I don’t think they should even bother looking at it until one day they learn what a process is and what is the difference between the CPU and the memory and other complicated matters like that 😛

    But you also have to consider that when they do have a problem they may ask somebody for help and that person could start the task manager and “kill” a process. My 6 year old (who obviously the Metro UI is targeting so far) could ask me to help him by killing a process. Actually that is a bad example, my 6 year old can use Windows 7 fine as they are at the moment and he is already programming in Kodu (a big thanks to Microsoft Research for that application), he doesn't need the Metro oversimplified UI.

  189. Jerue says:

    Thanks for all the good work Steven and team! I'm loving how Windows 8 is coming together and the discussion that has evolved around it. Keep up the good work!

    I think the idea floating around here of including GPU usage into the task manager is a great idea. I have one question of my own: Why keep the menu bar in the Task Manager. The rest of the desktop is moving away from the use of menus, so even with all the improvements, the menu creates the impression that it is a bit dated. Same is true for Notepad and any other Windows application that might keep the menu hanging around. In all these cases, the menu could be replaced wtih something more functional, whether it be the ribbon, adding the functionality to the main UI, or something else.

  190. Um yea... says:

    ummm… Sys Internals Process Explorer

  191. Sean says:

    Great job overall. I like the addition of disk/network usage. I've wanted that feature for a while.

    I noticed in the video the there wasn't a separate processes tab. I would still like to be able to kill individual processes and not just the whole program. Over the last couple of years, I would estimate that 80% of the time when I have to forcefully end a program, it is a browser related. With each tab/window having its own process. It makes recovery very easy. If one tab is misbehaving, kill the process associated with it and the main process can attempt to relaunch that window while all other browser processes are left intact. This has worked very well for me to minimize data/time lost. So, on to my question: when you expand an application in the task manager, does it only show windows, or are their subprocesses viewable with their own stats(and individually kill-able)? I ask this mainly because I didn't see an IE application expanded in the video, so I can't say for sure.

    I, like some of the others who have posted, like to see details by default. That's one thing about the file transfer dialog box in Vista/7that I didn't like over XP. The details are hidden by default, and I constantly find myself expanding the dialog box for all, but the shortest of transfers(<5 sec.). So, having it remember it was last used with an simple/expanded view would be great.

  192. Marcel says:

    I would be really happy if the task manager could close every not responfing window without any problems or complications.

  193. JC says:

    Will a setting be available to always show "More Details"? Same applies for any information dialog box such as "Copy" it is frustrating to have to expand the details every time I want to see statistics.

  194. mmosier88 says:

    Loving this… I use the task manager a LOT (I'm a sysadmin). The only thing I would add is a temperature monitor tab and an option under the resources to view the load on the graphics card. I have many engineers here that run 3D simulations that eat up a LOT of graphics power. Would be nice to know, "you need a new graphics card" by seeing it is under heavy stress in the task manager (just as I would suggest more ram or a new cpu in the case of those being overloaded)

    The temperature monitor tab would be useful because  I constantly get inquiries regarding hot laptops/the fan running all the time. I would include the Fan Speed, CPU Temp Chipset temp, and GPU Temp in relation to their Thermal Limits. Use the hotspot feature to indicate which components are causing a problem…. (For example if the processor is running at 90*C and it's limit is 100)

  195. Mike Peterson says:

    Some processes seem immune to the kill process button.

    I push it, nothing happens, I end up rebooting.

    Will this be fixed?

  196. Amit says:

    Since there is a network option it would be nice to stop the activity of a file to access the internet. Basically the firewall to be integrated with the task manager.

  197. @Mike Peterson just brought up an important point. There are programs on my computer that do not respond to the "End Process" button. One example that I can think of off the top of my head: DOSBox. Sometimes, when I try to send System Exclusive messages to my Roland MT-32 synthesizer through DOSBox, DOSBox freezes on my Windows 7 PC. This never happened on my Windows Vista PC, and when this does happen, pressing "End Process" won't close DOSBox. The main UI window will close, but the "DOSBox Status Window" and the DOSBox.exe process remain open, and do not respond to the "End Process" button in the Task Manager. Is there any chance that Windows could be changed to force all programs to respond to the "End Process" button?

  198. Jonathan N. says:

    While nice, and trust me I DO use the task manager a lot, I would rather you guys focus on Windows ability to actually kill tasks.  Even up to Windows 7 I still get processes from time to time that I can not kill.  Frankly there should be no reason that I can't kill anything that isn't crucial to the functionality of Windows.  And to be blunt it is one thing that makes me seriously look down on Microsoft and Windows.  No 3rd party process should have so much control in the OS that I can't become the hand of God and smote that SoAB with on click in the task manager!  Fix this guys.  Other then that.  Yah.  Love Windows.

  199. @Windows 8 Team

    Which Eye-Tracking software are you using for your internal tests?

  200. This looks like a very nice step in the right direction, now learn how to handle zombie processes.  

  201. Javi says:

    This is nothing new. This has been copied from Mac OS X

  202. Salizar says:

    The process list needs a search ability to quickly isolate processes.

  203. Jim Better says:

    I agree with "milan" and "Javi", Windows 8's Task Manager is copied from Mac OS X and Windows 7's Control Panel is a real mess.

    Too many icons, too many…

    It sucks.

    Windows 8 should contain a homage to Steve Jobs.

    This time you're copying the force quit apps panel calling it Task Manager.

    Thank Steve Jobs for all the things you can copy from Mac OS X.

    Or dedicate the whole Windows 8 to his memory… that would be a nice thing to do.

  204. @Jim Better says:

    or is it a Jim Bitter? Mac don’t have heat map and performance graph. You have no point there and you lose!

  205. @jader3rd 2011-10-15 3:50 AM

    Interesting that this (very interesting) comment has not been referred to by anyone. Are these points correct, or not?

    Regardless, it does point to an important issue – what is the correct basis for deciding if a process should be killed? The post does not concern itself with this, but just seems to take for granted that killing processes is normal, necessary day-to-day activity. Nor is there any mention as to why eliminating hung processes is not just part of the operating system's routine operation. The implicit assumption seems to be that the user knows something about non-responsive processes that the operating system doesn't know, or perhaps that this is a "use at own risk" feature, rather than something the OS is going to take responsibility for.

    Just as concerning is the idea of the OS actually having a built-in feature to search the www for pearls of wisdom from (using top hit from example in post) the Elder Geek! Maybe while i'm at that site i could learn about disabling "unnecessary" services to reduce my OS memory fooprint – i'm sure the dude is a great authority on Windows. Just for the sake of at least trying to appear professional, the web search feature should be limited to sites (don't you have this stuff covered?). Seriously, if having a 'Search the web' link is valid in this context, why not add this item to all context menus and we can go spelunking the web with the blessing of the OS for any topic? This could replace Help and Support!

    This topic reminds me of the SID duplication myth, uncovered by Mark Russinovich. The notion of needing to kill processes is probably a no less widely believed superstition than that was – until someone thought it through.

    @mil_ – Sorry for being cryptic. I'll explain what i mean in the right post when i get the time 🙂

  206. Xero says:

    A very basic, layman question. can anyone predict what would be the minimum cost of any slate running windows 8 next year? Like i can goto mall and buy USD 150-250 pad/tablet/slate running android.

    P.S. I'm not worried about the OS in general, because this is what MS is developing since several years and they are good at it!

  207. Xero says:

    @Drewfus, you said "The implicit assumption seems to be that the user knows something about non-responsive processes that the operating system doesn't know, or perhaps that this is a "use at own risk" feature, rather than something the OS is going to take responsibility for."

    Create a GUI based project in C/C++, C#.NET or Java language.  In the main GUI thread do some heavy lifting code and you will see the GUI will hang while executing it. So basically it happens when the poor code is written by third party. Thus, the first party (you and me) should not blame second party (that in this case is MS) for this. Port your code to *nix (GUI based such as Mac!) and you will see the same behavior. Windows OS displays you a notification if you want to close some app which is hanging or nonresponsive by sniffing some unhealthy pattern at runtime (on of which is infinite loop!). Also, if you want to close some app immediately, which is using lot of time to finish its processing and there is no user-control provided for terminating that processes, then (for these kind of scenarios) OS provides you task-manager to terminate that process. To make the OS predict if this app gonna crash at any point in time (AI, cybernetics, machine learning?), this would require to redefine the concept of OS. Impossible is nothing but I guess we are at least looking somewhere after 2020 to make it happen.

  208. Joe White says:

    If you can expand the tree and see the services listed right there, it'd be great if you could also start and stop them right there.

    But I'll still use Process Explorer, for one reason: Find Handle. If I try to delete a file, and Windows says some process is using it, Process Explorer will tell me which process that is, so I can either switch to that app and exit it cleanly, or kill the process. I encounter this probably at least once a week — definitely often enough to be worth switching permanently to Process Explorer. If you added this functionality to Task Manager, I would probably never need to switch.

  209. I want to take a moment to thank everyone reading and commenting on this blog for all of your interest and for the insightful comments that have been posted.  For the last couple years, we have been hard at work designing and building a product for you, so it is a huge thrill for us to be able to finally get to talk about the features in detail and hear what you have to say about it!  I just came from a 2 hour meeting with members of the Task Manager feature team where we all read through your comments together. Your passion for Windows 8 is invigorating and your feedback will help us improve the product. Thanks for participating in the blog and thanks for making this a two way discussion!  

    –Ryan and the rest of the Task Manager feature crew

  210. How about show temperature data available on any modern systems? Many users have to install additional software to monitor their system and cpu temperature.

  211. I LOVE that you guys added the ability to search processes on the internet, that's awesome. but don't you dare make this a bing thing

    you better use my default browser and my default search engine.

  212. I Can't even USE MSN anymore, because of your bingification. seriously, who wants to click 15 links per page of "journalism" AKA adware.

    it's ridiculous, and who ever thought that was a good idea needs to be fired, and every boss who Okay'd it needs to be fired as well.

  213. @BumbleBritches57:  The "Search the Web" feature of Task Manager will use your default search engine, whatever that may be set to.

  214. HandNF says:

    Task Manager 8 looks awesome. I admit I do use the processes tab a lot in Windows XP, so being able to view processes and applications next to statistics immediately is a great feature. Keep up the good work in improving Windows.

  215. Vaibhav Garg says:

    What do the other Tabs do? or Look like?

    Especially, App History is a new beast here, what does THAT do?

  216. asghar eskanloo says:

    it's very good i can say  it used to be impossible but you did it thanks very much …… i'm waiting for windows 8

  217. @Ryan Haveson [MSFT]

    The "Search the Web" feature  should also come to the "Open with" dialog for unknown file types, instead of the Microsoft site. That would be much better.

  218. Bydia says:

    First of all I am really getting into the new Metro UI and love it that I can still switch back to the desktop. The switching is NOT a jar, it's nicely done. I'm testing on an older Acer Aconia W500P, so I'm missing out on the side screen stuff. (Search YouTube for "AdamsTaiwan" to see my son use it.)

    As a power user/developer one thing I like to learn first is keyboard shortcuts. In your next blog, can you create a table list of keyboard shortcuts and mark them present and future (I know some changes will be made)?  I'm sure this would make other power users like myself happier. The ones that I had discovered myself have made a big different in how I much like the new changes.

  219. gk says:

    Would the "default view" always be the view when I first open the task manager (e.g. after restarting my PC, or after having closed the task manager)? If yes, it's a mistake. If no, ignore the rest of the post.

    My most common 'action' is not to 'end a task' but to look at 'who's taking the resources' (memory, cpu and threads). This means even if you give me 'Heat Map' as a very useful feature for me, you have hidden it under the annoyance of clicking the 'More Details' to reach it. Net result: 'heat map' = Good but annoyingly reachable feature.

    And to your 'Don’t remove functionality', you haven't actually removed it but made it harder to reach.

    I believe you have taken the word 'Action' too literally. Action is not just clicking some button, it's doing something to achieve something. In my case, the set of actions is:

    1. Open the Task Manager (generally i always keep it as open and minimised, unless i restart or accidently close it).

    2. Click the processes tab.

    3. Sort by either memory (private or working), cpu or threads to see resource usage. (Heat map will help here)

    to achieve: 'view who's taking the resources'.

    Suggestion: Provide an option to set the 'default view' to either the list of apps with end task button OR full blown task manager. Good if you already have this option.

    PS: I know you will say if the task manager is always minimised, I would need to click 'more details' only once. Yes, but it would still be an annoyance.

  220. Moderator says:

    @BumbleBritches57, do you even have Win8 dev preview installed on your machine? No! try it, then come with some real complaint related to the topic under consideration. As Ryan said, search works as you were asking (are you happy? NO!). Complaints about MSN should goto somewhere like Compared to Google, Bing is waaaay behind spreading adware. Did you ever log a complaint on their blog? Use IE9 with ActiveX filtering and Tracking protection ON and you will at least not have any complaint about ads. Or you can stick to some Goofy browser and keep complaining. Your call !!

    @Microsoft, a troll will always be a troll no matter how flexible you make your products!

    @all, please if you see a problem, let's discuss it. If you like something, appreciate that. If you don't have anything to say, keep quite. If you are a troll, then you are at wrong place (as obviously this is not

  221. Xero says:

    @Ryan and team, this post addresses my concern — via heat-map — about finding the process, which is exploiting the resource, at the time of 100% CPU usage (which is fact I was asking in the other blog…/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8.aspx) This happens in my Dell laptop at the time of streaming videos or browsing graphics-heavy websites. The problem turned out to be hardware and laptop design specific as there is air suffocation if it's placed at some rough surface. But in Windows 7, once CPU usage is exploited (90-100%), sometimes — even if the temperature is decreased — it keeps consuming the resources drastically  (no luck even after I tried hibernating and resuming in that scenario). Also, there is no way to figure out in task-manager that specifically which process is culprit and to-be-killed! I need to terminate indefinite number of top processes w.r.t memory and CPU consumption (like IE, FF, Shockwave/Flash/Silverlight players and other things like devenv.exe and netbeans.exe and since so forth…) until the CPU usage drops back to < 30% or 10%. I guess heat map is something we were missing there. Or is there anything more to that kind of scenario; nondeterministic and subjective? Please comment.

    A little off-topic: besides having the CPU and memory usage in task-manager, can we have those digits appeared in IE's quick-tabs view for each tab? Quick Tabs (CTRL+Q) is an awesome feature of IE7+ browser which is turned off by default as if it's only for power users which shouldn't be the case IMHO ! (to enable it goto Internet Options > General > Tabs > Settings > [check] Enable Quick Tabs (Ctrl+Q) > [restart IE]).

    Thank you for reading our comments! 🙂

  222. Why bother showing us this if you want to kill desktop??

    Ah, ok, this is you getting ready for windows 9 already?

    When METRO is killed? (BY US)?


    #in before METRO FIASCO

  223. @Mad_Win_7_user

    Metro won't be killed… it's been propagating in Zune/Xbox/WindowsPhone since 2006…

    they do need to stop thinking about specs, and data and logic, and just stare at the damn thing for an hour, and think about anything that annoys them. and whatever annoys them, or makes their mood get all sad (the dull purple wallpaper behind the start screen,) then they should fix it.

  224. @@Drewfus

    "Are you high or something or you don't belong to technological field to ask such ignorant questions? Or are you deliberately trolling?"

    I just wanted to let you know that you aren't the only one wondering this.

  225. @BumbleBritches57: I tried a similar experiment like the one you suggested and here are my findings:

    I looked at the new task manager for a minute, I fall in love with it and I cannot wait to have this and other similar improvements on my desktop. It makes my life easier and it is pretty too.

    Then I looked at the Metro UI Start Menu and I got nauseous.

    So even though Metro has its applications (my Windows Phone 7 makes me happy the way it looks) they are giving a bad reputation to all their other platforms because of their persistence on useless applications like the Start Menu for the desktop platform.

    For our desktops, what we need is more good work from people like Ryan and less silly research on better paradigms than Windows. If there was anything better we would be using it already.

  226. Something wonderful, at last…

  227. Excelent Work with Task manager but Windows need a new Management Console and "REGEDIT" 😀

  228. [Advice]

    1. Besides clicking the menu,I hope I can click a button to pause the refurbishing in the Task Manager.

    2. I suggest that different columns should have different colors.

  229. @Waseem says:

    Hats off to New Taskmanager!!!! Really Great Work!!!! Metro is adjustable more or less…

  230. Urban says:

    Im just wondering what he did to make Outlook use 94% CPU


  231. AndyCadley says:

    @Drewfus: What you're suggesting is, of course, the WinRT model for process management lifecycle whereby the OS is entirely responsible for managing if and when a process is killed and applications *have* to be written in a way that they continuously persist settings and data because they have to survive being killed with little or no warning. It'd be great if all Win32 apps followed a similar model and then process management could be entirely the job of the OS. As it is, that's not the case and there are still some Win32 apps that are doing useful work despite the fact they don't pump window messages often enough (and thus appear 'not responding') so alas we aren't really in a world where arbitrarily killing hung processes is a safe option. Yet.

    @WindowsVista567: Processes don't have any say in whether or not they respond to the End Process buttton, they're just terminated. However the operating system won't kill them if they're currently executing code in kernel mode, because killing a process inside an OS function – which might therefore hold system wide locks or be updating internal data structures – could destabilize the whole system. The application will quit when the thread leaves kernel mode, but obviously if something has caused it to get stuck there then you see the seemingly 'unkillable' problem.

    @Ryan Haveson: Your team are doing a great job and it's always interesting to see the thought process and research behind these sort of changes. For example, pretty much everyone would anecdotely suggest that the main use of Task Manager is to kill processes, but it's interesting to see that you put actual research into confirming this. As we have seen many times before, what anecdotely seems 'right' is often not the case!

  232. @AndyCadley says:

    As opposed to Win32's: XXXapp Stops Working dialog, if the Metro app hangs there is no such notification. The only thing you can do is to open the Task Manager and kill the process and reopen the app. I too believe that this behavior is confined to developer preview and they would come up with some intuitive way for Metro app that follows a lousy path. Also, even if there is some code running in kernel mode in a separate thread, OS offers the app with closing event so it can wrap up the threads and persist its settings/data. If the app is closed from Task Manager by pressing End Task on Applications tab, the closing event is still fired with TaskManagerClosing flag. If you close it from processes tab, it closes immediately like in case of power loss. It all depends upon the strength and weaknesses of application architecture how you manage threads and handle the critical scenarios.

  233. r360 says:

    anyway you still need to click on "more details" because it is incredibly slow to close an application through the simple view of task manager. equally, you need to click on the processes tabs to close your aplications

  234. Great Article! Good to know that you improved Taks Manager. Altough I don't like the design, I really like the functionality. As an ITPRO I currently use Sysinternals Procmon. The new Task Manager in W8 includes many features that Procmon offers. A step in the right direction. Altough I was hoping to see Procmon as a Task Manager replacement in the next Version of Windows… 🙂 Maybe the server Version? Christian

  235. "The most noticeable difference in the new processes tab is the new heat map, which represents different values with color."

    Different values or different *ranges* of values? Regardless, i can't determine what these values or ranges are. Where is the key? Incredibly, this is deemed irrelevant because the so-called heat map "allows you to find the hot spot instantly without needing to read numbers or understand concepts or specific units." The what now? "…without needing to read numbers or understand concepts or specific units". I had to read it twice because the first time i couldn't believe it. Is this a serious program or a toy?

    One problem with that – the heat map "allows you to find the (?) hot spot" – so i guess you do need to understand one concept, but without a key, or any reference point of any kind, i (some user) don't know what a 'hot spot' is! Does 'hot spot' refer to a process that is:

    1. Very busy and that i should leave alone?

    2. Caught in a loop and requires terminating?

    3. Exceeds my personal expectations of resource usage?

    4. Exceeds Microsoft's expectations of resource usage?

    WTF does it mean? I can't determine the definition of 'hot spot', either from reading this post, or using the TM itself, or searching the web (including The Elder Geek). I can only conclude that the definition of 'hot spot' is to be determined *by the user*, possibly based on personal expectations (and btw, i got my expectations from reading The Elder Geek – recommended).

    "Our telemetry data told us that it was very common for users to go to the process tab, sort by CPU or memory utilization, and then look for applications consuming more resources than expected." Ok, so presumably these 'expectations' are now redundant, because the cool heat map "allows you to monitor anomalies across multiple resources (network, disk, memory, and CPU utilization) all at the same time…" So the heat map indicates anomalies? You mean like; slightly-anomalous, moderately-anomalous, very-anomalous and so anomalous your-computer-appears-hung-anomalous? Oh, that's right – 'anomalie' is just another concept i don't need to understand!

    So having come to the new Task Manager without any knowledge of the relevant concepts or units involved, and without any interest in reading the multitude of numbers displayed (which to the user is just noise), it is nonetheless deciphered by the user that the colored bits must be a graded indicator of resource use per process, and that orange in particular means "too much resources are being used", and, intervention is required. Unlikely. The problem is, the user is given no means of determining what hue indicates what degree of resource-use-anomalie. To make matters worse, even if the user does have some understanding of how the colors relate to anomalous resource use, Task Manager provides no basis for the user to determine what should be done about this (let alone why this should be the users problem at all), except for the ludicrous 'search the web' functionality.

  236. Lee says:

    @someone and others like you. Why don't you even acknowledge when your concern is addressed? Is that what you were looking for as a power user?

    @r360, read the comment from someone and multiple replies from MSFT people ^above^

    If your concern is addressed, drop the acknowledgement and don't leave it as open ended.

  237. @Drewfus says:

    you are an obvious troll now GTFOH!

  238. lovethecritics says:


    I just love, love, love how you can get to the core of the matter.

    Pretty is as pretty does and most times pretty is simply pretty dumb.

    MS, give beginners more power, but please give real power tools to the people that know what to do with them.  Those users are important too.

  239. Tony says:

    "I just love, love, love how you can get to the core of the matter."

    Are you kidding me? Drewfus, is not a power user at all. He don't have any idea what he is talking about and nobody else can understand WTF is his problem. Not to mention, lovethecritics or Drewfus is a same person.

  240. Stevo says:

    When are you going to put a search field with instant result. This way I can just type few letter and it will show all result having those letter inside. Also, search in the description of the application and maybe in the all other field too (compagnie, …)

  241. @Drewfus

    honestly, your bickering is becoming a nuisance. During the discourse about the Metro Design you at least tried to find valid points to support your arguments. But how can someone go on about something as minor as the word "hot spot" for so long?

    Your whole last post was completely unnecessary. I would very much appreciate it if you could contribute with constructive criticism instead of running down everything that MS does.

    @Ryan Haveson

    This new Task Manager is so much better than the old one. I value its simplicity with the fiewer details as much as the whole lot of information presented at a glance with the more details version.

    Great work!

  242. xo says:

    The new task manager is a superb improvement in every way!

  243. Keep up the great work Microsoft. I wish you guys could do a post about tablets. The minimum requirements, and how Windows 8 is built for them. I can't wait to see a Windows 8 tablet.

  244. David S. says:

    Task manager with Disk Usage on the first Processes screen? WINNING!

    We all know the bottleneck of most PC these days are the hard drive usage. So most slow-down happens when there's usage chocking the bandwidth on your spinning drive. Being able to quick glance which 1 using ur hd most?

    Pure win.


  245. fdk says:

    i like windows8 but i use deskPc so i don't like metro, i luv start menu in windows 7

  246. have a question about file sharing says:

    im using the developer preview and i love the search and file picker apps that MS has made however, i have a separate drive where i keep all my movies, tv show, music, and pictures and the search app cant find any of them because they are in another drive in this case drive F. the search parameters are confined to drive C how do i solve this?????

  247. filteringmuch says:

    Dear Microsoft, we will find a way to get the old start menu back one way or another, if you give us an official option to do so you can at least pretend that you are listening to your customers. Remember the people who actually buy and use Windows? Not the developers developers developers who can't wait to start selling useless javascript apps through your new start screen to the clueless people who live on Facebook. We the desktop users who buy and use your software don't want a full screen start menu obscuring our desktop, we want our start menu just the way it was in Windows7. 99% of desktop users don't have a touchscreen monitor and this number won't change significantly in the next 3 years. Give us the interface we want or Windows8 will be the new Vista.

  248. Stefan says:

    I read a survey made among long time Windows users in Sweden about which operatingsystem they would like to use in the future if they could choose. Guess what – it was XP. Most readers own comment said that if Windows 8 is shipped with the Metro UI they will stay with their XP. Most comments said that Windows 8 is far less productive than XP and that the MetroUI will sink Microsoft for good. Many wondered if a three years old kid have designed Windows 8 ? Especially that BSOD's ? LOL ! I could only find two positive comments about Windows 8….even Vista got better reviews before its release !!!

  249. Matt says:

    The extra details and categorisation are good, the hide-details-by-default behaviour is fundamentally retarded. The people who use task manager (expert users) know where things are, and what they're using it for. They don't need it dumbed down.

  250. Aggie says:

    You know after playing for a few days WIN8 is great and the little tool that allows me to switchoff metro is better and then switch it on.  A work a day user does not need metro getting in the way.

    you have trouble getting people off XP , getting them off Windows 7 on WIN8 is going to be a nightmare n the work world.

  251. sekhar padikkal says:

    it would be actually good if we also see cpu tutilization/ram usage in fewer options window… As we usually close applications not just by looking the "not responding status" but also the memory leaking ones / 100% cpu utilising ones

  252. Like the functionality of it, but like my previous grip…it needs to LOOK more Metro, as does the rest of Aero. I hope you guys are working on a way to Metrofiy legacy Windows. Its too much of a jump from Metro to Areo to the point that you feel you are using 2 completely different OSes.

  253. Whyllee says:

    I believe adding "search" ability in process tab is super useful.  One thing i did all the time is to type the first charactor in the list of processes so that I can jump to the process starting with that char.  This feature seems gone from the new process tab.

  254. @TimoTim

    I totally agree with you! Getting the desktop experience to feel more Metro like (even if its mostly grafics), might greatly improve the experience.

  255. Evil Overlord says:

    Changes to the task manager look great.  However, I hope they also address the frequent circumstance when the computer is unresponsive, yet the task manager shows no heavy use of CPU or memory.  Very frustrating.

  256. README says:

    @Microsoft, please read the comments from Evil Overload and Xero and reply if the current task manager is capable of addressing these issues?

  257. GregH says:

    @Aggie @Stefan – I disagree, any XP user should upgrade to Windows 7 and if they haven’t then they are not savvy computer users. I will upgrade my business to Windows 8 at general availability, ‘Start’ is a step in the right direction and ‘Task Manager’ changes are welcome.

  258. @GregH: All the savvy computer users I have talked with in my workplace have upgraded to Windows 7 already, they love the new Task Manager of Windows 8, but the new Start Menu is something they will never move to (as far as the desktop is concerned) because they find it counter productive.

    Maybe before you jump to any conclusions you would like to ask people in your workplace to test the “new paradigm” and see what they find. Then feel free to share your results with us, I will be interested to know what they think and what type of task they perform with their computers (if it is not confidential information).

  259. Bull Gates says:

    OK, classic desktop as default but…….. to see all programs it switches to tiles interface?????

  260. Finally some tweak for most used app in windows 🙂 it will be easier to kill all apps that crash thanks ^^

  261. @GregH

    "‘Start’ is a step in the right direction and ‘Task Manager’ changes are welcome"

    Who are savvy or not, suppose that's a question in determine up to each one on their own.

    Don't be so sure on Windows 7, much hanging on the specific task.

    Reminded me suddenly of the discussion in here and the improvements of the Task manager.

    I hope all of you understand these changes in the post won't show anything of all this for those who

    take decision in switching off Metro Start-screen ?

    Correct, we talking of the new TM.exe in this thread where we running Metro Start screen.

    In case someone believe this Task manager may show up when not using Metro….

    That's Wrong hypothesis….Hallelujah for the old taskmgr.exe that's ain't touched.

  262. Mark Devanney says:

    This might be a little off topic but is there any plans to reduce the size of the winsxs folder? My personal laptop running Windows 7 for the last two years at one stage had a winsxs folder of over 35gb's. The only way to reduce it is to do a clean reinstall.

    Our work computers are just as bad but we arent allowed to reformat them so we are stuck with a loss of over 35gb's and rising.

    I only ask because I plan on getting a Windows 8 hybrid like the Asus eee pad or transformer and these will more than likely have small hard drives of about 128 to 250gbs SSD's with the emphasis on the cloud, and losing 20 to 30 gbs from this will be quite a lot.

    Loving Windows 8 Developer Preview so far though!

  263. I second that motion, there NEEDS to be some command line tool to remove deprecated packages from the Servicing Store…

  264. Even though is not related, changing the UI is similar to changing the way an individual organizes his/her table or desk. The office designer will say (in his view considering cost, statistics etc) “most users place their stapler and stationary on the right if their right handed”, the scientist will say “it recommended that you use both you both hands for regular tasks as to train both brain halves and for brain health”, the individual user will say “I like in my drawer”.

    The metro UI does have some highlights in some areas but miss a lot of other points, Human-Computer Interaction studies are fragmented (some do not consider or go into detail user-hand position or the input device efficiency). What we have at the moment is keyboard, mouse and pen for productivity and touch to use just for input not multiple inputs as it possible with keyboard, mouse and pen (if ever possible have scroll, right and lift click then it will more productive similar to paper, desk and pen office days). Touch requires one hand since the other is holding the device, therefore to increase the number of inputs using touch the user must redefine input settings every time then reset them afterwards but in mouse and keyboard the user has both hands and can set and input at the same time (e.g crt-click). Case of pen (if ever possible that you redefine pen as describe above) it can input and set at the same instance using one hand therefore more efficient than just a finger. Its matter of 8 fingers (keyboard keys and mouse buttons) versus 1-2 fingers (touch other 5 hold the device) versus 3 fingers (adding scroll, right and left on the pen), in all case voice has been excluded.

    Another argument against the metro UI stems from the fact that the new metro UI does not follow 2 of the 13 principles of display design (Christopher Wickens) even though fits law does to some extent validate some points on your side. No 5. Similarity causes confusion. The live text on tiles, solid colors etc. No. 13. Principle of consistency. Having two UI classic and metro.

    This just my opinion and input, accept for the UI, every thing else is pointed upwards.

  265. @AndyCadley: Thanks for the reply.

    "What you're suggesting is, of course, the WinRT model for process management lifecycle whereby the OS is entirely responsible for managing if and when a process is killed and applications *have* to be written in a way that they continuously persist settings and data because they have to survive being killed with little or no warning."

    Why are you so sure i'm referring implicitly to a particular technology? I'm actually asserting a principle: The user should always get some response in some reasonable timeframe whenever they trigger any UI element. I'm not interested in this context as to what the specific solution is, nor am i trying to lay blame (as interpreted by @Xero). So if the user clicks 'x' to close window, they *must* get a response (within 10 seconds), either from the process that created the window, or, after the timeout period, from the OS (presumably to offer to destroy the window/kill the process). I made no comment about data persistence, and the comments i made about Windows services were obviously not code for anything relating to WinRT. I made several other comments regarding the demarcation of responsibilies for process management between OS and user. A lot of comments to this post are about congratulating Microsoft for building a better mousetrap. I'm not questioning instead why there are mice in the house in the first place – i'm asking whose job it is to catch them. It's a simple point that i think you overread a bit.

    @lovethecritics: Thanks for the praise. Much appreciated.

    "MS, give beginners more power, but please give real power tools to the people that know what to do with them."

    It's a fair comment, but let me make these additional points.

    1. How do users know what tools are for 'beginners' and what are for those that know (or think they know) what to do with them? Your pretty much assuming also that users know what skill category they fall into. There are all sorts of delimmas with this.

    2. Division of computers users into two distinct groups – 'power users' and, whatever term you prefer for the others (powerless?), is a dangerous dichotomy. For example, i know many users who i would classify as competent, who are quite familiar with Task Manager. What is this intermediate group going to make of the heat map? This is a point being missed by people who say "i get it, what's the problem?" The problem is that your not very good at seeing things from the PoV of others (or even comprehending when a comment is made from others PoV).

    3. The post itself seems confused about which type of user each TM view is aimed at : "A key issue we intended to address was how we could add all of the interesting new functionality without overwhelming users. To solve this, we pivoted around a "More/Fewer details" button similar to the new copy file dialog model." However, the user who presses 'More details' is not going to be overwhelmed anyway, because the heat map takes care of just about everything. The bottom line seems to be: The default view is for less competent users, and the details view (thanks to the heat map) is for users who aren't comfortable with tables of numbers, units, or any of the concepts involved.

  266. Even though is not related, changing the UI is similar to changing the way an individual organizes his/her table or desk. The office designer will say (in his view considering cost, statistics etc) “most users place their stapler and stationary on the right if their right handed”, the scientist will say “it recommended that you use both you both hands for regular tasks as to train both brain halves and for brain health”, the individual user will say “I like in my drawer”.

    The metro UI does have some highlights in some areas but miss a lot of other points, Human-Computer Interaction studies are fragmented (some do not consider or go into detail user-hand position or the input device efficiency). What we have at the moment is keyboard, mouse and pen for productivity and touch to use just for input not multiple inputs as it possible with keyboard, mouse and pen (if ever possible have scroll, right and lift click then it will more productive similar to paper, desk and pen office days). Touch requires one hand since the other is holding the device, therefore to increase the number of inputs using touch the user must redefine input settings every time then reset them afterwards but in mouse and keyboard the user has both hands and can set and input at the same time (e.g crt-click). Case of pen (if ever possible that you redefine pen as describe above) it can input and set at the same instance using one hand therefore more efficient than just a finger. Its matter of 8 fingers (keyboard keys and mouse buttons) versus 1-2 fingers (touch other 5 hold the device) versus 3 fingers (adding scroll, right and left on the pen), in all case voice has been excluded.

    Another argument against the metro UI stems from the fact that the new metro UI does not follow 2 of the 13 principles of display design (Christopher Wickens) even though fits law does to some extent validate some points on your side. No 5. Similarity causes confusion. The live text on tiles, solid colors etc. No. 13. Principle of consistency. Having two UI classic and metro.

    This just my opinion and input, accept for the UI, every thing else is pointed upwards.

  267. Stefan says:

    @GregH 16 Oct 2011 2:04 AM:

    Why should people upgrade from XP to any later Windows version when XP still is the most stable operatingsystem where still very old software can be run without any problems and XP still is the most productive Windows version today ?

    I have Vista, but it takes too many resources and too much crap run by default. I run XP with network and have only a few services running. I guess XP use less than 200 megabytes of ram, while Vista takes far more, same goes for Windows 7. Most of the resources used in Vista, Windows 7 are not necassary at all.

    Vista with SP2 is quite ok, Windows 7 completely fail to deliver what i want in an operatingsystem….buggy, buggy, buggy….

    I don't throw away old working hardware either. If an operatingsystem can't be run properly on some older hardware it not worth its name. We don't have endless resources on this planet….

    2nd try to add this comment

  268. Suggestions for improvements:

    1. Windows own (known trusted CRUCIAL) processes should be marked as GREEN (should NOT be stopped / Windows locked processes that would crash system)

    2. Non Windows processes (not so trusworthy) marked as YELLOW (can be stopped WITHOUT CRASHING SYSTEM)


    4. Sysinternals process explorer type optional view / button – with complete tree structure for source of each process launched (even better than sysinternals process explorer)

  269. Stefan says:

    It is kind of fun to see how some people seem to believe that all other people love Windows 7….and it is still an amusement to see how some suck up to the Windows 8 team no matter what crappy ideas they have. LOL !

  270. @Win5000

    Your idea is quite interesting but windows alone cannot verify which processes are known to be untrustworthy and which are trustworthy.

  271. @Stefan: I don’t know what specific problems you have with Windows 7 maybe the applications you are running have issues with the OS. So maybe you should upgrade them or run them in compatibility mode, or if nothing else works, then yes I agree with you, run them on XP systems.

    Overall Windows XP was a good operating system but it is a bit dated. The hardware and the market seem to be moving away from it already. Have a look at what people think of Windows XP in relation to Windows 7 here:

    I accept though that if you have some very old hardware you better stick with the OS it came with or even better XP with the latest service pack. When it comes to newer hardware though Windows 7 (and Window 8) from the core OS perspective have a lot of improvements to make use of it.

    What is the point of having 16GB of memory in my desktop PC if Windows ignores most of it when my applications are not using all of it? I want the operating system to be making use of my memory and multi-core processors to improve the user experience. I don’t want an operating system like Windows XP that goes and hides in the corner trying not to be noticed. You go for a coffee break and Windows XP swaps everything to the page file for no apparent reason.

    Actually Windows 7 makes such good use of the memory for caching (especially the file system) that all my machines feel faster and more responsive. I stopped buying expensive RAID controllers with cache for my desktops after installing Windows 7.

    One think though that I do like in XP is that all the options were in the right place more or less. Vista tried to “simplify” things by taking multi-tab properties of various components and spreading them left and right in the system, sometimes hiding them so well I needed to search for minutes to find them. Windows 7 corrected some of this silliness and now the desktop makes more sense again.

    The new Task Manager is a great improvement from a usability perspective because it makes it clear that there are more things that affect your system performance than just CPU or memory. And also it presents all this information quite efficiently, that is a step forward (unlike the new Start Menu which is 10 steps backwards on the desktop computers).

  272. @Drewfus

    "[…] the details view (thanks to the heat map) is for users who aren't comfortable with tables of numbers, units, or any of the concepts involved."

    The heat map draws attention to particularly high values of resource usage. Therefore it will help even experienced users to more quickly find the processes they are looking for, thus speeding up workflow.

    In the old version a pro user had to scan a long list of numbers until he fond the highest values. Now he will immediately spot the "troublemakers".

    I think that's a huge improvement!

  273. Persuadable says:

    The Win8 team might want to take this opportunity to go read everything Dennis Ritchie ever wrote.  Who knows, it might help.

  274. Please give soluto kind of program to identify which kind of services slowing down the booting process.

  275. Abhay says:

    Power users need a way to make the detailed view the default view. Just a simple check box in options maybe.

  276. Harsh Sharma says:

    The concept is good. It will make it easier for novices as well as experts.

  277. Please give some information about windows 8 history vault.

  278. pmoiteiro says:

    I've had that for a while now. I call it a Mac.

  279. Does defragmentation not required on new protogon file system.

  280. Please make a totally different file system for SSDs.

  281. Tony says:

    @pmoiteiro, Mac doesnt have performance monitor, heat map and much more. What were you smoking lately?

    @Abhay, once you click more options and close the task manager. Next time it will persist the state.

    @plot-paris, don't worry about lamers.

  282. Wolf says:

    @ MS

    could we make the Details Tab The *First Tab* and the default window in TM.exe. and is taskmrg.exe going to stay as well?

    When working with app the details tap is the only tab I use

  283. Wolf says:


    One last thing can u bring back the Ctrl-alt-del to taskmager and not bring up the Full Screen Option menu-thingy.

    most the time when a app hangs and I get to that menu the entire system uselly crashes at that point. I miss the old windows 98/xp (not in Domain) of ctrl-alt-del Stright to taskmager.

    do to that I acutally pin Taskmanager to my superbar so I can aboved the Full screen menu thingy all together.

  284. Stefan says:

    @mil_ 16 Oct 2011 8:40 AM#

    I have stated several times here in discussions that my old software work very poor in Windows 7. I still don't think i should have to run XP virtual in another operatingsystem, when that compability should be there already, because Windows 7 is still a Windows.

    I do also have issues with both my Nvidia card (a 2011 card) and my soundcard (Creative X-Fi). Both work very well in previous Windows versions, as far back as Windows 2000, while they do stink in Windows 7. Have tried tons of drivers without found any working perfectly in Windows 7. Even tweaked drivers have been tested but failed for some reason. In 2000, XP, Vista i have no issues at all.

    As a music producer it is very important that i can use my software 100%. I can't do that in Windows 7 !

    Windows 7 SP1 are still a very buggy operatingsystem.

    Wouldn't You make thumbs down if some software You really need working didn't work properly in a new operatingsystem ? I would, and do !

    Once more i have to say there are so many unnecassary services, hidden or non-hidden, that start by default in Windows Vista and Windows 7 that i can puke… Why ? My XP takes less than 200 megabyte ram (of the 2 gigabyte i there are), while Vista and Windows 7 take far more. It is not the way to save resources at all.

    I have been using Windows since NT4 so i know a lot about Windows, but Windows Vista and 7 is really big jokes in my eyes. Windows 8 i can only laugh about. Windows 8 is ridicilous ! Tablet operatingsystem on a desktop….tsss…

    2nd try to add this !

  285. @Stefan says:

    Windows 7 SP1 is buggy? R u out of your mind?

  286. :-) says:

    Stefan : "Windows 7 SP1 are still a very buggy operatingsystem."


  287. Robbo says:

    @Drewfus – I agree with you. I don't see why Windows can't manage some of this basic "task" management itself. It would certainly make it easier for all the non-techie types out there.

  288. No, I'm not a troll. i personally don't think these modest improvements are enough. Microsoft needs to deprecate Win32, abandon devolpment on it, and focus on WinRT, that way everyone, even lumbering giants like Office and Photoshop will be rewritten for WinRT, f they don't deprecate it, Win32 will continue to be the target platform forever. kind of like how they need to NOT make an x86 version of win 8. x64 has been out forever, and it's time to jump to an x64 only world. by stratling both x86 and x64 windows has doubled in size, and devs are only writing apps for x86. it's been time to move to x64 only since 2009. not to mention all the optimizations Microsoft could make to the windows code if it was compiled fr SSE3 x64 only.

  289. and the thing is, WinRT is being cooked right now, make sure you do everything right, and plan for it's expansion. it's going to be around for a very long time. don't mess it up by not including memory and other low level functions into the OS itself. we all know that the future will be in apps standard users can write themselves. it's time to make that possible by including memory and cpu and general hardware functions into an OS level. not an app level.

  290. And get rid of GDI while you're at it. that's insane. the entire point of using DirectX is how much faster and all the more functions it has. force everyone on to DirectX./ ugh. it's sickening how flexible you people are. you have 14 copies of the exact same thing with a slight tweak. oh, lets have a scripting language, no lets have a dozen! ridiculous.

  291. Oh, One more thing

    You guys REALLY MUST fix your filesystem naming problem. you must adopt a Unix like filesystem naming convention.

  292. Missing Use Case says:

    When I help people I often open up the task manager's networking tab just to see what speed the network interfaces have auto-negotiated too. With this new design is that no longer possible even it detailed view?

  293. The new task bar is awesome…I like new concepts and ideas. And I am happy that I don't have to upgrade my hardware to use windows 8. There are some features, I would like to see in windows 8.

    There has to be option to change logon screen pictures without use of software like tune up utilities.

    It would be better if windows media player would support video formats like 3gp, flv, and other formats that video players like VLC and TVC can easily support.

    There should not be another annoying Windows 8 Compatibility Center.

    There has to be option to password protect individual folder. Bit Locker Drive Encryption is not that good to protects user data as it takes very long time for encryption and if its unlocked, we have to restart the system to lock it again.

    And I would like to know if there would be task bar in metro interface or not. And will metro apps always run in full screen or can we open them in new windows, minimize, re-size and maximize?

  294. @Wolf

    Ctrl + Shift + Esc will bring you directly to the Task Manager 😉

  295. Mayuresh says:

    Awsome work!!!!! Something more descriptive then the usual one. Helps understanding more….

  296. Great job!

    Microsoft is doing a great job at trying to improve Windows, implementing small (or not so small)  changes in the functionality like this one. At the end of the day, users can be more productive if the OS can save time for them, such savings can only be obtained from a myriad of little time-savers like this new task manager.

    Nice-to-have: search/filter functionality in the processes / services lists.

    As a system administrator I often find myself skimming through the services list in order to find the service I need to stop/restart. Even if the list can be sorted, I don't always remember the exact name of the service, especially when administering servers in different languages. For instance, try to find the time service (NTP) if you don't remember it's exact name in SPANISH… "Hora de windows". A simple search would save precious minutes of my time!

  297. Ian Trevor says:

    Very good job.

    I agree with one suggestion above about showing which files are opened/busy by which process.

    What about identifying which disk(s) and which network(s) each process utilizes?

    Also, I would like if there are "totals" for disk write, disk read, network receive, network send (total since last Windows start – even better if you add hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, etc. with graphs and everything).

    While I'm at this – please put back the "network activity" indicator (XP style – blinking on activity) in the tray icon area. Most desktops/laptops have LEDs for HDD activity, but very few have for network activity (this can be suggested to your hardware partners too).

  298. I'm Windows says:

    What have you done to improve the consistency and coherence of my registry?…/windows-8-registry-140910

  299. @BumbleBritches57 says:

    You mean the new filesystem for windows8…/Protogon

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  301. Stefan says:

    Okay, i gave Windows 7 Professional x64 a last try, and it didn't deliver. Tasksheduler stopped working (service did run), event viewer refused to start after SP1 install. Exactly as my previous experience. Every time some service(s) stop to work in Windows 7. I have been around on the net to seek solutions, none did work. So Windows 7 is the crappiest crap on Earth ! Doubt Windows 8 will be any better….

  302. IT Tech says:

    Clicking 'More Details' each time is going to very, very annoying…

  303. @IT Tech

    thats strange. For me it is always remembering which setting I used last. So if I switch to the "More Details" view, close the Task Manager and open it later, it will still show more details…

    Does it not remember the setting on your machine?

  304. windows8fan says:

    What is BING MSBeta as shown in the browser windows for the search on fast user switching.

  305. windows8fan says:

    What is BING MSBeta as shown in the browser windows for the search on fast user switching.

  306. Stephen Kellett says:

    Wow, after the dreadful (and unwanted) changes to the Start Menu, this is a welcome breath of fresh air.

    You've got this right. I even checked that you keep me in More Details view once I've selected that and closed Task Manager and re-opened Task Manager. Good job.

    Which makes me even more puzzled why you have created the horrible disjointed Start Screen user experience when you are capable of doing work like this which actually works. Very, very confused by the disjunction between this work and Start Screen.

  307. @IT Tech

    Agreed. One serious shortcoming of the More/Fewer details split is that the simpler view tells me if an app is 'not responding', but the detailed view does not. Therefore the detailed view is not a true super-set of the default view, thus requiring me to look at *both* views to get an overall picture of process status, slowing down workflow. Some of the more enthusiastic supporters of the new Task Manager seem to be missing this point.

  308. Does Windows crashes be for use an unoriginal Windows? Why Microsoft not prevent? is Windows 8 same story too?

  309. chen says:

    Awesome, really like the disk usage.

    I was thinking, why not incorporate task manager into Alt+Tab, so you can see cpu usage under each program thumbnail or something. Now there seems to be a bit of double functionality, especially with the new user friendly design of task manager.

    More features from process explorer would also be welcome.

  310. Windows 8 Enthusiast says:

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  311. Jim Better says:

    Why has CONTROL ALT DEL been changed in the latest Windows versions? In the past it displayed TASK MANAGER immediately!!! Now it is CONTROL SHIFT ESC, WHY?????? Put it back as it was in the past, for power users……

    Or tell us WHY this change, at least… it's a silly change.

    Invert commands so CTRL ALT DEL shows Task Manager, and CTRL SHIFT ESC will show that silly green screen with choices…

  312. @Stefan says:

    I user TaskScheduler with no problem. I do all kind of heavy tasks on windows 7; from software development to hardware interfacing and 3d rendering on Max and Maya you name it. I don't know why you are the only unfortunate person in this world. I guess you are using Mac not windows7. Windows 7 is the greatest general purpose OS till date. You lose.

  313. Jim Better says:

    Ctrl-Alt-Del is EASIER to remember, please really invert those commands, do it and see, people will appreciate that.

    Trust me.

    Ctrl-shift-Esc is more difficult to remember.

    Power users and old time users are used to Ctrl-Alt-Del to call Task Manager directly.

    Or at least give an OPTION somewhere (Control Panel maybe) in Windows 8 to invert those commands, it's easy to do, I think.

  314. @Jim Better says:

    Ctrl+Shift+Esc bring taskmanager as happen in Vista and 7.

    Ctrl+Alt+Del brings a screen with option to Lock Computer, Switch User, Log off, Change Password and Task Manager as happen in Vista and 7.

  315. Jim Better says:

    That's what I'm saying, I want the CONTRARY.

    Before Vista it has always been the contrary, people using computers for 10 or 20 years or more will appreciate the inversion, get it or not?

    Thank you.

  316. @Jim Better says:

    Okay I understand now. Your suggestion stinks. Just saying.

  317. Mark says:

    S'funny i've been using servers and virtual machine so long that i've stopped using keystrokes to popup task manager; simple right click on the taskbar and click on task manager. As a bonus it can be done with one hand.

  318. Dano says:

    Very nice. Looks like this will simplify the tasks I normally perform under task manager quite a bit. The web search integration will be especially handy!

  319. Tom says:

    I know that you mentioned settings and customizations will be saved, but will the new task manager remember to always show the task manager in Detailed View once I click it the first time?

  320. D says:

    This new task manager = filled with win. 🙂

  321. sassoong says:

    +1 to Steven Bone – Do "friendly" names only apply to signed and verified processes, or is there a way to show those? The new task manager is fantastic but I still need Process Explorer until this is in there.

  322. Alvaro says:

    Nice work people! The new TM makes easier the two task most people us to kill misbehaving apps or resources hog's. But your telemetry data is missing is the reason behind this need…. 99.99% of the time you want to kill a process you first try click the red cross in the corner, so the logical thing would be to prompt a dialog like "The app you're trying to close is not responding, Do you want to force it?"…. decreasing the number of times you have to open another program to close a misbehaving one…

    Even without this the new it's an overall improvement and a step in the right direction. (Excuse my English)

  323. Frank says:

    Very nice task manager, do you want to force it? this option will be stay in the manager?

  324. Skipper says:

    What Task Manager has been missing for So Long is a way to see who has a resource or handle open!!

    For example how many times have you tried to delete a file, just to get the annoying message that it is use, but by what/whom/where/etc – this is where you break out Process Explorer and do a handle search to find the offending half dead program that still holds the resource.

    IMHO this really should be an easy task to find out who has the reource and should be exposed both in explorer (i.e. File is in use by..<insert program/user/etc>. ) and in Task Manager (Search for Handle) for more advanced searches.

  325. Jon Austenaa says:

    Please reduce the whitespace between rows, or include an option to do so. I guess it is to accomodate touch-input users, but i'd rather you not bloat away the screen space like that. I don't buy a geforce 470 just so the developers can waste away its performance.

    Windows 8 is becoming a "do less – see less" experience.

  326. Jim Better says:

    I want "Ctrl-Alt-Del" to invoke Task Manager.

    Don't leave things coming from "Windows Vista failure" inside Windows 8.

    Ctrl-Shift-Esc should invoke the choice page.

  327. Soe Tun says:

    Please please please give us the option to have the DETAILED view as the DEFAULT.

    For Power Users like me, it is NOT just the Foreground Applications we need to kill.

    It is those pesky ***BACKGROUND Tasks*** we need to kill when it is utilizing 100% CPU and the UI is all locked up.

  328. Nishi says:


    Do not change  "Ctrl-Alt-Del"  & Ctrl-Shift-Esc. Please leave it as in Win7. It's impossible to press Ctrl-Alt- Del using one hand, I haven't use it many years… and I hope to never use it again.

  329. @Soe Tun

    Once you open the Detailed view once, you will never have to click the button to open it again on that account. Once you click the More Details button and close Task Manager, it will reopen in the Detailed view automatically.

  330. @Nishi

    After reading your post I had to try it… pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del with one hand. 🙂

    From now on I will never do it two-handed again. What a great way to start the day…

  331. Octagon says:

    Your methodology is fundamentally flawed. Collecting data on what users are doing is important and enlightening beyond any doubt, but that data represents what the majority, that is by definition the least competent part, of the users are doing. Using it that straightforward to determine what should be done is a mistake and one of the sources of never ending dissatisfaction with Microsoft.

    There is also huge difference between routine usage and usage in an emergency situations which is masked 100% by your statistics.

    I noticed the changes you describe and the reaction was "beautified as expected". The only really fine addition I immediately discovered was that the unacceptable windows 7 task manager trick of disappearing and reappearing when switching to "processes from all users" has gone away.

    There are two other equally unacceptable tricks the fate of which is still unknown to me: "I cannot stop the process because it awaits input from you" (and some times just cannot stop for some unknown reason) and Task Manager unresponsive when something misbehaves.

    BTW, the most valuable (to me) addition to Task Manager in Windows 7 was the easier match between services and processes.

  332. Xero says:

    Amen to what @Nishi said about the one handed solution, which is — in fact — more user-friendly. Besides, it's being long enough since Vista, that people are accustomed to this shortcut.

    For other people who want detailed view to be the default view, scrollup and see the comment of @someone (on 13 Oct 2011 12:18 PM) and replies from @Jon DeVaan [Microsoft] (on 13 Oct 2011 12:50 PM), @Ilana Smith – MSFT (on 13 Oct 2011 1:42 PM) and @Steven Sinofsky (on 13 Oct 2011 1:46 PM).

    The state retention feature in TaskManager is valid in Windows 7 as well as Windows Vista. For an instance; you open the TaskManager, switch to Networking tab and close it. Next time when you open it (even after restarting your system), it opens with the networking tab active.

  333. WindowsVista567 says:

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  334. Jim Better says:

    Ok, give an option to switch the combos and it will be ok for all people.

    New users starting from Windows Vista want Ctrl-shift-esc, old time users are used to Ctrl-Alt-Canc to invoke Task Manager.

    Thank you Windows 8 Team.

    P.S.: if there won't be such an option I will NOT buy Windows 8.

  335. Xero says:

    @Jim Better, I doubt if there is any option to swap these shortcuts. But if one perceive your idea at generic level, then I guess we are reckoning a utility which let the user change all windows shortcuts and define custom ones (ofcourse with  Restore to defaults button). While some third party utility can do that, it would be supercool if this kindda customization utility is provided natively in system's control panel. 😎

  336. Stefan says:

    I hope You in a post will explain why You add something like MultimediaClassScheduler that makes gaming lag on both Vista and Windows 7 ? Why didn't You tweak it for the gamers as default ? Why is it that things You think is neat in an OS isn't neat to the ones using it ? With that i mean that we, the users, ALWAYS, have to tweak our Windows to get better performance.

    When Vista still only where on the paper there were promises that there would be no more dependencies between services. Still in Windows 7 You can crash big chunks of Windows if You shut down "wrong" services. I guess Windows 8 is the same, i didn't sacrifice much time on it when i had it installed… After all these years with services, why haven't it evolved at all ?

    The registry shouldn't be there either. I think protected conf files for each service and program would be better. Guess that is the way Linux works. The registry altered in a wrong way can make Windows stop boot at all. This haven't evolved at all either.

  337. Tony says:

    @Stefan, playing with GRUB and Gnome/KDE settings can prevent Ubuntu/Fedora to boot properly as well. But recovering from that kind of situations, both in Windows and Linux is very possible (u better give a shot to Windows7 recovery mode). Also, regedit can only be accessed by privileged users and is recommended for poweruser and system admins. It throws a warning that could cause system setting disrupted what else you want? Yes you can mess with your Windows system via regedit and Linux systems via configurations, but if something goes wrong it will be your fault.

    P.S. Both registry and config have pros and cons…/was-the-windows-registry-a-good-idea.html

  338. Tony says:

    @Stefan, playing with GRUB and Gnome/KDE settings can prevent Ubuntu/Fedora to boot properly as well. But recovering from that kind of situations, both in Windows and Linux is very possible (u better give a shot to Windows7 recovery mode). Also, regedit can only be accessed by privileged users and is recommended for poweruser and system admins. It throws a warning that could cause system setting disrupted what else you want? Yes you can mess with your Windows system via regedit and Linux systems via configurations, but if something goes wrong it will be your fault.

    P.S. Both registry and config have pros and cons…/was-the-windows-registry-a-good-idea.html

  339. Tommo says:

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  340. Alvaro says:

    @Stefan: we might be a little Off Topic but you're right:

    Gaming is an issue in Windows, if you want performance, you have to search the web for 'fixes', make registry hacks, play a bit with msconfig, services.msc  and so on… these days even AV software has a gaming mode where you can disable background scans, updates and notifications why can Windows have the same?

    @Tony The windows registry is still better than having tons of ini files spread around your PC, but have to say that doesn't seem to have changed or improved much in all this time…

    @In Control of Your PC team  What about the windows registry?? Any improvements coming?? How do people use it and how can be used more efficiently? Maybe adding "user friendly names" with the binary and hex values?? or just putting a ribbon UI on it …. just kidding

    Alvaro 🙂               Again excuse my english

  341. anas hashmi says:

    please put an  X   button next to each application.

  342. anas hashmi says:

    Majority of users are using it to kill tasks but they don't kill on the applications tab.  They kill it on the processors tab.

  343. I would like to make an important suggestion, in my view, to further improve Windows 8: like windows 8 is being developed for PC and tablets, why not put the notebook mouse with various gestures and movements to navigate, anger left and right as if you were playing on a tablet? It is a suggestion. The competitor has and is very successful.

  344. magicalclick says:

    Can we have a "AI HDD Reporter"? Most of time when my computer is slow, it is doing something funky with HDD. But, when I look at HDD report from Resource Monitor, it fluctuate too fast to draw conclusions. I want a simple report says, "Hey, this K apps/processes are using a lot of your HDD time" and save this in a temporary history file so I can spend more time reading it.

  345. Angry (like grr!!) but not a troll says:

    @magicalclick, this happens to me when I open Zune. I guess Zune makes the computer busy by indexing then re-indexing then re-re-indexing everything ???? Or is it that Zune is implemented with hardware accelerated graphics whereas I don't have a graphics card just a standard VGA????

    Please fix the file system and accelerated graphics thing whatever it is.. it makes windows 7 stuck for minutes with Corei3 processor. Dammm !!!!!!

  346. Sad but true says:

    Apple and Google sucks like justin beiber!

    Microsoft rules like Metallica!

    M 4 Microsoft, Metallica & NothingElseMatters. m/m/

  347. It seems some my comment don't get here… (moderation?!!!)

    "Disk (header) – 0%" – how do you calculate it? what's the 100%-value, is it in MB/s?

    "Disk (process) – 0 MB/s". Why MB/s? I think IO operations/second will be better.

    AFAIK modern HDD have ~100 IOPS. Main reason of sluggish computer behavior (from my experience) is when this limit is exceeded e.g.

    1. music player building search index,

    2. sharing music collection over LAN,

    3. heavy swapping, e.g. when some text editor opens huge text file. I use 64-bit text editor which makes such swapping nearly endless;

    4. compiling large project

    So, please, show IOPS instead of MB/s or add "Disk Activity / Response Time (ms)" column as minimum.

  348. i think they r telling us to through our mouse and big desktops in garbage how am i supposed to scroll to end of metro screen with a mouse if i have around 200 applications…oh yea there is a little arrow at bottom left and right which if u keep clicking makes u scroll what a bullshit……and u can only have two apps technically on one screen on metro UI which is also not effective..if microsoft is making it keep it for tablets if this comes on pc am better of on windows 7….@kojirodensetsu i think they r telling us to through our mouse and big desktops in garbage how am i supposed to scroll to end of metro screen with a mouse if i have around 200 applications…oh yea there is a little arrow at bottom left and right which if u keep clicking makes u scroll what a bullshit……and u can only have two apps technically on one screen on metro UI which is also not effective..if microsoft is making it keep it for tablets if this comes on pc am better of on windows 7….

  349. @WindowsVista567 (gray letters)

    Aren't you ready to give this up yet? It's NOT POSSIBLE to preorder Windows 8 when there isn't even a beta! I've never seen Gears of War 3, I'm not about to start playing any game like this, so don't try to confuse the issue with these insane, preposterous comments.

  350. Anonymous says:

    @WindowsVista567 (not the real one)

    Aren't you ready to give this up yet? You're not fooling anyone with this crazy scheme of yours. Believe it or not, some of us are smart enough to tell the difference between you and the real WindowsVista567. Word has gotten out that someone is posting fake comments on this blog.

  351. @Ryan

    Metro-style IE will be suspended when it is in the background.

  352. husain says:

    Well done guys!

    Have been waiting to see something logical since years, now it will be fun to do end task after going into this much analysis.

    Think "Not Responding" is good enough.

  353. Nick says:

    Just wanted to say that as an above average (but not IT professional) Windows user, I've really been enjoying all these posts. There's a lot of niggling going on in these comment threads but as far as I'm concerned all these improvements seem like exactly that – improvements, and well-reasoned ones too. I'm excited to follow the development of Windows 8 going forward. Good work, everyone.

  354. Mohamed Elghamry says:

    It is really perfect , Keep going 🙂

  355. Nish says:

    @Ben Srour [MSFT]

    I noticed Metro style IE is suspended, but this produces an undesired effect in sites such as Pandora where a user wants to stream background music while doing other tasks, but IE gets suspended, pausing the music. Would this be addressed?

  356. @Nish

    We definitely support background audio. You will be able to listen to audio in the background while doing other things in the Metro experience in the apps that support it. For example, you could have a Pandora app or other streaming music app that plays music in the background for you while you do other things.

  357. Lucky Guru says:

    First problem in windows developer preview is, it does not have the option to close the metro style apps and the other problem is, it takes so much time to shut the system down. Very very bad os ever

    Lucky Guru

    New Delhi, India

  358. I am Windows says:

    Please virtualizes the Windows registry by default for all applications. Do not mess around on a single register. I ask you a post on this blog will be improved and how my registry. People expect that the Register is removed. I ask that dividentolo has improved in a register for each application or better with a layered architecture. Waiting for an answer I thank you for your work.

  359. Sabhareesh_Rs says:

    The looks are getting too older, that the quote gets proved "Microsoft has got another Windows95"

    i.e; The looks are like Windows <Me